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General => FXPAK (SD2SNES) => Topic started by: ot4ku on May 31, 2014, 07:00 PM

Title: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: ot4ku on May 31, 2014, 07:00 PM: Hello,
sorry to ask maybe a stupid question, but i cant find the SD2SNES on the "product" page.
http://krikzz.com/index.php?route=common/home

So why would i need the SD2SNES version compared to the Super Everdrive v2 (maybe someone can explain the difference to v1 to). I read on the web the SD2SNES can also play games that need a special chip, but what does that mean?
Like the FX chip? so i cant run roms that use the FX chip on the normal Super Everdrive v2?
Or is this mor elike a homebrew thing with custom hack roms?

Thanks for explaining in advance!
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: strider1911 on May 31, 2014, 09:12 PM: Someone should make a sticky thread about this because this question is always being asked, here is what I know:

V1 = First model, can't get it anymore and there is no reason you should try. The card supports NO Enhancement Chips BUT DSP1*. You need to install this chip and some other components from a game that has it such as Mario Kart or Ballz 3D or order it as an option.

V2 = Same as V1, plus:
don't need to reset the console in order to save. That is why the battery is there.
A bit faster loading time.
Supports cheats.
Easier to install DSP1 chip, less components required, you only need the DSP1 chip itself.

SD2SNES = Different firmware and hardware. This unit is smarter and more powerful. This works differently and supports all kinds of Enhancement Chips, but not all - because of the developer, which isn't Krikzz (he only makes them) didn't implement them yet. You DO NOT need to install any chip yourself.
Instant loading.
Different interface.
The supported chips are, at the moment:
BS-X memory map / Satellaview base unit registers (clock)
DSP1 / 1b
DSP2
DSP3
DSP4
ST-010
Cx4
MSU1 - This is not a real chip made by Nintendo and is used only for homebrew.
S-RTC
OBC1

Many people always ask which game has which chip. I'm putting an end to this with this link:
LOOK AT THE BUTTOM FOR A COMPLETE CHART
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_NES_enhancement_chips

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: ot4ku on May 31, 2014, 09:34 PM: Thanks this is a lot of help! So its (in some way) similar to the Mega Everdrive that is superior to the normal Everdrive MD v3 right? So with a Mega Everdrive & SD2SNES you get the best ther eis at the moment for 16bit. And i guess for N64 its maybe best to wait for the already announced ED64v3.

Because I only have PAL consoles i still need a hardware mod to play the US games with 60hz i guess, right?
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: strider1911 on May 31, 2014, 10:08 PM: Quote from: ot4ku on May 31, 2014, 09:34 PM
Thanks this is a lot of help! So its (in some way) similar to the Mega Everdrive that is superior to the normal Everdrive MD v3 right? So with a Mega Everdrive & SD2SNES you get the best ther eis at the moment for 16bit. And i guess for N64 its maybe best to wait for the already announced ED64v3.

Because I only have PAL consoles i still need a hardware mod to play the US games with 60hz i guess, right?

SD2SNES and Mega Everdrive are considered by most to be the Ferrari of 16bit flashcarts.
BUT keep in mind that for better or worse SD2SNES is not considered a Krikzz product.

And yes, you need hardware mods for true 60hz. Very easy on a Mega Drive if you use Scart RGB. Also, my recommendation is to get a Super Famicom from Ebay. They are super cheap and act exactly the same as NTSC console as far as the Everdrives are concerned.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: ot4ku on June 01, 2014, 10:31 PM: The problem is i live in PAL region and have the european power connector. So i have to settle with the PAL console. The 50hz/60hz switch costs here 70eur for snes, for genesis/megadrive its even 120 together with the mega cd.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: Paulweeze on June 01, 2014, 10:41 PM: Quote from: ot4ku on June 01, 2014, 10:31 PM
The problem is i live in PAL region and have the european power connector. So i have to settle with the PAL console. The 50hz/60hz switch costs here 70eur for snes, for genesis/megadrive its even 120 together with the mega cd.
Ouch. Try finding one premodded to buy (might be cheaper, at magfest those systems region modded were definatly less than 70 euros and people on some forums sell them even less), a cheaper place to send your system in for modding, or if you are technical, follow a tut to learn how to diy.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: strider1911 on June 02, 2014, 12:50 AM: Quote from: ot4ku on June 01, 2014, 10:31 PM
The problem is i live in PAL region and have the european power connector. So i have to settle with the PAL console. The 50hz/60hz switch costs here 70eur for snes, for genesis/megadrive its even 120 together with the mega cd.

You CAN use a Mega Drive 1 power adapter for both Genesis 1 and Super Famicom! There is no need for a new power adapter! PM me for further assistance.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: goombakid on June 02, 2014, 05:46 AM: Quote from: strider1911 on May 31, 2014, 09:12 PM
Someone should make a sticky thread about this because this question is always being asked, here is what I know:

I thought I did stick one...or was it only in the Super Everdrive forum? Anyway, looks like you're spot on.

[EDIT] https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_oCKw2V6pcxLUdlSVB0WWp1aHM/edit

Comparison chart courtesy of strider1911.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: Johnny23b on June 18, 2014, 11:27 AM: Are there any plans of making a Save State Funktion for SD2SNES?
That would be an interesting Point for me to get one.
Otherwhise I think I would stick with my Super Everdrive v1.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: crabfists on September 16, 2014, 03:04 PM: Can somebody please tell me the differences between the save functionality of SD2SNES and the Super Everdrives?

According to the blurb the SD2SNES has "Automatic near-time SRAM saving to SD Card" whereas Super Everdrive has "SRAM auto backup on SD card". Does this mean the same thing? I presume it is referring to being able to save via a game's save system directly to the card.

From what I have read neither card has actual snapshot/savestate functionality but it _may_ come in the future for SD2SNES. Is this correct?

Thanks!
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: Mattroid on September 16, 2014, 03:43 PM: Neither have save states, but it's possible the SD2SNES might support them one day, though there will likely be issues with that functionality. This has been discussed many times on this forum.

Other than that, in a basic sense, SED saves last save game to battery while all others save to the SD card, while SD2SNES saves to the SD card every few seconds or so. This prevents you from having to hit the reset button to force the save to happen (the battery in the SD2SNES is not used for saves at the moment).

More reading:
SED: http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=1177.msg11969#msg11969
SD2SNES: http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=2101.msg21291#msg21291

So basically, it's arguable that both have similar/same functionality when it comes to saves.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: crabfists on September 17, 2014, 02:53 PM: Thanks for the info Mattroid. :)
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: Erockbrox on December 02, 2014, 11:10 AM: What is the fastest SD card that can be used with the sd2snes?

what about hdxc cards?
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: nuu on December 02, 2014, 02:49 PM: Class 10 works perfectly with msu1 for me.

http://sd2snes.de/blog/card-list
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: goombakid on December 03, 2014, 05:23 AM: From THIS THREAD (http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=2371.0):

Quote from: strider1911 on December 02, 2014, 03:48 PM
THERE IS NO FLASH CART ON THE MARKET THAT SUPPORTS SA-1 OR SUPER FX.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: Fmamarksman on December 03, 2014, 05:13 PM: Something that we all need to know. lol
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: bidou67 on May 15, 2015, 10:21 PM: SD2SNES is the best realy !! I have SD2SNES REV F and work perfetc , the rest on linker is means :-\
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: tic on February 15, 2017, 12:53 PM: V1 have only 200 file límit in a folder and is very slow, specially when you are in a Game with bat, and change to another ,then saving to sd card can take several minutes+ reflasing. I not sure if v2 is more faster. But i buy the sd2nes and i very happy so i probably sell the v1. When i buy It sd2snes not exist.

I tell that because is not write in the first Page info.
Title: Re: SD2SNES, Super Everdrive v1 & Super Everdrive v2 diferences
Post by: Richardragon87 on January 20, 2019, 04:12 AM: Quote from: tic on February 15, 2017, 12:53 PM
V1 have only 200 file límit in a folder and is very slow, specially when you are in a Game with bat, and change to another ,then saving to sd card can take several minutes+ reflasing. I not sure if v2 is more faster. But i buy the sd2nes and i very happy so i probably sell the v1. When i buy It sd2snes not exist.

I tell that because is not write in the first Page info.

I own all versions and I must say V1 was always my favourite one despite the limit there is something nostalgic on seeing kbs load across a green bar, takes me back to the old windows era seeing that each time.

What is weird is the issue the V1 had oddly tied in on the later versions of other everdrive's namely the GB X7 having no file limit but causes the folders to always open up too fast meaning the game inside do not have time to display for a few seconds. This was averted in older versions where the device would freeze for a while in time to load up the folder to display everything properly.