EverDrive Forum

General => EverDrive GB => Topic started by: ninjainspandex on July 29, 2014, 05:10 AM

Title: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: ninjainspandex on July 29, 2014, 05:10 AM
My Everdrive only works on my Gameboy Pocket when the batteries are 100% charged, if it is even just a little bit drained the cart just resets when it tries writing a game to the cart.  At first I thought it was because my Gameboy Pocket was backlit modded, but then today I bought a second GBP for cheap that is unmodded and the issue still persists.  Is it because of the LED in the cart draining too much power?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Paulweeze on July 29, 2014, 05:13 AM
Idk, but gbp's are known not to act well with anything not oem. Nanoloop states that it is not good to use a gbp for it as well. Have you tested it on anything else?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: ninjainspandex on July 29, 2014, 05:17 AM
works flawlessly on my GBC GBA and GBA SP both front lit and backlit.  Don't have a DMG to test it on.  But it seems that the LED is the culprit, the screen gets real dim everytime the LED access light comes on and it seems like when it tries to load a game it is just not enough juice.  I wonder if unsoldering the LED would solve the problem, I'd rather not do it myself.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Paulweeze on July 29, 2014, 05:21 AM
Hmm, thats a good question. If that is the solution for gbp's then others would want to know. Wonder if you could ask retrogate to sell one without one?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on July 29, 2014, 01:05 PM
...it seems like when it tries to load a game it is just not enough juice.  I wonder if unsoldering the LED would solve the problem...

...think about what you're saying for just a moment ;)

My GBP only does that when the batteries are almost dead. Granted, the battery life isn't super great, but it's a small price to pay. I just try not to flash any games while I'm using it.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: ninjainspandex on July 30, 2014, 12:41 AM
But it starts doing this after using a fully charged Duracell NiHM battery after only using it for 5 or 10 minutes.  So generally what I have to do is load the game on my GBA and then put the cart in my Gameboy Pocket. 
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on July 30, 2014, 01:07 PM
Yes, but the LED is not the part of the cart that reads data from the SD card, thus, the LED is not the problem.

Are these batteries new, or have they been recharged numerous times?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: toshineon on August 01, 2014, 01:38 PM
I don't own an Everdrive GB, so I can't verify this, but it's still possible that the LED could be the culprit. Improbable, but not impossible. As far as I understand, the LED only lights up when you flash a game into memory, so it's possible that the current the LED need is just over the limit for the GBP. If this is the case the problem doesn't specifically come from flashing a game, but rather, from the LED lighting up, which would occur during it. I can't say for sure, though, as LED's generally don't draw much power, and there's no way for me to test it. But there are my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: actionless on August 08, 2014, 10:39 PM
You need to use higher power rechargeable batteries for the Gameboy pocket to work best. You can get 1.6v rechargeable. The average rechargeable is only 1.2v which is not enough. The ECGB uses more power than a normal cartridge. Once I changed to 1.6v I had no problems, even with backlit - works like a dream :)
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: zaneiken on August 10, 2014, 12:38 AM
^This.
The other alternative is to use alkalines.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on August 13, 2014, 01:17 PM
You can get 1.6v rechargeable.

I might have to find some of those, these 1.2s only seem to last a few hours.

Haven't kept track of exactly how long they last, but when I only play it at work (about 30 minutes per day) it seems like I'm recharging them at least once a week.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: ApolloBoy on August 18, 2014, 04:53 AM
Just wanted to add that I tried my new Everdrive GB on my unmodded Pocket and it worked fine, no issues whatsoever. Mine however is one of the early systems without a power LED, I wonder if that has to do with it?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on August 19, 2014, 11:29 PM
You can get 1.6v rechargeable.

Where do you find these?

I looked in-store, couldn't find anything...so I checked on Amazon.com, the only rechargeables they had in 1.6v were no-name-brand ones.

Mine however is one of the early systems without a power LED, I wonder if that has to do with it?

So is mine. It's a MiC though, not a MiJ (but I doubt it would make much of a difference).
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: ApolloBoy on August 28, 2014, 08:35 AM
I just tried out my EDGB with my brother's Pocket (which is the newer revision with the power LED), and the screen will briefly go blank when erasing or flashing a game. Perhaps there really is something about the newer GBPs that doesn't sit well with the Everdrive.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: justinwebb on August 28, 2014, 03:27 PM
i have around 25 different gameboys and it works fine no matter if it has an led or not.  Its the batteries not the pocket.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: ApolloBoy on August 28, 2014, 09:26 PM
Its the batteries not the pocket.
Hm, my brother recently changed out the batteries on his...
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: justinwebb on August 29, 2014, 05:45 PM
I dont understand the need for ellipses.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Mattroid on August 29, 2014, 11:57 PM
I dont understand the need for ellipses.
I think he's implying that the batteries are fresh since they were just replaced.

I'd make sure they're "good" batteries - not all batteries are created equal :) Make sure they're fresh Duracell or Energizer, none of that off brand stuff.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: cutterjohn on September 14, 2014, 02:15 AM
I've got to say, that I JUST (almost literally) tried this on my gameboy pocket and it DID NOT work with FRESH ALKALINE batteries.  Gameboy Pocket in question is VERY LIGHTLY used, as in more or less mint condition, and works absolutely peachily with all of my real carts.

Works GREAT on my gbc.

i.e. my guess is that whatever corners Nintendo cut to get to 2 AAA for power just isn't enough for pocket + everdrive.

nope doesnae workies.  Just tried with a different set(2017 exp date PANASONIC) of alkalines and watched contrast drop while doing NOTHING.  Highlighting did NOT work at ALL in game selection, reset after contrast faded to nil.

Sad, but it appears that with basic standard alkalines(or even worse lower voltage rechargeables that the EVGB is NOT going to work on the pocket).

I'd REALLY be interested in finding these supposed 1.6V NiMH rechargeables to try out, as beyond color games I'd REALLY PREFER the pocket.

[EDIT]
Beyond the power problems with the EDGB, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread for the gb IMNHO...
[/EDIT]

[EDIT2]
PANASONIC batt packaging states that they are C-Zn
[/EDIT2]

[EDIT3]
Works in the original GBC(sucky non-backlit SUPER DARK screen version) with just two AA Panasonics...

If I had to guess, I'd say that nintendo cut the gbp back to too close to marginal power reqs for something like the EDGB to work w/o something better...

I'd still REALLY like to see those rechargeables that max at more than c. 1.25V
[/EDIT3]

[EDIT4]
...almost forgot... it looks like on gba that it takes advantage of the gba as the selector highlighting is GREEN v. what looks "black" on my gbc and unless it's my imagination is using a higher res selector screen, i.e. all of the gba screen rather than the cutoff part of the screen that gba usually uses for gb/c games, but I never used the gba much until I got a ds lite as the non-backlit screen was the most egregious design flaw that I'd EVER encountered in my life as the thing was entirely unuseable in all but incredibly brightly lit areas, and I won't go on about all the external lighting options that I tried... i.e. my GBA's even more mint than my gbp other than I didn't even bother boxing it and it got real dusty over the years between trials... (check if it spontaneously committed sepuku...
[/EDIT4]

[EDIT5]
Just for completeness the EVGB is v1.2, gameboy pocket is MGB-001 model. MG105728083 serial #, Made in *SIGH* China.

GBC is made in Japan, CGB-001, and GBA is made in *shudder* China AGB-001
[/EDIT5]
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: actionless on September 16, 2014, 07:17 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291074495244?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291074495244?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I bought these batteries, 1.6v work perfectly with my Gameboy pockets. Mine have also been backlit modded, no problems. Normal 1.2v rechargeables just will not work with pocket and Everdrive GB, too much power needed.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: 16bitSprite on November 08, 2014, 04:39 AM
Just found these online. If they do what they claim they can do it should hopefully fix the power problems. Unlike other Lipol batteries these are capped at 1.5v. Ive  just ordered some. So Ill let you know if they work.
Fingers crossed.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4pc-KENTLI-1-5v-1100mWh-AAA-rechargeable-lithium-battery-4-Port-AA-AAA-charger-/390930933538?pt=AU_Electronics_Batteries_Chargers&hash=item5b054ca722
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: s3phir0th115 on November 09, 2014, 11:36 PM
I wanted to offer my input on this. I also have issues on my Gameboy Pocket.
I literally just did a cap replacement on my Gameboy Pocket just an hour or 2 ago. It behaved marginally better, but not on a consistent basis after a while. Sometimes I can get it to write a game, but it almost never works, and often it takes a couple tries to even get to the everdrive menu.
However, this is with alkalines. I'll be trying others as soon as I can, as I don't doubt that's contributing to the issue.

Edit:
Just purchased some Ultimate Lithium Energizers from Walmart. I tried them out on the pocket and it functions perfectly. Reaches the menu every time, and also is able to write the rom properly every time.

Thus, to me it looks like the answer to this problem is to make sure you're using heavy duty batteries, or the best you can find, and make sure the caps are good. These results are with freshly replaced caps.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: trekeyus on January 25, 2015, 05:20 AM
I just got a Pocket and sure enough it dose not like the everdrive one bit atleast when running on batteries ill need to get some ultra heavy duty rechargeable ones. even when I run it on my ac adapter I still run into the occasional reboot I guess 200ma just isn't enough. I have yet to try flashing a game when running on the ac adapter I have but I have faith it would fail. thankfully my GBC and Gameboy light work flawlessly.
EDIT: My pocket works flawlessly with fresh AAA battery's guess the batteries I was using to test were almost dead. and the 3rd party adapter is not up to spec.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Leopardo on January 29, 2015, 05:04 PM
I got some NiZn batteries from dx.com that work ok-ish. Normal alkaline does not work at all, but these work for about two hours.

I've got a USB line that fits my Pocket but supplies it with 5v instead of 3v, would that be safe to use? Maybe flash, then  take out the line? Also, if I use a GBC or DMG to flash the games and use the Pocket to play them, would the power drain then also be so high?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on January 31, 2015, 01:09 PM
Also, if I use a GBC or DMG to flash the games and use the Pocket to play them, would the power drain then also be so high?

Nope! That's what I do, and it works fine (with regular old rechargables)...though the GBP loses power a little sooner with the EDGB, if you put in an official cart and power it back on, you can get about ten more minutes or so out of it.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Leopardo on February 05, 2015, 11:59 AM
Also, if I use a GBC or DMG to flash the games and use the Pocket to play them, would the power drain then also be so high?

Nope! That's what I do, and it works fine (with regular old rechargables)...though the GBP loses power a little sooner with the EDGB, if you put in an official cart and power it back on, you can get about ten more minutes or so out of it.

Thanks! I'll try it see how my mileage is.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: 16bitSprite on July 17, 2015, 07:23 PM
OK so here is what i found

Backlit MGB (gameboy pocket) running an everdrive GB:

Kent Lii Li-ion batteries - 3hours 15 minutes
Ni-zn                             - 2hours 15 minutes

Substantially better mileage from the Kent Li's. Gotta pay for it though.
I'm sure that this result would vary depending on the resistor you use on the backlight.
Both batteries would run the everdriveGB with no problems even when its flashing to the cart.

Hopefully this helps
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Hexatendo on September 26, 2015, 09:00 PM
Since we are now talking about batteries, does any of you know how much battery life is on a game boy color or a game boy pocket with Energizer ultimate lithium batteries? I have looked all over the internet, but none ever specify what type and brand of batteries!
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: lee4 on September 27, 2015, 02:21 AM
batteries life varies on usage of user

topical non-chargeable batteries should last average about 6 hours
and topical re-chargeable batteries should last average about 3.5 hours
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Hexatendo on September 27, 2015, 03:55 AM
Um, I do not get your statement. Something to add though: Can someone also tell me the battery life when playing Regular Game boy, Game Boy color/Game Boy, and GBC exclusive games?
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Great Hierophant on October 05, 2015, 07:03 AM
I got a GB Pocket today and I had no trouble flashing a game or playing it with my Eneloop AAAs.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: skylar on December 18, 2015, 06:55 PM
got my everdrive today as well and my fav gameboy is the pocket. so far it's working great with duracell industrials (of which i got an unlimited supply trough work, free of charge offcourse :p) i also got a set of eneloop pro's 900mAH but they gave me a bad result out of the box ( they are charging now) i hope it will be better once they are charged cuz even tho it says on the packaging that they are ready to go i could barely flash a rom with it. ill report back in a few days to tell you if either the industrial duracells or the eneloops are better
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: remax on June 23, 2016, 11:50 AM
Just to confirm i had this problem and fixed it by changing my memory card.

Now with a 4Gb Kingstom SD card, i can use my AmazonBasics Rechargeable Batteries, even when a bit low on power, whereas with my previous SD card, even a charger was not powerful enough to flash a game !
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: chattik on December 18, 2016, 02:35 PM
Hi guys,

Just bought the edgb for gb pocket and have the same problems. Do you have any update on the solution? (besides better batteries, and sd card format/ replace).

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: TheShadowRunner on December 20, 2016, 03:34 AM
chattik, you can try this fw:
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3821.0
It's slightly lower on power consumption when flashing roms.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: chattik on December 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Thank you I have already tried this with no luck. I will try with better batteries or the DC adapter. This is a joke though it should be mentioned in the product page that GBP is not supported. Tried it in a GBA SP and works fine by the way.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on December 23, 2016, 03:11 PM
Use a different device to flash the game, then pop the cart into your Pocket, load it up, and press the start button B) That's what I usually do.

I also always keep a spare set of batteries on me, so I can quickly swap when one pair needs to be recharged.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: Asaki on January 03, 2017, 04:37 PM
Another tip, maybe try "uninstalling" the OS update. It's only been a few days, but since installing it, my batteries seem to drain a lot faster than usual.

I'm going to try without it for a couple days and see if I get improvements.


Edit: Nevermind. I think this pair of batteries is just getting old, because I'm not noticing much of a difference.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: matthewwithanm on January 08, 2017, 08:50 AM
I'm seeing this with one of my ROMs on a GBASP ):

Brand new batteries.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: parski on March 24, 2017, 12:35 AM
free of charge offcourse :p
You might want to check out the charged variant of the aforementioned battery.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: kyouki on May 19, 2018, 04:05 AM
First post and major thread necromancy!

Here are my findings on this issue:

I first tried using Everdrive GB with a Game Boy Pocket (Atomic Purple, with power LED) running eneloop pro batteries (930 mAh). The Everdrive would boot up and I could write one game, but from then on I could only go so far as getting the Everdrive GUIā€”could not write any games, and couldn't even boot the game that was already loading in the Everdrive. Switching to AC power didn't help at all actually, though switching to alkaline batteries did (though performance was unstable).

I then got a Game Boy Pocket (Green, without power LED), and it works perfectly even on the eneloop pro batteries.  Everdrive boots up without a problem every single time, and I can then load the game or write a new one without a problem.

One interesting thing I found: running an Everdrive with a Worm Light in the EXT port is basically impossible.  You have to set the contrast to max black and even then the game is barely visible.
Title: Re: Everdrive GB constantly resets on a Gameboy Pocket
Post by: KRIKzz on June 20, 2018, 02:27 AM
ninjainspandex Your troubles could be due sd card. Some sd cards has really high power consumption during read/write operations. GB Pocket has very weak power supply circuit and sd card consumption just overload it