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General => Off Topic => Topic started by: Captain N on July 11, 2012, 09:20 PM

Title: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on July 11, 2012, 09:20 PM
I don't know if this is the right topic for this thread, I hope.

I'm curious to know if there are currently any plans for any future Everdrives and which systems Krikkz are interested in developing for?
Since Krikkz has been so productive there aren't many cartridge based console left, I guess there's the
NES, Atari 2600/Jaguar, NeoGeo, Virtual Boy, Vextrex and the Gameboy

Personally, I would love to see a Gameboy/Color Everdrive since there really isn't any good quality carts out for that system.


**Update**
Just for the heck of it, I made a poll to see which would actually be the most requested Everdrive.

What Everdrive would you like to see next (http://poll.pollcode.com/tbhf1q)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on July 11, 2012, 11:23 PM
a GB classic/color everdrive would be awesome... we can only hope  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: fungames on July 14, 2012, 05:28 PM
Neo Geo Everdrive! Please, please, please!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: gtsamour on July 18, 2012, 08:44 AM
Ahhh, NeoGeo Everdrive would be a dream come true even if it cost a lot BUT its nearly impossible to make.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on July 18, 2012, 11:09 AM
I pretty sure that i will never work over NeoGeo. At least, in next 1-2 years. May be GB/GBC or NES/Famicom. I would like to use new generation of cpld chips, with low power consumption, in case if i will work over gb/gbc cart, but currently hard to buy this chips and they cost a lot
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on July 20, 2012, 03:49 AM
Judging by how eager people were to throw money after the SD2Snes cart even though it had price tag of almost $300 I would say there are tons of people out there who would like to see a GB/GBC flashcart. Esspecially since there aren't really any good alternatives. I have yet to see one that actually supports SD/MicroSD yet.
These two are the only two that I know of and you can only store a few roms (usually around 10-30) on it before it's filled up.
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg289/scaled.php?server=289&filename=gamedoctor9yt.jpg&res=landing)

I would be happy to buy a GB Everdrive even if the price range would be around 200-$250

The NES could work too but I'm just thinking that there is already an alternative out there (PowerPak) So unless the NES Everdrive could bring some new improvements to the table I'd rather have a Gameboy Everdrive.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 21, 2012, 04:46 AM
I'm sure a NES everdrive could improve on the powerpak.  The powerpak has a lot of mappers that don't work 100% right.  Some mappers on the nes powerpak don't work at all.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: edq on July 22, 2012, 09:16 PM
I am completely on the side of a gbc everdrive over a nes everdrive or any other for these reasons first off there is not a good gbc flash cart out there yet unlike the nes which has the powerpak. a gbc flash cart i think would also be easier to make compared to a nes flash cart because nes use a large amount of different mappers. it would be nice if the gbc everdrive ran on gba's also and could play gbc and gb games i would like it to use micro sd's. 2gb and under would be great. just some Suggestions.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on August 18, 2012, 03:16 PM
i would go for nes over gb/gbc. i still ain't coem across a nes flashcart without any problems with some mappers. i would love to see a nes flash cart with full mapper support and maybe save state option. full mapper support and almost 100 percent rom compatibility is the main thing. save states would be a bonus. be nice if it worked with front and top loader nes versions aswell.
 second to nes i would love to see a jaguar flash cart. seems like there has never been a proper flash cart for this console. i own a jaguar and a lot of games but sd flash cart would make life much easier and also i could get some of those holy grail type rare games finally lol (atari karts, breakout 2000).   i was gonna purchase a skunkboard sometime last year until i discovered there was no eeprom chip int he skunkboard for saving games. that put me right off tbh. made the cart almost a waste of time for a serious gamer like myself :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: mabby on September 03, 2012, 12:26 AM
Whats stopping Krizz from developing for CD based systems - 3DO / Saturn / Dreamcast would be awsome - I know there is a Russian chap who has an IDE for 3D0 so its doable
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on September 03, 2012, 03:20 PM
Whats stopping Krizz from developing for CD based systems - 3DO / Saturn / Dreamcast would be awsome - I know there is a Russian chap who has an IDE for 3D0 so its doable

1: CD drive replacements aren't just "plug'n'play" you need to find someone to solder them in.

2: The russian thing could very well not work on all cd based consoles.

3: I talked to chilly willy and tiido about doing such a thing, they said it's way more complicated than a cartridge loader.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on September 03, 2012, 06:49 PM
the most important reasons:
1) lack of information about hardware
2) I am not a big fan of cd based systems
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on September 04, 2012, 03:48 AM
the most important reasons:
1) lack of information about hardware
2) I am not a big fan of cd based systems

I'd love a fpga drive replacement for the pc engine cd and the sega cd.  I honestly wish I knew how to make something like that, but I don't.  Talking to chilly willy and tiido it sounds extremely difficult and I can believe that.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: hhdavid on September 10, 2012, 08:42 PM
There is another option for GB/GBC: EMS GAME BOY SMART CART.
You can read a review here: http://www.gameboycarts.com/2009/12/ems-game-boy-smart-card-64-mb/ (http://www.gameboycarts.com/2009/12/ems-game-boy-smart-card-64-mb/)
The problem I have found is that only one state can be saved, losing previous saved games.

If I can make a wish, this would be a NES EverDrive with improvements over Powerpak.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on September 11, 2012, 05:19 AM
What about atari jaguar?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on September 11, 2012, 01:34 PM
trouble is i would like to see all of these carts. nes, gba, gbc/gb and atari jaguar. in order i would like to see them made i would have to go for 1st nes 2nd atari jaguar 3rd gba and lastly gb/gbc.
 i wonder if it's possible to have a all in one gba/gbc/gb cart. i currently play gba on my ds with the m3 expansion but i would like to get a gamecube gameboy player and play gba games on the big screen. trouble is the old flash solutions are buggy with dodgy compatibility. the m3 perfect cart was supposed to be awesome but it's very rare now and sd solutions with the rull romset and user friendly menu like the everdrive carts would be a massive improvement over these old carts.
 plain and simple reason for nes being my first choice is the powerpak not having enough mapper compatibility. also for jaguar 2nd cos there is no sd card type jaguar cart available or even a cart with save support. skunkboard seemed ok but no save chip and only one game loaded on the cart per time it don't seem user friendly and designed more for developers.
 maybe one day krikkz will get around to starting some these projects if there is enough demand.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: hhdavid on September 11, 2012, 05:05 PM
A Cheap Nes or NeoGeoPocket would be nice.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on September 12, 2012, 06:28 AM
I would love to see a Neo Geo AES cart but I can understand how difficult and expensive it would be just to create it.  Two PCB boards that talk to each other would be needed.   I'd love to see it much smaller than an actual Neo Geo cart.  Oh well, I'm dreaming.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 15, 2012, 04:55 PM
What about atari jaguar?

please make one lol is it at all possible igor and cost effective?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: sagemonkey on September 17, 2012, 05:56 AM
I'd really like to see a Wonderswan and/or Neo Geo Pocket flash cart. Wonderswan flash carts are like hen's teeth and while there is a Neo Geo Pocket one now available its nowhere near as impressive in its functionality as Krikzz's carts. I'd love one with a microSD, not having to load a game separately each time you want to play. A Wonderswan cart would be fantastic as a quick search on RomHacking shows a lot more development on the Wonderswan than NGP, it had barely any english games, so fan translations are the only real way to enjoy the console, and without an available flash cart thats impossible on the actual console, which is a shame in my opinion.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: bscard on September 25, 2012, 12:48 PM
for me, an in-dream gb card is:

all rom compatible
microsd card to store rom and save file
no bettary needed
(if technically possible) compatible with gba roms, that means a gbc card - looking everdrive with a gb/gbc/gba card - inside , when plugin  gba it can play gba games :P

everdrive nes is announced, waiting for gb serie everdrive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on September 25, 2012, 03:00 PM
i was rooting around in my attic yesterday and came across my super gameboy for snes. would be cool to play b/w gb games on this again with a gb flashcart. super gameboy wont play gb colour thou. i think the gameboy player for gamecube plays all gameboy formats thou.
 wonder if gb will be next after the nes project :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 25, 2012, 04:32 PM
i wanna jag everdrive  :'(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on September 25, 2012, 04:57 PM
jaguar everdrive is the next logical step.

there's no cart available which does not need to be connected to a pc

 and new development tools by team reboot.

so lots of homebrews on the horizon
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 25, 2012, 05:01 PM
well 1st...the nes everdrive! :D yayyy then (fingers crossed) jag everdrive...im gaggin for one, my jag has been in its box for about a year lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: stallion on September 25, 2012, 09:24 PM
I would love to see a NES Everdrive! After getting my first Everdrive cart a few days ago for the N64 i am in love! And would love to see a NES version.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 26, 2012, 11:55 AM
I would love to see a NES Everdrive! After getting my first Everdrive cart a few days ago for the N64 i am in love! And would love to see a NES version.

dude...krikzz is working on one :D

What is it could be? Probably something 8bit with lots of mappers (:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img21/446/img2066xp.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/img2066xp.jpg/)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on October 02, 2012, 01:34 AM
nes is cool , but i would rather see first an sd cart for a system that does not offer that solution yet (jaguar  ;D)
then famicom
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 02, 2012, 02:14 PM
I'd like to see krikzz add support for the mega everdrive to recreate the master system fm audio.  Then again look at the amazing response I never got:

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=29.0 (http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=29.0)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 03, 2012, 09:55 AM
I'd like to see krikzz add support for the mega everdrive to recreate the master system fm audio.  Then again look at the amazing response I never got:

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=29.0 (http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=29.0)

NEO Myth MD 3in1 flash cart actually has the FM chip on board ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 04, 2012, 02:03 AM
Oh that I wasn't aware of.  The nes powerpak reproduces all kinds of audio hardware including the vrc6.  Something tells me it would be possible to fpga the master system fm hardware.

I'd like to see krikzz add support for the mega everdrive to recreate the master system fm audio.  Then again look at the amazing response I never got:

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=29.0 (http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=29.0)

NEO Myth MD 3in1 flash cart actually has the FM chip on board ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: akumajo on October 05, 2012, 12:36 PM
Hi

I would like to see this :
#8/16 BITS
- NES/FAMICOM Everdrive (incoming !, huge works if you want 100% compatibility, evil mappers  ;D)
- Wonderswan / Wonderswan Color Everdrive (a big exclusivity)
- GAME BOY / GAME BOY COLOR Everdrive (I think that Everdrive could be better than those old flashcarts...)
- GAME BOY ADVANCE Everdrive (why not ? :p)

And some specials :
- PlayStation CD-Emulator Everdrive
- Saturn CD-Emulator Everdrive
- PCEngine CD-Emulator Everdrive
- PC-FX CD Everdrive

Because lens are horribles and someone need to do this stuff ...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 06, 2012, 12:48 AM
atari jaguar MORE than anything!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: modsbox on October 06, 2012, 04:34 AM
First of all, I'm buying a NES/Famicom Everdrive day 1.  That would be awesome.  I've got a Super Everdrive, Everdrive MD, and Turbo Everdrive already and would love to have as high a quality NES solution.

All this said, Krikzz you really should reconsider the Neo Geo AES Everdrive idea.  The games are _insanely_ expensive.  Some of the best cost more than $1000.  I've owned a few Neo Geos and love the console, as do many.  In the end the cost of the AES games (or an MVS to AES converter + MVS games) is just so high it's extremely difficult to justify the expense.  If I could buy an AES everdrive, even for $300 or more I would do it in a heartbeat.  To just be able to play all the Metal Slug games on real hardware without spending thousands would be worth it.  Add to that all the rare Neo Geo AES games that are worth $1000+ and the purchase is a no brainer.  I know it may seem like not that many people would buy it, but the price that people would be willing to pay for it could be a lot higher than you'd think.  Even if you didn't sell that many, people would pay a lot.

All your stuff is great, whether you do Neo Geo or not, seriously... it's awesome.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 06, 2012, 11:47 PM
actually how many AES games are there? probably about 100-150...half of them japanese, the console itself is ridiculously expensive...why would krikzz make a everdrive for it?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on October 07, 2012, 11:53 AM
Also i must say that neogeo cart is pretty complex thing. May be i will make a toy for jag, but i pretty sure that i will never do something for neogeo
actually how many AES games are there? probably about 100-150...half of them japanese, the console itself is ridiculously expensive...?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 07, 2012, 02:13 PM
Also i must say that neogeo cart is pretty complex thing. May be i will make a toy for jag, but i pretty sure that i will never do something for neogeo
actually how many AES games are there? probably about 100-150...half of them japanese, the console itself is ridiculously expensive...?

jag would be brilliant :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: modsbox on October 07, 2012, 07:36 PM
actually how many AES games are there? probably about 100-150...half of them japanese, the console itself is ridiculously expensive...why would krikzz make a everdrive for it?

Um, I understand what you're saying.  But then to go on to say a Jaguar everdrive would be brilliant?  Jag has very few games total, and extremely few good games overall as well.  For $200 I can buy a Jag and all the best games.  Meanwhile if I knew there was an Everdrive for it, I could buy a Neo Geo AES console for $250 -- it's not that expensive -- but the games are insanely expensive.  The main thing is that the Neo has TONS of amazing games-- Samurai Shodown series, Metal Slug series, King of Fighters series, Baseball Stars, Last Blade 1 & 2, Sengoku series... It's seriously no contest.  And even a high-priced flash cart, say $250-300 would be a no brainer purchase to anyone who owns a Neo Geo system.  Just one of the very best games costs that.  On top of that, there is a huge community of Neo Geo fans that spend a _lot_ of money on the system and games.  Just take a look at this:

http://www.neostore.com/category-s/3.htm

Some of the most common games only cost $50-100 on ebay, but a lot of the best cost thousands even in poor condition.  People gut common (cheap) games and replace the chips with burned chips from more expensive games, then _sell them as reproductions_ for hundreds.  It's crazy!  I'd buy a $300 flash cart for Neo Geo in a heartbeat, as would anyone else who owns the system.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on October 07, 2012, 09:49 PM
I vote GBA. Hopefully with support for MicroSDHC up to 16GB, so we can just grab a full rom set and have it fit on the cart.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 08, 2012, 12:14 AM
@modsbox, maybe they are common as muck in the US unfortunately neo geo aes consoles are way too expensive and rare in the UK i wished i could buy a console at $250 dollars LOL!!! they fetch around £400 in the UK ($650) id rather have a jag everdrive anyday before aes..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on October 08, 2012, 05:36 AM
Jag has very few games total, and extremely few good games overall as well.  For $200 I can buy a Jag and all the best games.

$200 would get you a used Jag with two or possibly three average games. Good Jag games are expensive. Maybe you are thinking of the Jag market five years ago, but today it's rather expensive to collect for.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 08, 2012, 12:57 PM
cruel lol i have a wiiU on pre order
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 09, 2012, 08:34 AM
hmm only 4MB re-writable...BUT...the jagware flash cart :D

http://www.jagware.org/index.php?s=bfb5703a58c546d1cbf0c9a3b1a543c4&showtopic=841&st=0&p=13159&#entry13159

upcoming in the following months apparently
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 09, 2012, 08:10 PM
did u see the pic of it, imagine "everdrive" written on it plus a SD card slot...dreamy, making a flash cart for jag might be kinda hard, cmon krikzz get ya thinkin cap on lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 09, 2012, 08:22 PM
whilst were on the subject of long projects...check this out, dr neo from neoflash has been working on a nes flash cart since 2008!!! i have his N64 myth cart which is brilliant, just wonder why its taking so long...

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,4928.0.html
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on October 09, 2012, 10:25 PM
whilst were on the subject of long projects...check this out, dr neo from neoflash has been working on a nes flash cart since 2008!!! i have his N64 myth cart which is brilliant, just wonder why its taking so long...

http://www.neoflash.com/forum/index.php/topic,4928.0.html

Because it's hard to find people who have both skills in using CPLD/FPGA chips AND are also intimately familiar with the hardware of the console in question. The NES is particularly bad as it has DOZENS of mappers you need to implement in hardware. Dr.neo actually asked me if I was interested in taking up the design of the NES Myth, but I had to decline as I'm not that familiar with the NES. As a matter of fact, I don't even own a NES or clone. I applaud KRIKzz for taking on such a daunting task.

I can partly understand why KRIKzz would work on NES before Jaguar... the Jaguar is too easy! For folks into hardware design, the NES would be more "fun" to work on with all it's mappers and such. A Jaguar Everdrive would be downright boring.  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 09, 2012, 10:29 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO chilly willy u cant say jag is borin!!!!! :( lol if the jag is easy then design it ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on October 10, 2012, 02:18 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO chilly willy u cant say jag is borin!!!!! :( lol if the jag is easy then design it ;)

Actually, I DID sketch out a design using a MACH CPLD and a GBA connector to make a Myth-like adapter for the Jaguar. When I get a little spare cash, I plan to do a layout and get a few boards made... assuming there's still not a better Jaguar cart out by that time.

See, that's all the Myth carts are - adapters that allow the use of GBA flash carts on other consoles. GBA flash carts are pretty fast, pretty big, and a word wide, all of which makes them usable on many consoles. While Jaguar carts are all 32 bits wide, the cart port and boot loader handle 16 or even 8 bit wide carts. All current Jaguar flash carts are 16 bits wide.

That's about the most simple design I can think of for a Jaguar cart - nothing but a CPLD and a connector (and misc passive devices like resistors and caps). No flash roms, no ram, no power regulators... the menu flash in the GBA flash cart would handle booting, and then you can either select games in the flash for flash-only GBA carts, or load from an SD card or whatever on GBA carts with card interfaces. The Neo2-SD has menu flash, game flash, 16MBytes of psram you can use for loaded data, and an SD card interface. That was what I planned for use with my Myth-like design.

I imagine the if KRIKzz made a Jaguar Everdrive, it would be a CPLD, a 16-bit wide flashrom, an SD card socket, and possibly a USB chip (since he has at least the option for those on most of his Everdrives). That's still a really simple design. There's no complicated mappers - the "standard" for Jaguar carts is just a plain 6 MBytes of rom at a set location. If you wanted to mimic the Skunkboard, you would also allow for two banks of 4 MBytes for two separate 4 MB games, or 4 MBytes of fixed rom with the other 2 MByte space being a bank into the rest of the flash.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 10, 2012, 10:49 AM
sounds promising! and yh i love my N64 myth cart i have neo 2 pro with that :) im suprised no one has made a jag cart yet after reading that, i deffo want one if anybody makes one il b first in the que, my jag is in its box gaggin to come out n play lol iv only got 3 games on it tho :( mind ya its 3 of the best (doom, wolf 3D, AVP) so....
krikzz is working on the NES and CW is working on the JAG ;) the retro gaming scene is lookin very good indeed :D just think CW avin ur name along side krikzz on a JAG ED....exciting times

EDIT: sorry got overexcited lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on October 10, 2012, 02:35 PM
firstly thanks krikzz for considering a jaguar flashcart. i been wanting a proper flash solution for the jag since forever. some the games are rare and expensive. i got most the good ones but atari karts breakout 2000 and some others are rare as hell and prices are silly when they pop up for sale. i hate playing my original karts because some of them are rare and i would like to keep them in as good condition as possible and store them in the cases. a fully functional flash cart with save ability and sd support for the jag has been overlooked. forget the vaporware projects i been waiting on them for ages and the skunkboard don't support saves and can only store up to two games a time i think :(
 krikzz would do a good job on a jag everdrive imo. ok the jag ain't the greatest console of all time but it still has it's fair share of enthusiats and it ain't going to be as complex as a neo geo flash cart either. we already got everdrives for most the classic consoles. nes on the way (happy days). maybe jag, gba, gb/gbc then for me that would be everything worthwhile covered in the everdrive department. there are some others i guess inc the neo geo but that project would be agony and expensive as hell or so i've heard.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on October 16, 2012, 03:03 AM
JAGUAR ED is needed

would buy nes everdrive, but no rush, since i have powerpack ...  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 16, 2012, 05:40 AM
JAGUAR ED is needed

would buy nes everdrive, but no rush, since i have powerpack ...  ;)

Speak for yourself I've been thirsty for something better than the powerpak for a while.  People stopped fixing up mappers for the powerpak a while ago and they're certainly not perfected.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 16, 2012, 07:29 AM
I also would like to see an Ever drive for these:

1. Atari Jaguar - unless you got a Skunkboard from a preorder, or rare official Atari Flash cart (those have no onscreen menu), you are out of luck.

2. Gameboy Mono/Color - the 64mb limit on current carts is way too small.

3. Sega Dreamcast - the SD adapter has very limited retail game support, and the BBA solution is expensive and slow.

4. Neo Geo - some say it is nearly impossible, and maybe I am just dreaming of this. Some games are too rare and/or expensive, and multi carts often have games with bugs.



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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on October 16, 2012, 05:25 PM
I also would like to see an Ever drive for these:

1. Atari Jaguar - unless you got a Skunkboard from a preorder, or rare official Atari Flash cart (those have no onscreen menu), you are out of luck.

2. Gameboy Mono/Color - the 64mb limit on current carts is way too small.

3. Sega Dreamcast - the SD adapter has very limited retail game support, and the BBA solution is expensive and slow.

4. Neo Geo - some say it is nearly impossible, and maybe I am just dreaming of this. Some games are too rare and/or expensive, and multi carts often have games with bugs.



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have skunkboard, never really used it, command line and computer attached? WTF?

that's why we need JAGUAR ED !!

nes powerpack is good enough for 90% of the people,
there's no perfect flashcart


Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on October 16, 2012, 06:54 PM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Krikzz decides to make GBA and GB(C) flash carts in the future.  The currently available flash carts are far from optimal and I'm certain there's a huge market for both.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on October 16, 2012, 09:43 PM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Krikzz decides to make GBA and GB(C) flash carts in the future.  The currently available flash carts are far from optimal and I'm certain there's a huge market for both.

Quoted for truth  8)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on October 16, 2012, 10:52 PM
few months ago i made a prototype for gb/gbc, but total power consumption was twice more than with original cart, so i decide not touch gameboy and switch to nes. i should learn how to make power effective solutions, plus i dont really like gameboy  system (:
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on October 16, 2012, 11:10 PM
few months ago i made a prototype for gb/gbc, but total power consumption was twice more than with original cart, so i decide not touch gameboy and switch to nes. i should learn how to make power effective solutions, plus i dont really like gameboy  system (:

blasphemy!  ;D ;D ;D

but seriously, I do hope you make one and you return to the project (you must!), it would be nice to have a good solution for the GB too... all other carts are giving emphasis to those musician software and not games , it's a terrible shame!  >:(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on October 17, 2012, 02:38 AM
Yeah the Gameboy is OK but nothing really exciting.

Neo Geo = Dream Everdrive that will probably never exist.

CD systems that could load from a solid-state device would be awesome indeed, not sure if it's plausible, though.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on October 17, 2012, 02:53 AM
i'm sure people wouldnt mind being tied to a power source to play gb/gbc flashcart. is the same with the ds if i have the screen up bright battery dies quick so i spend a lot of time with the power lead in. tbh if a gb/gbc flashcart was produced i was planning on playing gb/gbc games on a gamecube gameboy player and my super gameboy for snes anyhow. the old gameboy systems and the type of batteries they used were crappy for batteries dying fast from my memories of the systems.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on October 17, 2012, 11:35 AM
yeah I'm in the same boat as butfluffy , I currently play gb games through the super-gameboy, I can't really stand nowdays to use my old gb  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 17, 2012, 11:33 PM
iv saw loads of GB/GBA flash carts about, i have 2 (ezflash4 which i use for GBA and supercard miniSD which i use for GB/GBC) i dont think a everdrive will benefit, cos the price i paid for my 2 flash carts was just shy of £50 thats for both of them, still rekon we need a jag ED as skunk etc was fail and we need a propper way of playing roms on jag, skunk had 2 b connected to a pc LOL!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on October 18, 2012, 12:33 AM
at least the GB/GBC-only  cards are crap, the "best" out there is the EMS one that is 64mbit in 2 banks and only supports 1 game saver per time (the 2 banks are 4 megabytes each)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 18, 2012, 01:16 AM
iv saw loads of GB/GBA flash carts about, i have 2 (ezflash4 which i use for GBA and supercard miniSD which i use for GB/GBC) i dont think a everdrive will benefit, cos the price i paid for my 2 flash carts was just shy of £50 thats for both of them, still rekon we need a jag ED as skunk etc was fail and we need a propper way of playing roms on jag, skunk had 2 b connected to a pc LOL!!!

Sorry but when you say you use the Super card MiniSD to play GB/GBC, you are referring to emulation - that doesn't fly with people like me that want to play with no emulation (if I wanted emulation, I would just use a PSP).

I use GB/GBC carts (Bung DoctorGB) on my GameCube via the Gameboy player since I play GameCube on my VGA/RGB monitor.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 18, 2012, 02:21 AM
true...it does emulate GB/GBC, never the less i still have 2 flash carts that plug into a GBA, and i remember seein a usb smart card 64MB knockin about somewhere i think keropi im sure thats the 1 u refer to aint it?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 18, 2012, 08:30 AM
I would also would love to see an ever drive for Neo Geo Pocket Color (there is Flashmasta, but no SD card slot), and Atari 7800/2600 (Cuttle Cart 2, which is very rare/expensive, is the only option for that, and there are plenty of people still playing old Atari).

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on October 23, 2012, 05:36 AM
Jaguar Everdrive is a necessity  ;)

Harmony 2 is comming for the atari 7800, the nes has powerpack,
neogeo pocket has good flash carts
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on October 25, 2012, 12:34 AM
neogeo pocket has good flash carts

It does?  There's only one I know of that's currently available and it's been out of stock for ages.

Edit:

Looks like it's back in stock.  All I had to do was complain publicly  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 25, 2012, 12:47 AM
There really only exists 2 official Neo Geo Pocket flash carts: The one made by Bung (rare and expensive ), and Flashmasta. Both Max out at 32mb.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chaos Sorcerer on October 29, 2012, 05:13 AM
Newbie here.. my vote is for a Sega Mark III ED. Or is there a way to make the SMS Everdrive compatible with the MKIII/Japanese SMS (and if so, will they ever be back in stock somewhere)? I've got one for the FM capabilities and would love to finally get to USE them on games in english :D

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 29, 2012, 05:45 AM
Newbie here.. my vote is for a Sega Mark III ED. Or is there a way to make the SMS Everdrive compatible with the MKIII/Japanese SMS (and if so, will they ever be back in stock somewhere)? I've got one for the FM capabilities and would love to finally get to USE them on games in english :D

Thanks :)

Why the Mark III? Does the USA Master System not have features that that the Mark III does?

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chaos Sorcerer on October 29, 2012, 02:24 PM
No, it doesn't. The US SMS only has the Texas Instruments SN76489 PSG soundchip. The Japanese MK III has an additional Yamaha YM2413 FM chip, first as an expansion board, and later on in the revised Japanese Master System release, built into the motherboard. The difference between the two is pretty major, and unfortunately as the SMS simply lacks the hardware, there's no way to hear the FM music in US titles (a lot of them still have the coding -- After Burner, Maze Hunter, Time Soldiers, R-Type, for a few examples), but there's no way to actually HEAR it and have english text.

But the biggest loss is Phantasy Star. The English localization took the FM code out entirely due to space constraints, and the FM music in this game is just amazing. Without the wonderful smspower.org retranslation, there's simply no way to hear the FM music in this game AND have an english translation, and without a way to actually dump the retranslated ROM to an MKIII cartridge, there's no way to actually hear it thru a real MKIII YM2413. There's also, interestingly enough, a few games that ONLY had US releases, yet have FM code in them... so that there's literally no way to hear them on an actual system as they were meant to be.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 29, 2012, 03:37 PM
im so excited about the upcomming everdrive nes, i have just purchased this from ebay for just over £160! well worth it and extremely rare :D and im the owner of this little lot :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Frank_fjs on October 29, 2012, 04:07 PM
Re the JP SMS, there's a couple of converters around that you could try, have no idea if they're compatible with the Everdrive though. I can tell you they do work for their intended purpose, which is to play regular MS games on a JP console.

Re the AV Famicom, bugger me that was an expensive one! Cool pick-up nonetheless, just very pricey.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on October 29, 2012, 10:03 PM
sms1 + smsfm board (http://members.iinet.net.au/~stinkyfist/reviletim/smsfm/smsfm.html) + master everdrive and you won't have to worry about getting a jp console  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Frank_fjs on October 30, 2012, 01:36 PM
I'd still rather a JP console. :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chaos Sorcerer on November 01, 2012, 01:59 AM
Well I can't solder and already have a JP SMS, so..  ;D

Any idea where I can find one of those converters, Frank? The only one I've ever stumbled across online is the tototek one and that seems to no longer be available anywhere. If I could get my hands on an SMS Everdrive and one of those I'd certainly give that method a shot.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Frank_fjs on November 01, 2012, 06:02 PM
Try emailing Tototek and asking for one. When I purchased mine they weren't showing any stock so I sent off an email and the next day he replied telling me that he had some more.

Another option if you can't source a Tototek converter is the SMS Power Gender Adapter: http://www.smspower.org/Shop/GenderAdapter

Personally I feel that the Tototek device is better, the main issue I have with the gender adapter is that you need to disfigure your console in order to use it.

P.s. Did some digging around and have confirmed that the Everdrive works with both adapters. :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 01, 2012, 09:14 PM
there is a MD/sms/32x flash cart with the yamaha sound chip actually on-board ya kno ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Frank_fjs on November 02, 2012, 06:15 AM
there is a MD/sms/32x flash cart with the yamaha sound chip actually on-board ya kno ;)

I know about that one, not a fan of it.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 02, 2012, 06:47 PM
I am looking forward to a Famicom Everdrive. I just hope Gameboy Mono/Color will be next...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on November 02, 2012, 06:52 PM
there is a MD/sms/32x flash cart with the yamaha sound chip actually on-board ya kno ;)

The SMS cart from the same folks has the FM chip on it as well.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 02, 2012, 08:37 PM
the Neoflash carts have being criticized because of the use of their custom flash memory (that is actually a complex thing) but having used the Neoflash cart for a very long time (I have the 1st hardware revision of it and some time ago it was the only advanced solution without parallel programming) I must say that they are solid and work very well. You might not have the ease of a gazillion roms on SD (without their adapter) but you get a cart that loads instantly , has great OS support from Chilly Willy with lightning fast bug squashing service and you get the added bonus of the FM chip in sms games. 
Having said that I upgraded to the Mega-ED that is a step forward (still have the neoflash cart) but it's true power is still to be seen  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on November 03, 2012, 11:39 PM
Yeah, I recommend the Everdrive carts most often, but sometimes someone may want a NeoFlash cart for a certain feature not found elsewhere. That's why I like the competition - people get more for their money compared to being stuck with one choice.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DarkKobold on November 04, 2012, 01:15 AM

And some specials :
- PlayStation CD-Emulator Everdrive
- Saturn CD-Emulator Everdrive
- PCEngine CD-Emulator Everdrive
- PC-FX CD Everdrive

Because lens are horribles and someone need to do this stuff ...

This was mentioned, but not really expanded upon. I'd like to discuss the feasibility of these, rather than just ask if it is possible. My thought first off was that you could just hijack the CDRom bus, and use an FPGA to do address translation from the CDRom addresses into the flash cart.

That might be feasible for the PC Engine/Turbografx, it has an easily exposed data bus on the back of every PC Engine or Turbografx. However, it has a sound input, which makes me believe the CD drive translates the non-data tracks into sound, and that sound is then mixed by the system. I doubt krikzz wants to build his own audio output onto a cart.

http://www.gamesx.com/misctech/pcebp.php


The Playstation 1 seems far, far more difficult, as the commands the CDRom drive receives are all in drive-based commands. I'd really assumed that the CDrom drive would be a separate entity, just getting an address and sending back data. Unfortunately, this looks way above my skill level.

http://pinoutsguide.com/Game/playstation_cdrom_pinout.shtml
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 04, 2012, 04:57 AM
I already bugged krikzz about sd loaders to replace cd drives.  It's way more difficult than you would think.  Apparently for cd stuff there's lack of information and krikzz has no interest in the pc engine cd system (or any of the others for that matter).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 04, 2012, 04:08 PM
isnt the cd stuff emulation? no wonder krikzz aint interested
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: io on November 04, 2012, 11:15 PM
What's inside MVS xxx in 1 cartridges ?
Is it a complete emulated Neo•Geo system and it just uses the MVS slot as a passthrough to display video and play audio ?
Or does it emulate an MVS cartridge like Everdrives do ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on November 05, 2012, 04:40 AM
What? There's no emulation going on. These systems aren't powerful enough to emulate much of anything, really. The N64 even has a hard time emulating the NES.

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isnt the cd stuff emulation?

This doesn't make any sense. CD games run on real systems.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: robneal81 on November 05, 2012, 05:59 PM
there is a MD/sms/32x flash cart with the yamaha sound chip actually on-board ya kno ;)

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm really confused.  Is there any way to play SMS games with the FM sound enabled on any of the flash cart's out there?  I just ordered the EverDrive MD, but I'd really like to play my SMS games with the FM sound enabled.  Can I do it with the EverDrive MD?  If not, what's the cart that will allow me to do that?

I'd really appreciate any help.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 05, 2012, 06:26 PM
there is a MD/sms/32x flash cart with the yamaha sound chip actually on-board ya kno ;)

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm really confused.  Is there any way to play SMS games with the FM sound enabled on any of the flash cart's out there?  I just ordered the EverDrive MD, but I'd really like to play my SMS games with the FM sound enabled.  Can I do it with the EverDrive MD?  If not, what's the cart that will allow me to do that?

I'd really appreciate any help.

The Neoflash NEO Myth MD 3in1 flash cart has the FM chip inside. Else you order a SMSFM board and solder it to your sms console, both are the same.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 05, 2012, 07:30 PM

And despite yhe negative criticism NeoFlash products get, I never had issues with my MD's and PCE carts.


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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: robneal81 on November 05, 2012, 08:00 PM
I really appreciate the replies.

I chose the EverDrive MD, since it seemed like I can make a bunch of folders and subfolders and organize all my games.  Based on the videos I've seen on YouTube, the EverDrive does this a lot better than the NEO Myth MD.

Other than FM support, does the NEO Myth MD do anything else the EverDrive MD doesn't?

Also, is there any other way to get FM sound from my SMS roms?  Does the Master EverDrive or anything like it support FM?  I have a Master System, as well as a Genesis and Power Base Converter, so I'd be happy with any solution.  The only other solution I know of is to install a custom FM chip into my SMS, which costs almost as much as a flash cart!

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 05, 2012, 08:09 PM
if i was bothered about FM sms games (which im not) id rather buy a neo cart than risk taking apart my sms and installing a FM board.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 05, 2012, 09:54 PM
as of now, the ONLY ways to get FM support on sms games are the following and nothing more:

a. real Japanese SMS
b. SMS + SMSFM board
c. Neoflash cart

regarding the smsfm installation it's trivial if you own a SMS1 console (which you SHOULD if you are a SMS fan) : insert the board in the insternal exp port, remove a cap and solder there the 2 sms audio wires and solder the ground somewhere. that's it.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 05, 2012, 09:56 PM
as of now, the ONLY ways to get FM support on sms games are the following and nothing more:

a. real Japanese SMS
b. SMS + SMSFM board
c. Neoflash cart

regarding the smsfm installation it's trivial if you own a SMS1 console (which you SHOULD if you are a SMS fan) : insert the board in the insternal exp port, remove a cap and solder there the 2 sms audio wires and solder the ground somewhere. that's it.

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Is there any way to play FM's games on an SMS2? Is there a flash cart compatible with the Sega Mark III?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 05, 2012, 10:49 PM
I suppose the neoflash sms cart works for sms2... if you go the smsfm route then you need to solder this:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/90aovb.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/4fx0ug.jpg)

the sms2 lacks the expansion port and you need to resort to manual soldering... I don't  recommend it, I ended up getting a sms1 that is a superior machine that requires way less modding to be usable nowdays
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: robneal81 on November 05, 2012, 11:21 PM
Adding an FM board to a model 1 SMS seems MUCH easier than that.  I think there's only about 3 wires to solder.

Wasn't there supposed to be a NeoFlash Master System cartridge with built-in FM sound?  I've seen people talk about it in forums, but I can't find one for sale.  That would probably be a better option than a Genesis flash cart, since there's no way to play 3D games on a Genesis unless you solder the 3D adapter directly to the Genesis' mainboard (I tried, it wouldn't work for me).

With a SMS Flash cart, you could use an SMS 1, or the Power Base Converter...either way, the 3D adapter will work.

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on November 06, 2012, 09:26 PM
I chose the EverDrive MD, since it seemed like I can make a bunch of folders and subfolders and organize all my games.  Based on the videos I've seen on YouTube, the EverDrive does this a lot better than the NEO Myth MD.

The current menu for the MD Myth fully supports folders and subfolders when loading games from SD cards. The flash-only cart doesn't support folders since you can only put a low number of games in the flash at once.


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Other than FM support, does the NEO Myth MD do anything else the EverDrive MD doesn't?

EEPROM save ram for the few odd games that use EEPROM instead of SRAM.


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Also, is there any other way to get FM sound from my SMS roms?  Does the Master EverDrive or anything like it support FM?  I have a Master System, as well as a Genesis and Power Base Converter, so I'd be happy with any solution.  The only other solution I know of is to install a custom FM chip into my SMS, which costs almost as much as a flash cart!

The SMS Myth also has the FM chip in the cart, but since the SMS doesn't mix audio from the cart internally, you have to run the audio RCA to the cart, then the cart audio out to the sound system for FM mixed with the regular audio.

I've seen FM adapters for the SMS for sale over at SMSPower for fairly cheap - you might consider that as well.

http://www.smspower.org/forums/index.php
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 06, 2012, 09:44 PM
I am curious, with all the talk about flash carts and SMS , is there mod for a Genesis/MegaDrive that can be performed so I can use my SMS 3D glasses? I have an MD's Myth cart, and prefer not to have yo purchase a Power Base Converter or SMS system, and separate SMS flash cart just to be able to use my SMS 3D glasses.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 06, 2012, 09:53 PM
I am curious, with all the talk about flash carts and SMS , is there mod for a Genesis/MegaDrive that can be performed so I can use my SMS 3D glasses? I have an MD's Myth cart, and prefer not to have yo purchase a Power Base Converter or SMS system, and separate SMS flash cart just to be able to use my SMS 3D glasses.

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if there is a mod its probably gonna cost more than buying original hardware lol you may aswell buy a powerbase converter or a SMS matey
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 06, 2012, 09:57 PM
I suppose the neoflash sms cart works for sms2... if you go the smsfm route then you need to solder this:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/90aovb.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/4fx0ug.jpg)

the sms2 lacks the expansion port and you need to resort to manual soldering... I don't  recommend it, I ended up getting a sms1 that is a superior machine that requires way less modding to be usable nowdays

omg...i couldnt disect my sms for that, way too many wires...way too much hassle, id take the neoflash route..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: robneal81 on November 07, 2012, 03:52 PM
I am curious, with all the talk about flash carts and SMS , is there mod for a Genesis/MegaDrive that can be performed so I can use my SMS 3D glasses? I have an MD's Myth cart, and prefer not to have yo purchase a Power Base Converter or SMS system, and separate SMS flash cart just to be able to use my SMS 3D glasses.

That's actually something I've been working on for awhile:

http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=72745

It seems there's something I'm missing...I think some electronics that go between the Sega Card slot and the cartridge input.  If anyone could help, I'd really like to get that working.  I actually do own all the SMS 3D games, but if I can play them all on my Genesis with a NeoFlash in FM, I'd be thrilled!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on November 08, 2012, 03:36 AM
Don't use the headphone jack! That's the primary output of sound for the Genesis. Nobody uses the mono AV cord on the Genesis 1 for sound, at least they shouldn't. But getting a Power Base Converter will allow for full 3D capability.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: robneal81 on November 08, 2012, 07:31 PM
Don't use the headphone jack! That's the primary output of sound for the Genesis. Nobody uses the mono AV cord on the Genesis 1 for sound, at least they shouldn't. But getting a Power Base Converter will allow for full 3D capability.

I modded my Genesis to pull line-out from the chip itself.  It's much better then getting the audio from the front port. 

Besides, it would be pretty cool to plug the 3D glasses directly into the Genesis :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on November 15, 2012, 06:18 PM
We want and need Jaguar Everdrive  :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 15, 2012, 07:22 PM
We want and need Jaguar Everdrive  :D

say it loud..say it proud..lol a jaguar everdrive is a needed essential!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on November 16, 2012, 06:21 PM
We want and need Jaguar Everdrive  :D

say it loud..say it proud..lol a jaguar everdrive is a needed essential!

Not as difficult to make as Nes, yet there's no competition out there  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 16, 2012, 08:05 PM
We want and need Jaguar Everdrive  :D

say it loud..say it proud..lol a jaguar everdrive is a needed essential!

I totally agree. I have two Skunkboard 2's, and they just do the job well enough (rare, expensive, no GUI, 2 games Max per cart).

A Jaguar Everdrive that could also double as a memory cart for CDs games would be awesome.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 18, 2012, 05:15 AM
as of now, the ONLY ways to get FM support on sms games are the following and nothing more:

a. real Japanese SMS
b. SMS + SMSFM board
c. Neoflash cart

regarding the smsfm installation it's trivial if you own a SMS1 console (which you SHOULD if you are a SMS fan) : insert the board in the insternal exp port, remove a cap and solder there the 2 sms audio wires and solder the ground somewhere. that's it.

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Anyone have link on Modding a Genesis 1 with FM's sound?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 18, 2012, 03:21 PM
It's super complicated and probably not worth the effort.  This's why I was hoping the mega everdrive would add the ability for me.

Anyone have link on Modding a Genesis 1 with FM's sound?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 18, 2012, 04:42 PM
Anyone have link on Modding a Genesis 1 with FM's sound?

the smsfm's website (http://members.iinet.net.au/~stinkyfist/reviletim/smsfm/smsfm.html) gives this link for info on connecting the smsfm to md1: http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=58327#58327
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 18, 2012, 06:20 PM
Does anyone still sell FM boards?

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 18, 2012, 08:46 PM
It's super complicated and probably not worth the effort.  This's why I was hoping the mega everdrive would add the ability for me.

Anyone have link on Modding a Genesis 1 with FM's sound?

its a hardware thing which everdrives dont have :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 18, 2012, 11:18 PM
Does anyone still sell FM boards?

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I have posted the smsfm's page, look at it and send an email to the author: http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on November 22, 2012, 04:04 PM
JAGUAR,JAGUAR,JAGUAR !!  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 22, 2012, 04:21 PM
JAGUAR,JAGUAR,JAGUAR !!  ;D

LOL i rekon krikzz should do a poll to see what everdrive needs to be made next ;) jag..cough..cough :P
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 22, 2012, 07:49 PM
yeah i've said it before and will say it again, jaguar all the way for next everdrive. even more so since i read that it's an easy flash cart to make compared to some others. not easy for the likes of me who ain't got a clue with designing such a product but a jaguar flash cart would probably be a breeze for someone with krikzz expertise and experience with such devices.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 22, 2012, 11:40 PM
well i for one would buy a jagED in a heartbeat, i wonder if krikzz reads our jag comments n thinks....ffs...lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 23, 2012, 12:36 AM
well i for one would buy a jagED in a heartbeat, i wonder if krikzz reads our jag comments n thinks....ffs...lol

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I would love a JagED cart. Skunkboard II just doesn't cut it for me.

Gameboy Color/Mono would be an obvious choice for an upcoming ED.  I know I keep repeating this, but the current Max capacity for this is 64mb, and while that would be sufficient for say, Atari 2600, it just is way too small.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 23, 2012, 06:55 PM
id like a gameboy ED too, was looking at those 64mb USB smart cards earlier they are ok for £25 i guess...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on November 25, 2012, 04:39 PM
I would probably buy both ED's no matter which one Krikzz decides to make but I know that I probably won't get around to actually use a Jaguar ED that much compared to a Gameboy ED, since I have so many just laying around and they don't require any hook-up and will work on both an original, Color, Advance, SP and Micro. Heck, maybe it wouldeven be possible to to advantage of the more advanced functions on the later consoles.

There really aren't any flash carts for the GB out there that aren't pathetic and a pain to use.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rouken on November 28, 2012, 04:25 PM
Why don't make a poll to select which system will receive the next Everdrive?

Systems options:

1. Famicom / NES
2. GameBoy / GameBoy Color
3. Virtual Boy
4. NeoGeo Pocket / NeoGeo Pocket Color
5. Atari 2600
6. Atari Jaguar
7. Wonder Swan / Wonder Swan Color




My vote is for a NeoGeo Pocket / NeoGeo Pocket Color one...  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 28, 2012, 06:18 PM
might aswell remove option 1 from the poll. the famicom/nes everdrive is close to completion. next everdrive in line after that... my vote would have to be 6. atari jaguar
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 28, 2012, 06:23 PM
i vote 6.atari jaguar  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on November 29, 2012, 10:23 PM
6. Atari Jaguar

 :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on November 29, 2012, 11:24 PM
5. Atari 2600 / 7800

We can get the same card for the two system.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 29, 2012, 11:40 PM

Number 2, Gameboy Color/Mono


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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 30, 2012, 01:41 AM

Number 2, Gameboy Color/Mono


QFT  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 30, 2012, 02:38 AM
2600/7800/GB/GBC?...cmon....u can run roms for those systems on a calculator! LOL we desperatly need sumat that runs jag roms, emulators struggle, otha jag carts r garbage, jaguar SHOULD DEFINITELY be next, no question about it  >:(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 30, 2012, 10:30 AM
OK, I've been holding up about this obsession with the Jaguar... but here it goes - like it or not , IMHO:
The Jaguar cart SHOULD DEFINITELY NOT be the next.
The system was a failure and it had 67 games in total. It is laughable as most of them are 16bit 2D ports...   :P

There are far more interesting choices with a richer games library, even the 2600/7800 cart would be more preferable from a Jaguar one...
I can understand there are people that like it but I am pretty sure a true fan would already have the good games in real cartridges.
At the end it's KRIKKz's choice, maybe he finds the jaguar fascinating or not, it all depends on him... but since he stated he had a working gb prototype I assume this will be next.

there you have it, let the wars begin!



Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on November 30, 2012, 10:47 AM
OK, I've been holding up about this obsession with the Jaguar... but here it goes - like it or not , IMHO:
The Jaguar cart SHOULD DEFINITELY NOT be the next.
The system was a failure and it had 67 games in total. It is laughable as most of them are 16bit 2D ports...   :P

There are far more interesting choices with a richer games library, even the 2600/7800 cart would be more preferable from a Jaguar one...

I shared your opinion, jaguar is cool , but the best seller is atari and i have another idea , computer 8 bit card.
It's doesn't exist on the market , if krikzz choose Amstrad or Commodore  : extension SD CARD , he can sell a lot of , all around the world
like Atari 2600/7800 , gameboy so. And he can to be the first to suggest a SDCARD os on computer 8 bit, cause we have only HxC and it is not comfortable to start a game over.

After Krikzz start a project if he like's it so we must wait his opinion.

ps : (we don't forget Colecovision in the future.)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 30, 2012, 11:52 AM
back in the day jag was a failure im not saying it wasnt but nowadays the jag is a highly desireable console, and yes only 60odd games was released which makes it even more desireable (atari karts and AVP rare games!) to have a jag in your collection will cost u a few quid, where i can pop out now and buy a gameboy for a mere £5 lol everyone has their own opinion and thats mine.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 30, 2012, 12:29 PM
The price of the console or the easy-to-find-emus are not determining factors of what flashcart to make, they are pretty much irrelevant.
In the same sense since you can also get a md/sms for 10-15quid and there are VERY good emulators for both, does that mean KRIKKz should have never made their respected flashcarts?

I can see the point of wanting to play exclusives (and btw how many good there are on the jaguar?) but judging based on price/emus is just plain wrong.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 30, 2012, 03:08 PM
i got most the good games on the jaguar on original carts but theres some very expensive games out there (atari karts and breakout 2000) i admit that a lot of people don't like the system but it has it's fanbase besides no proper flash cart solution well nothing like an everdrive loading roms from sd cart that is. the jaguar scene are still very awkward about piracy on the system and theres been one or two flash cart projects that turned out to be vaporware. also from what i read the cart is a fairly easy design and a project krikzz could design with ease. the only set back with a jag cart from krikzz point of view may be a limited customer base. on the upside though us potential customers that want a jag cart would be very happy with a jag everdrive.
i ain't impatient at all though whatever comes next is welcomed be it atari 2600,gb/gbc, gba it's all good. would be cool to know if krikzz had plans for a future jaguar cart though. don't matter when just knowing it will be made one day would be great news.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 30, 2012, 10:29 PM
The price of the console or the easy-to-find-emus are not determining factors of what flashcart to make, they are pretty much irrelevant.
In the same sense since you can also get a md/sms for 10-15quid and there are VERY good emulators for both, does that mean KRIKKz should have never made their respected flashcarts?

I can see the point of wanting to play exclusives (and btw how many good there are on the jaguar?) but judging based on price/emus is just plain wrong.

fair point, now i read it i know what u mean, but jag emulation is crap aint it lol and theres no rival cart aswell, just saying it may be easier for krikzz to knock up a jag ED than a GB one, theres plenty of solutions to play GB roms but none at all for jag (emulation is crap/none exsistent and skunkboard is just plain crap) i got AVP on jag and also wolf3D IMO best version ever :)  i have other games aswell but those 2 r my fav, BTW u cant get a sms/md for 10-15 squids not a good condition one anyway :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 30, 2012, 10:32 PM
2 be honest if a GB ED comes next then il go out and buy a GB...simples lol dont want ppl to think im a jag fanboy  :o i got a great collection of retro consoles and a few flash carts, right now rant is over im gonna luv ya n leav all u guys im gna unbox my wiiU and slap tha sucker on LOL
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: JimmyMz on December 01, 2012, 07:35 AM
I'm gonna leave all you guys to go unbox my wiiU LOL
Is the WiiU as crappy as I have been hearing? Mostly harsh words have been uttered about it's lackluster capabilities and lesser hardware (in comparison to the beefier CPU's that Microsoft and Sony use). I've read articles online, and I'm sure others in the forum have also, where Developers state that they prefer to code for game consoles with high performance CPUs. So I have to ask is the WiiU a Wii v1.1?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on December 01, 2012, 08:57 AM
I'm gonna leave all you guys to go unbox my wiiU LOL
Is the WiiU as crappy as I have been hearing? Mostly harsh words have been uttered about it's lackluster capabilities, lesser hardware in regards to the beefier CPU's that Microsoft and Sony developers have stated exist and are awesome to develop for....so I have to ask...is it a Wii v1.1?

Nintendo system, in terms of CPU power, was never powerful compared to competitors, N64 probably the only exception. GPU is the most important thing for game system, and not CPU. For example SNES CPU is piece of crap compared to genesis CPU, it even not much better than old 8bit NES cpu, but who is the king in 16bit world? SNES! cuz SNES PPU is very good, genesis VDP looks like a cripple compared to SNES PPU. I guess that main problem in lazy developers who prefer to make universal "programmer frendly" multiplatform code which is easy to move on other system. Super high level of abstraction in theirs code cost a lot, in terms of performance.
I belive that exclusive or optimised game will looks very good, cuz wii-u has much better GPU than in PS3 or XBOX360.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on December 01, 2012, 11:27 AM
wiiU is ok tbf i only have 2 games nintendo land and black ops 2, thing that sucked is that i had to do a system update which took about a hour lol oh and i had to install internet settings manually :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on December 01, 2012, 02:33 PM
Virtual boy?  That would barely merit the effort there wouldn't be many of those sold.

Why don't make a poll to select which system will receive the next Everdrive?

Systems options:

1. Famicom / NES
2. GameBoy / GameBoy Color
3. Virtual Boy
4. NeoGeo Pocket / NeoGeo Pocket Color
5. Atari 2600
6. Atari Jaguar
7. Wonder Swan / Wonder Swan Color




My vote is for a NeoGeo Pocket / NeoGeo Pocket Color one...  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on December 01, 2012, 03:49 PM
i agree with what krikzz said there. also the tg16 comes to mind. i heard it's a tarted up 8 bit machine and not proper 16 bit but the games on that console look great. guess whatever they used to display the graphics looked so good that you didn't even know it was actually an 8 bit console.
 i agree also with drakon. a virtual boy flash cart would be pointless. surely the jaguar gb/gbc and gba are more logical choices. firstly the gameboy brand is very popular and it would be great to see a cart with proper sd card solution for large library of games at once. also as we have said before the jaguar is lacking a decent flash cart solution. i even had the chance to but a skunkboard and passed on it.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on December 01, 2012, 11:02 PM
Nintendo not run after the power , and they sold 100 000 000 console wii all around the world.
They cut the cycle for their console, to get more money, and they aren't front of the big Ms or Sony.
May be after the xbox 720 and ps4 , nintendo get out the Wii Z !.

I am desapointed about sony console , their game are always the same. and i don't see sony in the future.
I think that there ll have a new competitor like samsung or apple on this market, Samsung is the best to become like
Nec and hudson soft, if samsung get a game software compagny, they can develop game on his console , tv , computer and smart phone and tablet.

A great competitor and may be, they can buy Sega enterprise. Who Know ?

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on December 02, 2012, 05:00 AM
The pc engine (tg16) is a very powerful 8 bit machine (running close to 8 mhz) with some powerful video hardware.  Too bad the pc engine sound hardware isn't as good as I'd like it but that's why the pc engine cd drive is a big must.  Another reason to get the pc engine cd drive is because hucard technology is retarded, besides street fighter 2 I think the biggest hucard rom size is only 3mbit which is the same size as mario 3.  To put that in perspective the average snes / genesis game was 16mbit.  By 1994 there was a bunch of 24mbit snes games and then after that 32mbit and even 48mbit snes games.  All the pc engine efforts were put into the cdrom but that makes sense since hucards are too small to fit big chips.  Nintendo made big cartridges and cartridge slots with all the necessary connections to install hardware upgrades into their carts.  Sega did something in between where sega put some focus on the sega cd, and some focus on cartridge games.

I played all the good hucard titles on the turbo everdrive but really the pc engine cd is where the pc engine / turbografx truly shines.  I'm still very happy I bought the turbo everdrive the price is so darn low for that thing I still easily got my monies worth out of it.  Also there are some truly worthy hucard titles like all the bonk games.

i agree with what krikzz said there. also the tg16 comes to mind. i heard it's a tarted up 8 bit machine and not proper 16 bit but the games on that console look great. guess whatever they used to display the graphics looked so good that you didn't even know it was actually an 8 bit console.
 i agree also with drakon. a virtual boy flash cart would be pointless. surely the jaguar gb/gbc and gba are more logical choices. firstly the gameboy brand is very popular and it would be great to see a cart with proper sd card solution for large library of games at once. also as we have said before the jaguar is lacking a decent flash cart solution. i even had the chance to but a skunkboard and passed on it.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on December 02, 2012, 05:31 AM
PCE viceo chip does not support multiple graphics layers, by this reasons PCE graphics looks boring, lots of colors, but only one scrollable layer. System used 8 bit cpu, but cpu is really very fast
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on December 02, 2012, 06:09 AM
Let's get back to the jaguar ED again...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on December 02, 2012, 07:51 AM
Quote from: Drakon
Another reason to get the pc engine cd drive is because hucard technology is retarded, besides street fighter 2 I think the biggest hucard rom size is only 3mbit which is the same size as mario 3.
Obviously you don't know much about the PC Engine. You have an Everdrive, right? Look at the size of the games on there. R-Type, a launch game had 4 MEGA POWER. So did many other games. Raiden had 6 MEGA POWER. So did a few others. Bonk 3 had 8 MEGA POWER. I'm pretty sure it's not the only one.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on December 02, 2012, 10:09 AM
All the pc engine efforts were put into the cdrom but that makes sense since hucards are too small to fit big chips. 

The arcard Card of the pc engine can grow up 18 mega bits  (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8411.0 (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8411.0))

it's not a problem to have a game on cdrom with 20 mega, 50 mega or 100 mega, cause the pc engine cdrom load the first stage in the memory of the arcad card or super card. The First Stage do not exceed 18mega on the arcard or 2 mega on the super system card.

Like Krikzz says the only drawback it's the scrollable layer, that SGX fix it.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on December 02, 2012, 03:35 PM
Oh really?  Guess I read that wrong haha.

Quote from: Drakon
Another reason to get the pc engine cd drive is because hucard technology is retarded, besides street fighter 2 I think the biggest hucard rom size is only 3mbit which is the same size as mario 3.
Obviously you don't know much about the PC Engine. You have an Everdrive, right? Look at the size of the games on there. R-Type, a launch game had 4 MEGA POWER. So did many other games. Raiden had 6 MEGA POWER. So did a few others. Bonk 3 had 8 MEGA POWER. I'm pretty sure it's not the only one.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on December 02, 2012, 07:52 PM
I wish someone could figure out how to load hucard games into the arcade card memory.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on December 02, 2012, 10:43 PM
there are a french project , which can load the some of hucard game from a cd rom.
The project know "super hucard", it's doesn't work on all hucard cause the developper i don't find the way for all
cause the memory bank .

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on December 07, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jaguar everdrive label should have...

...a Jaguar.  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on December 07, 2012, 07:23 PM
there are a french project , which can load the some of hucard game from a cd rom.
The project know "super hucard", it's doesn't work on all hucard cause the developper i don't find the way for all
cause the memory bank .

Yea I am well aware of Super HuCard,  but if They made a version of that which could use the Arcade Card's extra memory, it would work better.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on December 08, 2012, 12:58 PM
@RGB_Gamer

Have you a link about this project i think we propose two project different.

my Link : http://www.zeograd.com/super_hucard_download.php?lang=en (http://www.zeograd.com/super_hucard_download.php?lang=en)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: candybar on December 18, 2012, 12:33 AM
Would it be possible on Sega Saturn since it has a cartridge slot.  Sega originally intended to come out with a Megadrive/Genesis converter for it but ran into complications, so it is possible to load game data from the cartridge slot. I would love to play Sega Saturn backups from a an Everdrive SS  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on December 18, 2012, 01:01 AM
Would it be possible on Sega Saturn since it has a cartridge slot.  Sega originally intended to come out with a Megadrive/Genesis converter for it but ran into complications, so it is possible to load game data from the cartridge slot. I would love to play Sega Saturn backups from a an Everdrive SS  ;D

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Yea an everdrive that ran ISO's from the Sega Saturn cartridge slot would be sweet! I just wish something like that was possible for dreamcast.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on December 18, 2012, 01:03 AM
The problem with a Saturn Everdrive is how would the system read redbook audio? On many games the music is streamed directly off of the disc. I don't think the cart slot's bandwidth is fast enough for that and it's probably not even connected to the proper DAC. But yes, if it were possible it'd be crazy awesome.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Frank_fjs on December 18, 2012, 03:57 AM
I just wish something like that was possible for dreamcast.
You're not familiar with running games from an SD card?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on December 18, 2012, 05:02 AM
Oh how I would love an iso loading flash device for cd systems.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on December 18, 2012, 07:45 AM
I just wish something like that was possible for dreamcast.
You're not familiar with running games from an SD card?

The problem with the current DC SD readers are they're DOG SLOW!! They use GPIO lines on the serial port to transfer data one bit at a time via the CPU. So it maxes out at about 50KB/sec, and uses 100% of the CPU while doing so. Since it's MUCH slower than the GDROM, games that stream data perform badly off the SD card.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on December 18, 2012, 09:35 AM
I just wish something like that was possible for dreamcast.
You're not familiar with running games from an SD card?

The problem with the current DC SD readers are they're DOG SLOW!! They use GPIO lines on the serial port to transfer data one bit at a time via the CPU. So it maxes out at about 50KB/sec, and uses 100% of the CPU while doing so. Since it's MUCH slower than the GDROM, games that stream data perform badly off the SD card.

yes SD loading is crap i got one, the FMV scenes are choppy, sometimes unstable aswell, i dont use mine now and its for sale if anyone wants 2 check it out..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on December 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
I remember Krikzz saying a while ago he wasn't planning to work on any CD based consoles. Might've changed his mind since then of course.

OzOnE and cybdyn were looking into SD loading on the DC, posting their research in a thread on assembler. OzOnE made a few posts recently, but as I understand it there are a few difficult roadblocks he'd need to figure out, and he seems to have taken more of an interest in the 64DD. cyndyn and the people he's working with on the PSIO project have said that they'd like to incorporate other consoles into their work, including the Saturn and DC, so you may want to keep an eye on that.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on December 19, 2012, 04:14 AM
I remember Krikzz saying a while ago he wasn't planning to work on any CD based consoles. Might've changed his mind since then of course.

I doubt he changed his mind but one can always dream I suppose.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: danilop2k2 on December 30, 2012, 12:47 AM
Jaguar,Jaguar,Jaguar !

My sunkboard sucks
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 02, 2013, 01:09 AM
i was just reading back through this thread and noticed that there is definatly a demand for alternative game loading devices for older generation optical drive consoles. it's something that i would purchase without hesitation with the main reason being that i could play games on some of my old consoles without that dreaded sooner or later this damned laser is gonna fail feeling. i was stumbling around the net earlier and came across this http://www.retrocollect.com/News/panasonic-3do-ide-adapter-allows-loading-isos-from-an-internal-hard-drive.html it's probably old news to most but i'd never heard of it. if i had a 3do i would be onto this in an instant. also got me wondering if this can be done for 3do then why not similar devices for ps1, dreamcast, pcengine cd and so on. i know krikzz has stated he aint interested in cd based system solutions but this 3do adapter thing left me thinking that sooner or later down the line we may see these solutions for our beloved older consoles come from somewhere. also there is a thread over at assembler forums about this device. since a lot of people with older optical drive systems replace worn lasers or just purchase another used system off ebay and throw the old one in the loft or in the trash makes me think there must be some old dead consoles out there waiting to be brought back from the dead with such a device lol. another thing is this would have probably be way bigger news had it been designed for the ps1 or dreamcast.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on January 02, 2013, 01:45 AM
The latest design I've read about in testing for replacing the GDROM in the DC uses an IDE connector as well as an SD card. I suppose you transfer gdrom images to the internal harddrive using SD. Something like that makes the most sense for a CDROM replacement.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 02, 2013, 01:55 AM
thats interesting. i didn't know there was a new solution in the pipeline for the dreamcast. i know about the sd solution but i heard it ain't up to much when playing most games so i didn't bother looking into it. tbh the amount of noise the dreamcast gdrom makes while accessing cdrs always worries me while playing games so a proper solution for the creamcast is a must for the longterm. i bet nearly all broken down dreamcasts are due to gdrom failiure. i also remember reading about a ps1 project thats going on and i visited the website but it was a while ago and cant remember where i read the info. i also don't remember how the guys involved in that project were going about loading the images. it may be something along the lines of the 3do or dreamcast solutions or something different  guess.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on January 05, 2013, 11:28 AM
Would it be possible on Sega Saturn since it has a cartridge slot.  Sega originally intended to come out with a Megadrive/Genesis converter for it but ran into complications, so it is possible to load game data from the cartridge slot. I would love to play Sega Saturn backups from a an Everdrive SS  ;D

great idea ! if it's possible, there are a lot of console saturn on the world for Krikzz
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on January 05, 2013, 09:25 PM
Would it be possible on Sega Saturn since it has a cartridge slot.  Sega originally intended to come out with a Megadrive/Genesis converter for it but ran into complications, so it is possible to load game data from the cartridge slot. I would love to play Sega Saturn backups from a an Everdrive SS  ;D

The cart port on the Saturn wasn't meant for backwards compatibility at any point in time - it was meant for the Jupiter: SoJ wanted two versions of the Saturn - one version used carts, had only one block of ram (1MB high work ram), and no CD - it would be called the Jupiter and retail for a LOT less than the Saturn; the second was the Saturn as we know it. It had a cart slot so it could play all the Jupiter games for when Jupiter owners "leveled up" to the top of the line Sega console.

You can make games that play through the cart port - there's a Saturn homebrew game that does that. Anywho, while it would be possible to make a SD cart for the Saturn, you would need some serious patching of each and every game to get them to work on it. Saturn CDs have the CD code in the executable of the game - the "BIOS" in the Saturn does nothing that's higher level with respect to the machine... it's all calls for things like setting an interrupt, or locking a semaphore, or changing the cpu speed. Games used two libraries from Sega (or wrote their own) that hammers on the hardware directly for things like reading the CD.

I suppose many games use Sega's library code directly, so many of these may have the same kind of patching... do a search for the relevant code and do the same patch. However, that's quite a bit of effort for CD replacement.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on January 07, 2013, 06:59 PM
i was just reading back through this thread and noticed that there is definatly a demand for alternative game loading devices for older generation optical drive consoles. it's something that i would purchase without hesitation with the main reason being that i could play games on some of my old consoles without that dreaded sooner or later this damned laser is gonna fail feeling. i was stumbling around the net earlier and came across this http://www.retrocollect.com/News/panasonic-3do-ide-adapter-allows-loading-isos-from-an-internal-hard-drive.html it's probably old news to most but i'd never heard of it. if i had a 3do i would be onto this in an instant. also got me wondering if this can be done for 3do then why not similar devices for ps1, dreamcast, pcengine cd and so on. i know krikzz has stated he aint interested in cd based system solutions but this 3do adapter thing left me thinking that sooner or later down the line we may see these solutions for our beloved older consoles come from somewhere. also there is a thread over at assembler forums about this device. since a lot of people with older optical drive systems replace worn lasers or just purchase another used system off ebay and throw the old one in the loft or in the trash makes me think there must be some old dead consoles out there waiting to be brought back from the dead with such a device lol. another thing is this would have probably be way bigger news had it been designed for the ps1 or dreamcast.
The only other one that I'm aware of in planning stages is the Psio for the PS1/PSX.  I'm planning to buy one of the 3do adapters when Stone Age Gamer has it, and will buy a Psio as soon as they're avaiable.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 08, 2013, 12:03 AM
stone age gamer gonna stock the 3do adaptor? thats good to know :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 08, 2013, 03:18 AM
stone age gamer gonna stock the 3do adaptor? thats good to know :)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 2 (THE BEST forum app)

I really wish the 3DO IDE adapter worked on an FZ-1 system. Mine is RGB modded.

Great news about the PSIO. I actually have a separate PSX system in addition to my PS2 with HDD. Now all we need is an HDD solution for Sega Saturn and Dreamcast...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on January 08, 2013, 05:54 AM
Hey RGB Gamer, can you turn that Tapatalk thing off? It's really, really annoying to see it in every single one of your forum posts here. It's definitely a reason to hope Tapatalk fails soon and fails hard. Tapatalk is by far the WORST forum app if it does that every single time it posts.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 08, 2013, 06:29 AM
Hey RGB Gamer, can you turn that Tapatalk thing off? It's really, really annoying to see it in every single one of your forum posts here. It's definitely a reason to hope Tapatalk fails soon and fails hard. Tapatalk is by far the WORST forum app if it does that every single time it posts.


Done. Anything else I can do for you?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on January 08, 2013, 06:59 AM
Awesome. Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on January 08, 2013, 02:43 PM
Another vote for Jaguar  8)

I also still think a Neo Geo everdrive would be great. They aren't really all that complex at all, pretty much every game which had protection is also decrypted so it wouldn't even need to defeat that. I've personally built a Metal Slug 5 cart using a KOF97 cart as a donor and 64mb flash roms, which aren't that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Everything Neo Geo is so expensive anyway, I'm sure even a £200+ cart would shift lots of units. There's loads of info on the custom ICs on standard Neo carts too. The Neo273 is just four ls273 logic ICs on one chip and the PRO-CT0 (also found in the ZMC2 which also includes a Z80 buffer) has be totally replicated in VHDL now.

I'd like to start seeing CD-ROM emulators too. Particularly Saturn and Gamecube (that thing which plugs into the memory card port doesn't count).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 09, 2013, 01:52 AM
Technically WODE plays GameCube games from HDD
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on January 09, 2013, 08:33 PM
And my vote goes to:

JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 09, 2013, 09:36 PM
i was interested in the wode mod running on a gamecube but aint there problems with games which stream audio? or has those issues been fixed for 100 percent compatibility ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 09, 2013, 10:19 PM
And my vote goes to:

JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!!!  ;D

yayyyy another jag fan :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 10, 2013, 09:18 AM
the current way of loading GC isos is dios mios lite
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on January 10, 2013, 07:09 PM
On a Wii, yeah. Not the original GC.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 10, 2013, 08:44 PM
well until i know the compatibility is 100% with the gamecube wode i will stick with my viper chipped gamecube and collection of burned mini dvds, oh and the original games i had before the viper chip was concieved.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 10, 2013, 10:03 PM
Butfluffy,

At this point, using mini DVD's is your best bet for 100% compatibility for GC games on a GC system. I wanted to go for a WODE and use it on my GC, buy I don't have time nor skills to pull off that mod...

By the way, what mini DVD-R's are you using, and did you have to adjust the GC's laser?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on January 10, 2013, 10:42 PM
I use RiData MiniDVD-Rs, and I had to adjust the laser. I have two SD card interfaces... I forget why, but I had planned to use both on homebrew.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 10, 2013, 10:52 PM
it was a few years back when i burned my gamecube collection to disks. i never had to adjust my gamecube laser but i remember being advised at the time to burn disks which used ritek dye. the old type very dark purple dye and they were 2x max burn speed. i think that the disks may have been traxdata though. ritek were used by a few brands back then. my gamecube is picky with other type of dyes. i have it large lid modded for use of full size disks but the only large disks which work are the dark purple dye ones aswell.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 10, 2013, 11:10 PM
easier on wii...gc consoles are crap, rather have a panasonic Q
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on January 11, 2013, 10:05 AM
it is true: the best gameCube is the Wii  :o
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 11, 2013, 11:50 AM
tbh i only ever used my wii for wii games. is there a reliable gamecube usb iso loader available for wii? if theres one that works well i could reduce wear and tear on my gamecube laser :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on January 11, 2013, 07:54 PM
tbh i only ever used my wii for wii games. is there a reliable gamecube usb iso loader available for wii? if theres one that works well i could reduce wear and tear on my gamecube laser :)

There's Devolution http://gbatemp.net/threads/devolution-public-release.330554/ which from what I hear has the best compatibility, but to prevent piracy it requires a legit disk of the game you want to play to be loaded once. Dios Mios also does the job well, is also being actively worked on http://code.google.com/p/diosmios/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on January 11, 2013, 10:04 PM
ok cheers for the info :) most my gamecubes games are backups. i wonder if that devolution loader will work using a backup mini dvd to verify or can devolution tell if it's not original disk?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on January 12, 2013, 03:52 AM
Devolution's "anti-piracy" thing is something that words cannot describe.  :-X
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: JimmyMz on January 13, 2013, 05:07 AM
Devolution's "anti-piracy" thing is something that words cannot describe.  :-X
He's pretty adament about it too. He almost quite development due to a leak...pretty temperamental guy.   :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on January 18, 2013, 12:02 AM
just had to say

we need JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!

sunkboard sucks!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 18, 2013, 04:19 AM
just had to say

we need JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!

sunkboard sucks!!!

Agreed. I have two skunk board II's that see no use at all. No GUI, limited to two games, no caed slot, and I had to provide my own cartridge shell.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 18, 2013, 03:44 PM
just had to say

we need JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!

sunkboard sucks!!!

Agreed. I have two skunk board II's that see no use at all. No GUI, limited to two games, no caed slot, and I had to provide my own cartridge shell.

lol @ 'sunkboard' can i ask why you have 2 of them? what 2 games do u run on it?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on January 18, 2013, 09:54 PM
lol @ 'sunkboard' can i ask why you have 2 of them? what 2 games do u run on it?

He probably has two so that one can be left burned with a couple games he plays more often than others, with the second available to burn to other things as needed. That's the big problem with flash-only cards that you have to burn over USB/parallel - it's a pain running multiple games as you need to reburn the flash for each different game. At least the Everdrive flash-only carts have an SD interface so you can reflash on the console. Not quite as good as SD+RAM, but far better than flash+USB/parallel.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on January 21, 2013, 09:29 PM
cased my skunkboard, put it on the box,
and NEVER used it it's crap

WE NEED JAGUAR EVERDRIVE  >:(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: gtsamour on January 22, 2013, 11:27 AM
well since NeoGeo cart is impossible to make, I'll have to go with Shaguar :P
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 22, 2013, 08:45 PM
lol @ shaguar
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on January 26, 2013, 01:15 AM
well since NeoGeo cart is impossible to make, I'll have to go with Shaguar :P

Why is it impossible? Has the protection not been cracked on the hardware, or something? Or do you mean that such cartridges daren't be made as the Neo-Geo games still make money for their company(s), so if an Everdrive (or equivalent) came out then the company(s) behind the Neo-Geo would sue?

Sorry if the answer is well known, I know nothing about the Neo-Geo (except that the games I played  (under emulation) such as the Metal Slug games were great).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 26, 2013, 02:40 AM
I don't think a neo geo flash cart will happen, whether it is technically possible or not. The people that make those multi carts need to make another with games not on the other multi carts (why they keep including so many KOF hacks is beyond me).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 26, 2013, 03:38 AM
they sure love their 2D fighters lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on January 26, 2013, 04:01 AM
they sure love their 2D fighters lol

Did they make other genres for the Neo-Geo?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on January 26, 2013, 11:20 AM
they sure love their 2D fighters lol

Did they make other genres for the Neo-Geo?
i was takin the piss lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on January 27, 2013, 04:48 PM
they sure love their 2D fighters lol

Did they make other genres for the Neo-Geo?

Puzzle games?  And crappy shmups?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on January 28, 2013, 12:46 AM
I think the two things Neo-Geo is known for as BEST is 2D Fighters and Run-n-Gun games (think Metal Slug).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on January 28, 2013, 02:38 AM
A neo geo flash cart will happen eventually believe me. It will probably be expensive but it'll sell regardless. There's more to it than a regular flash cart but it'd be way easier to do than say a NES flash cart, just way more expensive to produce.

Krikzz has said many times he has no interest in it though (a shame if you ask me but there we are).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on January 28, 2013, 03:07 AM
I'd buy one, as long as it was AES.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on January 28, 2013, 05:05 AM
I think the two things Neo-Geo is known for as BEST is 2D Fighters and Run-n-Gun games (think Metal Slug).

I can't think of any other run'n'guns besides metal slug.  Too bad metal slug the gameplay isn't more fun, it's so purdy.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rouken on February 01, 2013, 04:01 PM
A SS Everdrive (or SegaSaturn Everdrive) could be nice.  ;D

What the point of a SS Everdrive if it is a CD-based console? The main focus here is not the option to load ROMs, but create a method to backup your saves in a SD Card. Today, the only way to backup SS saves is with the combination of a specific version of the SS Action Replay (the one with a 25-pin data port), plus the Sega Saturn USB Data Link (http://www.gamingenterprisesinc.com/DataLink/). This way works very well, but we have a lot of work to link the Sega Saturn with a PC or Laptop.

With a SS Everdrive, the idea here is we can backup the saves in a SD card directly or indirectly. I said "directly" because the saves can be stored directly to the SD card. One cool thing about a direct form to backup saves to a SD card is you will have a proportional space to backup many saves possible. But if using a SD card to store the saves directly is not possible (thinking about some technical issue, or about formating the cartridge from the Sega Saturn save manager can not work as it should and do some problem to the SD card), an "indirectly" way can be used, using a specific storage chip to keep the saves inside the cartridge, plus the use of a manager menu to exchange the data from the cartridge memory (and internal SS memory) to the SD card.

It could be nice to have a way to backup your SegaSaturn saves in a SD Card this easy, and send they to a PC to send to your friends or to play in an emulator.

Besides this version of Everdrive working as a Backup Catridge, it can too works as:
> A Region Unlock cartridge;
> An 1-Mega RAM Cartridge;
> A 4-Mega RAM Cartridge;
> Game Shark / Action Replay function;
> Two EPROMs with the ROMs of The King of Fighter's 95 and UltraMan: Hikari no Kyojin Densetsu pre-burned with the SS Everdrive (in other words, no need to copy the ROMs in the SD Card and wait to load the ROMs in a Flash ROM memory, once there's only two ROM Cartridges for SegaSaturn).

The idea is: With this Everdrive connected in the Saturn, before the Sega Saturn logo appears, a SS Everdrive logo appears first for some seconds. By default, the Everdrive will start in "Backup Cartridge" mode. But, during the SS Everdrive logo, pressing (not hold) some buttons will change the mode the cartridge will operate. The suggested combination is:
A - Start in the 1-Mega RAM Mode
B - Start in the 4-Mega RAM Mode
C - Call the Cheat menu and start in Cheat mode (Action Replay / Game Shark)
X - Start running The King of Fighters' 95 ROM
Y - Start running UltraMan: Hikari no Kyojin Densetsu ROM
Z - Enable (if disabled) / Disable (if enabled) the Backup Cartridge Mode
L+R - Call the SS Everdrive config menu
Start - Skip the logo (if you select some option first, you will skip the logo with the option selected)

Once you press the A/B/C/X/Y/Z button to select a mode, a message will confirm the selected mode, and the logo will fade out in two seconds. You can change the option again before the screen fade out, just pressing another button (another message will appear over the previous one, and the two seconds to the logo fade out will start again). Pressing again the same button you pressed previously will not interfere in the "two seconds countdown" (not counting the Z button to disable/enable the Backup mode).

Something to point: If you call the Cheat menu and finish the selections, a popup menu will appears before leaving the cheat menu, asking if you want to start the cheat mode combinated with Backup Mode, 1-Mega mode, 4-Mega mode, KoF'95 mode, Ultraman mode or just in cheat mode.

Everytime you press reset, you will back to the SS Everdrive logo before Sega Saturn logo starts. But can be added an option allows the SS Everdrive just show the logo when you power up the Saturn and not when you reset, and keep the options selected from the start.

Inside the config menu of the Everdrive, you can find some options, like select the default mode for the SS Everdrive (the factory selected option is the Backup mode, but you can select any other mode to be the default mode), or a cheat database update option.

Well... There's my suggestion for another Everdrive.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on February 02, 2013, 01:05 AM
To me that would be kind of useless. The whole point of an Everdrive is to play "backups". You describe a fancier Action Replay. I would love to see a Saturn Everdrive that could actually load and run games, but I'm not convinced that's within the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rouken on February 02, 2013, 01:26 PM
Well... You can find some SS cartridges with 1-Mega RAM, 4-Mega RAM, Cheat Code and Region Unlock support, but if can be release a SS cartridge with all of this, plus support to backup saves in a SD Card and come with the KoF'95 and Ultraman ROMs too, this is can become the ultimate cartridge for the Sega Saturn. And plus, if the cartridge can have an USB port to send data from PC to the SegaSaturn, this cartridge can be an usefull tool for homebrew developers (but the data of the homebrew could be loaded from the SD Card too).

I don't know if it's possible, but once the Sega Titan (ST-V) is basically an arcade version of the Sega Saturn running games in cartridge, the Everdrive can do some resource to trick the Sega Saturn and run Sega Titan games loaded from the flash cartridge (TEST and SERVICE buttons must be added in the cartridge for it). I don't know how the structure of the Sega Titan works and how the cartridge slots works on Sega Saturn, so I can't say this idea can work.

About running CD backups in the Sega Saturn, an Everdrive cartridge will not work to load the Sega Saturn games, once the games are stored in CDs... Unless KRIKzz find a way to send the game data from an ISO file to the Sega Saturn using the cartridge as the transfer way instead the optical reader. But, seriously... Is this way possible?

Anyway, to do an Everdrive for systems uses discs as storage media (Saturn, Dreamcast, PlayStation, etc...), it could use the same struture used by the WODE Jukebox.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on February 03, 2013, 03:05 AM
Have the KoF 95 and Ultraman ROM data even been dumped?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rouken on February 05, 2013, 12:24 AM
Have the KoF 95 and Ultraman ROM data even been dumped?

KoF'95 have the ROM cartridge dumped. You can find it at EmuParadise. It's a small 1.3M ROM!!

Ultraman... I don't know if there's some dump for this cartridge. If someone find any clue, tell me.

You can try Google it using the full title Ultraman: Hikari no Kyojin Densetsu.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on February 05, 2013, 03:51 AM
Just checked and King of Fighters is actually 2 megabytes. 1.3 is the compressed version and they didn't store those things compressed on the cart. Yeah, irrelevant, I know.  I just like to know the size of the real thing instead of the web compressed thing. :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rouken on February 05, 2013, 01:38 PM
Just checked and King of Fighters is actually 2 megabytes. 1.3 is the compressed version and they didn't store those things compressed on the cart. Yeah, irrelevant, I know.  I just like to know the size of the real thing instead of the web compressed thing. :)

Fun Fact: I don't downloaded the KoF'95 ROM yet!!   ;D
That's because I didn't paid attention about the real size of the file.

The reason I don't downloaded it yet it's because I don't get the emulator to test it... By the way, which Saturn emulator can run the SS ROMs cartridges? I know was released one emulator with this support, but I don't remember which...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on February 06, 2013, 01:59 AM
If anyone might be interested, I updated the first post with a poll for upcomming Everdrives, just to get an idea what is actually the most requested one at the time.

You can also vote here if you'd rather like that.
What Everdrive would you like to see next (http://poll.pollcode.com/tbhf1q)

*Edit* First poll had a problem. I just re-created it
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on February 06, 2013, 07:09 AM
I'm not voting in that.  Some of those systems are way too much work to make a flashcart for.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on February 06, 2013, 10:30 AM
Well. It's not a petition or anything, it's just a little poll to see what consoles people would like to own a Everdrive for.

I know the Neo Geo for example is not realistic, but it's not really the point here :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 06, 2013, 05:15 PM
no point in neo geo now that the neo geo gold x is available, by looking at that list it makes sense and probably easier for a jaguar everdrive to be next
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on February 06, 2013, 07:55 PM
Didn't they just discontinue the Neo Geo Gold X?... i Think I read about it on Kotaku..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 06, 2013, 09:02 PM
Didn't they just discontinue the Neo Geo Gold X?... i Think I read about it on Kotaku..

aint sure however it was limited edition so u may be right
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on February 06, 2013, 09:07 PM
http://kotaku.com/5978233/report-neogeo-xs-production-is-coming-to-an-end (http://kotaku.com/5978233/report-neogeo-xs-production-is-coming-to-an-end)

It's a shame. I really woul have loved to own one :/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on February 06, 2013, 09:11 PM
They've updated the article to specify that they're only ceasing production of the Limited Edition models of the NG X. And to those who say there's no point in a Neo Geo flashcart since the X exists, you could make the same argument for emulators! The point of flashcarts is to be able to enjoy the games on the original hardware! =)

Someone made a post on the assemblergames forums a few months ago saying that an AES flashcart was in the works, but didn't go into too much detail. He also hasn't visited the forums in as many months, so no recent news regarding that as far as I know.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 07, 2013, 10:36 AM
aes are too pricey, so was the x gold, aint fussed about neo geo anyway, only decent games where metal slugs and the fighter games..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on February 07, 2013, 03:48 PM
Then your other options are the NGCD, which you can burn games for, though the loading times are terrible, or the MVS, for which there are several multicarts available.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: deksar on February 07, 2013, 08:11 PM
I'm sure a NES everdrive could improve on the powerpak.  The powerpak has a lot of mappers that don't work 100% right.  Some mappers on the nes powerpak don't work at all.
+1
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: deksar on February 07, 2013, 08:12 PM
Whats stopping Krizz from developing for CD based systems - 3DO / Saturn / Dreamcast would be awsome - I know there is a Russian chap who has an IDE for 3D0 so its doable

1: CD drive replacements aren't just "plug'n'play" you need to find someone to solder them in.

Well, people from PSIO claim they DO have "plug'n'play" CD drive replacements for PS1. A CD-ROM drive emulator to SD card:

http://psio.com.au/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 08, 2013, 02:54 AM
psio, yeah it's plug and play if you have an old model ps1 with the expansion slot at the back. i have one of these and a newer smal psone. i will be geting the psio soon as i can get my hands on one. the 3do ide interface is not as simple as this. seems it would require some modding experience to install. if i ever decide o get a 3do for my collection i will definatly track one of these devices down, then get a mate that mods to install it :)
 i agree with people who think solutions for older optical drive consoles would be great. seems like there are some projects already underway and maybe down the line we will eventually see solutions for all the classic consoles. krikzz has stated he ain't interested in working on optical drive based everdrives but there are still a few cartridge based systems that could do wit the everdrive goodness anyhows :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on February 08, 2013, 08:07 AM
Gameboy color/mono ever drive is long overdue...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 08, 2013, 12:15 PM
yeah i agree gameboy mono/color everdrive would be great also, krikzz said he started a gameboy everdrive but it consumed to much power unfortunatly. i myself would still love to see this product even if it ment we would have to play with our gameboys plugged into a power source to prevent eating tons of batteries while playing on the move. personally i would like to see the GB mono/color everdrive so i could play on the gamecube using a gamecube gameboy/gba adaptor. i would also like to see a GBA everdrive for this reason, ok there are some sd card GBA carts out there but they don't seem as user friendly as everdrives. maybe due to the fact that GBA sd flashcarts exist right now, a GBA cart is lower priority and maybe one for the future.
 the jaguar on the other hand don't seem to have a proper solution at all. the best option for jaguar is the skunkboard which is a waste of time and not user friendly at all. the GB mono/color has a 64m usb solution which is not ideal but at least it's something for now.
 for reasons mentioned above i would opt for a jaguar everdrive next, then GB mono/color, GBA, Atari 2600 and after that any others would be a bonus. 
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 08, 2013, 12:45 PM
well im sure krikzz is busy on the NES everdrive now but i would love a jaguar everdrive for sure
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on February 13, 2013, 06:45 AM
yeah i agree gameboy mono/color everdrive would be great also, krikzz said he started a gameboy everdrive but it consumed to much power unfortunatly. i myself would still love to see this product even if it ment we would have to play with our gameboys plugged into a power source to prevent eating tons of batteries while playing on the move. personally i would like to see the GB mono/color everdrive so i could play on the gamecube using a gamecube gameboy/gba adaptor. i would also like to see a GBA everdrive for this reason, ok there are some sd card GBA carts out there but they don't seem as user friendly as everdrives. maybe due to the fact that GBA sd flashcarts exist right now, a GBA cart is lower priority and maybe one for the future.
 the jaguar on the other hand don't seem to have a proper solution at all. the best option for jaguar is the skunkboard which is a waste of time and not user friendly at all. the GB mono/color has a 64m usb solution which is not ideal but at least it's something for now.
 for reasons mentioned above i would opt for a jaguar everdrive next, then GB mono/color, GBA, Atari 2600 and after that any others would be a bonus.

I play GB mono/GB color/GBA  on my Gamecube on my 37" VGA with my Hori SNES style GameCube pad, as well as my first generation GBA (has the internal guts of a GBA SP 101 front lit system)...they are both aching for a GB Mono/color/GBA Ever drive cart
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 13, 2013, 08:31 AM
i am using ez flash iv for gba and EMS 64 MB GB SMARTCARD for gb/gbc. i can ditch both for everdrives.

@RGB_Gamer: are you using component cables and 480p on your gamecube for the gameboy player?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 13, 2013, 02:49 PM
i was thinking about purchasing an ezflash iv before but decided against it in case we get an everdrive in the future. i'm currently playing gba on my ds using the gba adaptor which came with my ms ds real perfect. i would much prefer to play gba on large screen with the gameboy player though. gba on thesmall screen  ds kills my eyes after long periods of play.
 i play gameboy mono/colour using xports emulators for the xbox1. even though this emulator runs very well i would still much prefer an everdrive + gamecube gb player proper hardware solution.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 13, 2013, 03:24 PM
ezflash iv is the best gba flash cart which can still be easily found. though it began to disappear from stores, so it might be a good  time to buy one. in case there is a new everdrive, you can easily sell it for the price you bought. (about 40$)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on February 13, 2013, 05:00 PM
i am using ez flash iv for gba and EMS 64 MB GB SMARTCARD for gb/gbc. i can ditch both for everdrives.

@RGB_Gamer: are you using component cables and 480p on your gamecube for the gameboy player?

Component cables converted to VGA
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 13, 2013, 08:39 PM
i may get a ezflash iv then just in case theres no gba everdrive. some things put me off the ezflashin the past. i heard theres no drag and drop support and you need to use software to updte the sd card. also i heard there was a sd card size limit and you cant exactly just fit the entire gba rom library onto one sd card like with everdrives. i would live with these shortcommings though if there was no everdrive solution.
 does anyone know of a reliable store still selling the ezflash iv? i'm from the uk so uk site would be better but i will import if i have to.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 13, 2013, 08:46 PM
@RGB_Gamer::that's nice. did you get the chance to check it against 480i via RGB cable? does 480p improve the picture? i am asking especially for gameboy player. i know games really profit from that, but it is a question mark for me for gameboy player. if i buy a gamecube component cable, it will be especially for gameboy player. and these cables do not come cheap.

@butfluffy: i bought from realhotstuff.hk. it takes about 2-3 weeks. though i chose the option with tracking number and it arrived without a problem.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 13, 2013, 08:54 PM
thanks for the info i will check them out now. i don't mind waiting 2-3 weeks for shipping. i had to wait that long recently for my joypad converters from tototek, who are also honk kong based :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 13, 2013, 08:56 PM
i got EZflash4 it came with a dodgy star wars theme on but soon got rid and put a dreamcast theme on :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 13, 2013, 09:00 PM
damn just checked the realhotstuff website and they are out of stock :( i didn't realise it supported up to 8gb cards. that aint so bad, could get plenty of games there. know any other possible places guys ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 13, 2013, 09:09 PM
read this :( looks like you aint gettin one (brand new anyway)

http://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-iv-is-being-discontinued.339309/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 13, 2013, 09:12 PM
omg i stand corrected!!!!

http://www.flashlinker-shop.com/ez-flash-iv-minisd-slot-2-gba-gbm-sp-nds-nds-lite-p-443.html

only a few left butfluffy!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 13, 2013, 09:14 PM
be warned tho the sd slot is shite, u need finger nails like fred krueger to take out sd card cos its not push-push like the super card, i broke the case trying to take out sd card :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on February 13, 2013, 09:33 PM
@reprep

I get 480p on my RGB/VGA monitor on the gameboy player. It looks really nice. I personally recommend a GC component cable hacked to VGA if your monitor supports 15khz and 31khz, as opposed to a component to VGA converter - I used to use a Vidigi converter, and the results don't look as good as straight VGA.
Not all GC games support 480p though, but if your monitor supports both 15khz and 31khz like mine does, you are all set.

What is a good, reliable site to buy an EZ Flash IV ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 13, 2013, 09:40 PM
it is not 8 gb, it is 4 gb max. and that 4 gb is when you find a 4 gb SD cart, though most of the 4 gb cards are SDHC and doesn't work on ezflash iv. good luck finding a working 4 gb sd card.

i have a 2 gb and still couldn't fill it completely.

http://www.gamecardsource.com/free-shipping-ezmini-flash-ezflash-ezflash-4-iv-minisd_p1043.html

my friend bough from that site and it came in about 20 days. i don't know that site and i am not responsible for anything. though these days it is really hard to find an ez flash iv in stock.

also i saw some sellers at aliexpress.com.

@RGB_Gamer: my TV has both component and VGA inputs but i doubt it will accept 15 khz VGA. is there a place where i can buy a component cable cheaper than 100$?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 13, 2013, 09:54 PM
damn sems like i will need a paypal account. don't trust paypal since my old account got hacked (money got put in not stolen lol) good job paypal froze the account before bad stuff started happening. oh well guess i will have to get my brother to order it for me using his paypal.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 13, 2013, 10:03 PM
i use a 2gb mini sd card, i find its all i need :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 16, 2013, 02:11 AM
well i have ordered the ezflash iv guys. i have a mini sd adaptorhere which came with a bundle i purchased before. guess i wil have to try and track down a 4gb non hc micro sd card now :( either that or just buy a new 2gb minisd card. i don't realy want any lag problems using the adaptor either but people are saying the adaptor way workd fine so long as you use a good one. i have always found sandisk to be good.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 17, 2013, 06:19 PM
realhotstuff.hk has ez flash iv in stock again.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 17, 2013, 06:45 PM
well i have ordered the ezflash iv guys. i have a mini sd adaptorhere which came with a bundle i purchased before. guess i wil have to try and track down a 4gb non hc micro sd card now :( either that or just buy a new 2gb minisd card. i don't realy want any lag problems using the adaptor either but people are saying the adaptor way workd fine so long as you use a good one. i have always found sandisk to be good.
all cards over 2GB are high capacity, no such thing as 4GB none HC
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 17, 2013, 09:00 PM
well i have ordered the ezflash iv guys. i have a mini sd adaptorhere which came with a bundle i purchased before. guess i wil have to try and track down a 4gb non hc micro sd card now :( either that or just buy a new 2gb minisd card. i don't realy want any lag problems using the adaptor either but people are saying the adaptor way workd fine so long as you use a good one. i have always found sandisk to be good.
all cards over 2GB are high capacity, no such thing as 4GB none HC

don't be so sure. there are 4 gb non-hc cards, they are non-standart and hard to find. google topram 4 gb mini-sd for a start.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 18, 2013, 12:00 AM
well i have ordered the ezflash iv guys. i have a mini sd adaptorhere which came with a bundle i purchased before. guess i wil have to try and track down a 4gb non hc micro sd card now :( either that or just buy a new 2gb minisd card. i don't realy want any lag problems using the adaptor either but people are saying the adaptor way workd fine so long as you use a good one. i have always found sandisk to be good.
all cards over 2GB are high capacity, no such thing as 4GB none HC

don't be so sure. there are 4 gb non-hc cards, they are non-standart and hard to find. google topram 4 gb mini-sd for a start.

ok so i googled it, 4gb mini sd, hmm....

this is quoted from topram themselves..

 "Attention customers:
Some devices may need to upgrade firmware to use 4GB miniSD Card."

personally i would avoid and not waste my money
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: snstay on February 18, 2013, 01:55 AM
I recently got an intellivision.......hint,hint.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 18, 2013, 02:12 AM
i think i can cope with a 2gb card anyhow. theres always the option to move different roms from the romset i have from pc to sd wheneer i want to play a specific game :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on February 18, 2013, 09:42 AM
topram 4 gb mini-sd is confirmed to work with ez flash iv. though they are hard to find. i found one about 28$ included shipping. it is too much for 4 gb.

i am currently using 2 gb and it is enough for me. though i can buy a non-hc 4 gb mini sd if i can find one cheap.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on March 02, 2013, 02:24 AM
well, well

we KIND OF NEED JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!  ::)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 02, 2013, 05:05 PM
well, well

we KIND OF NEED JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!  ::)

my jag console is mint in box and needs it lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: darkfalzx on March 06, 2013, 03:11 AM
Jaguar SOOOO needs an Everdrive! No, seriously! There are near perfect emulators in existence for most consoles mentioned here as needing a flash cart. Jaguar, however - has no emulation worth a damn (there are currently 2 emulators out there that run Jag games. One has been last updated in 2004 and the other is incredibly slow, clunky and incompatible).
Jag might've not been a best-selling console, but it still has an extremely loyal following who will gladly buy the shit out of an EverJag: )
List of cool things about Jag:
68k CPU! (I heard Krikzz likes it: )
Nifty dev community
The CD addon doesn't seem to have any hardware in it aside from the drive itself and a bios ROM, and can probably be simulated! Wouldn't it be awesome to run JagCD games from the same cart?!

 
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 06, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jaguar SOOOO needs an Everdrive! No, seriously! There are near perfect emulators in existence for most consoles mentioned here as needing a flash cart. Jaguar, however - has no emulation worth a damn (there are currently 2 emulators out there that run Jag games. One has been last updated in 2004 and the other is incredibly slow, clunky and incompatible).
Jag might've not been a best-selling console, but it still has an extremely loyal following who will gladly buy the shit out of an EverJag: )
List of cool things about Jag:
68k CPU! (I heard Krikzz likes it: )
Nifty dev community
The CD addon doesn't seem to have any hardware in it aside from the drive itself and a bios ROM, and can probably be simulated! Wouldn't it be awesome to run JagCD games from the same cart?!
jag ED with CD support...dreamy :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on March 07, 2013, 10:25 PM
i wonder just how possible the idea of running jag cd games from a flash cart is though? if possible it would be great. three problems with the jag cd addon as far as i can see.

1. it is very expensive these days.
2. is very expensive and will probably break if it works in the first place (i've seen lots of threads about how crappy the cd drive is and i've also seen the AVGN episode in which james explains just how crappy it is and it don't work, he then pretends to use it as a toilet lol)
3. did i mention how expensive it is these days.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on March 08, 2013, 10:03 PM
It seems to me that the Jaguar CD should be the easiest to fake of all CD add-ons released. As far as the BIOS goes, you have a jump table at $3000 in the 68000 space that handles all commands from the CD program. From a hardware point of view, the JagCD has one chip that allows the 68000 to send commands to the CD, and receive status info. When the CD needs to send data or CDDA samples, it sends them through I2S to Jerry, who either dumps the data to ram, or scales the CDDA samples with the volume setting and sends them out the I2S to the DAC. It seems to me this would be easier to do than half of all the other Everdrives. :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 08, 2013, 10:25 PM
so its possible for a jaguar everdrive then chilly willy? cant be more complex than the other everdrives surely :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on March 08, 2013, 10:47 PM
so its possible for a jaguar everdrive then chilly willy? cant be more complex than the other everdrives surely :)

The only "tough" part would be allowing the ED to not just DMA the sector data to ram in the cart (for loading, etc, like most of the SDs do these days), but to allow it to DMA across I2S, and that's not that tough. I2S is a common and simple synchronous serial interface. The rest can be handled by the appropriate 68000 code in the emulated BIOS. Instead of the 68000 sending commands to the CD, it does SD commands instead... or maybe sends the commands to Jerry to do the SD commands for it. I like the idea of using Jerry to handle the ED interface as well - it would be faster, and allow you to do less on the 68000 side, which means more time for doing other things.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 08, 2013, 10:51 PM
so its possible for a jaguar everdrive then chilly willy? cant be more complex than the other everdrives surely :)

The only "tough" part would be allowing the ED to not just DMA the sector data to ram in the cart (for loading, etc, like most of the SDs do these days), but to allow it to DMA across I2S, and that's not that tough. I2S is a common and simple synchronous serial interface. The rest can be handled by the appropriate 68000 code in the emulated BIOS. Instead of the 68000 sending commands to the CD, it does SD commands instead... or maybe sends the commands to Jerry to do the SD commands for it. I like the idea of using Jerry to handle the ED interface as well - it would be faster, and allow you to do less on the 68000 side, which means more time for doing other things.
sounds very interesting and very do-able, im sure krikzz could acomplish the first ever no-nonesense flashcart for the jaguar :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on March 08, 2013, 11:02 PM
no-nonsense flashcart... i like that lol, classic. i see what you mean though because the other flashcarts for jaguar are pants so we need a no-nonsense approach.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on March 09, 2013, 11:06 PM
Just a quick update on the Everdrive poll. So far the Gameboy Everdrive would seem to be the most requested, not really surprising ^^

Remember. It's only made for the curiosity and isn't associated with Krikzz or his projects.

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/vote.png)

You can cast your vote here. (http://poll.pollcode.com/tbhf1q)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: deksar on March 09, 2013, 11:38 PM
And one more vote goes to Game Boy/Colour Everdrive, from me.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 10, 2013, 01:29 AM
i would love to see a GB/GBC ED, but first a jaguar ED :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on March 10, 2013, 02:39 AM
A Jaguar Everdrive would probably be made of higher quality components than the Jaguar itself. I'd honestly feel bad for a Jaguar Everdrive, destined to play nothing but games that are less fun than dust.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on March 10, 2013, 02:46 AM
How about an Odyssey Everdrive? xD
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on March 10, 2013, 03:29 AM
Or Fairchild Channel F Everdrive.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 10, 2013, 09:17 AM
A Jaguar Everdrive would probably be made of higher quality components than the Jaguar itself. I'd honestly feel bad for a Jaguar Everdrive, destined to play nothing but games that are less fun than dust.
jag games arent the greatest i kno lol but theres definitely a market for a jaguar ED
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 10, 2013, 10:39 AM
Or Fairchild Channel F Everdrive.
a wa??? neva heard of it, perhaps it was before my time..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 10, 2013, 10:41 AM
How about an Odyssey Everdrive? xD
another unknown console to me..im guessin before my time aswell lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on March 11, 2013, 01:23 AM
Just so we all are on the same page:
http://videogamecritic.com/
http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com/

the first is fun as hell, some of the reviews make me crack, but it has a pretty comprehensive list of mainstream consoles.
The second has a good list of all the consoles by decade, with pictures and game samples as well.

Anyway if Krikzz cares he can build carts for a lot of those early systems, like 70s or 80s, but for the 90s there's not much left (Jaguar, Neo Geo AES/MVS, Capcom CPS Changer, Super A'can seems to be the short list) given that SNES and N64 are already done.

The 70's and 80's have more systems that could use a flash cart, but most of them are either obscure or too niche to make economic sense.

Me personally, not being a handheld fan, I vote Jag although I already own the few games I care to play (and it's a short list). AES/MVS seems a lot of fun to do too although the consoles are still expensive, I do own a NeoGeo CD and although slowloading (SNK royally screwed that one) I enjoy quite a few titles so if there was a NeoGeoED for the AES/MVS I'd probably consider it.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: stonie on March 11, 2013, 09:36 PM
i voted saturn cuz it has a cartridge slot and it had some badass security to it, it would be a feat for sure
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on March 13, 2013, 09:16 AM
JAGUAR.JAGUAR ,JAGUAR !!  >:(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on March 13, 2013, 03:41 PM


I would prefer that
Krikzz focus more on current projects as they still have a lot of potential, both software and hardware
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ZM88 on March 14, 2013, 01:14 AM
Add me to the gameboy vote...BTW anyone know how the Gameboy advance knows which software (GB, GBC, GBA) it happens to be running? Is it an internal switch or does the bio handle it?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on March 14, 2013, 08:19 AM
GB/GBC difference is done by header. GBA is done by an internal mechanical switch.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 17, 2013, 02:26 AM
i reckon jag should be the next everdrive, personally i would have a rest from mapper hell and avoid going into another mapper crazyness like gb/gbc, sumat simple like jaguar would be a breeze for krikzz
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on March 17, 2013, 05:05 PM
Unlike Famicom/NES there won't be a mapper hell because there's not so many mappers for GB/GBC.

Here's all mappers the KiGB emulator supports: MBC1, MBC2, MBC3, MBC5, MBC6, MBC7, HuC1, HuC3, Rocket and MMM01. A Real Time Clock is needed for MBC2 though and there's more than just one game that needs it. Then there's some games that has a built-in rumble pak and at least one game (Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble) that has an accelerometer in the cartridge. The Real Time Clock is probably more important however.

I voted for GB/GBC because it's the biggest console with tons of great games that there's still no good flash cart with SD card support yet. Besides I want to play it in a Super Gameboy and N64 Transfer Pak with Everdrive 64.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 17, 2013, 08:33 PM
at least theres sumat decent for gb/gbc at the mo (64m usb smart card is a proper flash cart) so what if its not sd but its excellent for what it is and for the price, as for RTC its gonna have to be a dream (ED64 could have done with one for animal forest) i voted the jag cos theres no PROPER flash cart for it (dont even mention skunk cos its a piece of trash and not worth the mention)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on March 17, 2013, 08:51 PM
i don't think RTC is necessary for gb/gbc everdrive. afaik it is mainly used in pokemon gold/silver/crystal not much with anything else.

again rumble might be hard.

also compability with N64 transfer pak is hard. the everdrive must be able to stop the multimenu running for achieving that.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 17, 2013, 09:53 PM
i don't think RTC is necessary for gb/gbc everdrive. afaik it is mainly used in pokemon gold/silver/crystal not much with anything else.

wasnt it the pokemon games that sold the gbc (and there was quite a few) in the UK i remember it sellin out in shops like crazy, with that in mind would there be a market for a gb/gbc everdrive if it cant run pokemon games?

EDIT: yup pokemon games was deffo best sellers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Game_Boy_video_games

its about time we had a atari everdrive...jaguar seems the obvious choice!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on March 17, 2013, 11:13 PM
at least theres sumat decent for gb/gbc at the mo (64m usb smart card is a proper flash cart) so what if its not sd but its excellent for what it is and for the price, as for RTC its gonna have to be a dream (ED64 could have done with one for animal forest) i voted the jag cos theres no PROPER flash cart for it (dont even mention skunk cos its a piece of trash and not worth the mention)
SD isn't so important but compatibility is. Many GBA flash carts had RTC and even SD2SNES has one even though there's only like one game that uses it. N64 is a smaller market so one RTC game might not be enough.
There's at least one flash cart for GB/GBC with RTC but its production has stopped long ago and now it's next to impossible to find.

i don't think RTC is necessary for gb/gbc everdrive. afaik it is mainly used in pokemon gold/silver/crystal not much with anything else.

again rumble might be hard.

also compability with N64 transfer pak is hard. the everdrive must be able to stop the multimenu running for achieving that.
RTC is used for Harvest Moon GB as well. Besides I think Pokemon is reason enough.

Rumble is just a matter of space and cost.

For the N64 transfer pak it could be possible if there's an option to boot into a game directly and skipping the menu or something.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Relikk on March 18, 2013, 04:03 PM
I'm not seeing the point in developing a Jag cart. Awful console with rubbish games. It'd also make far more business sense to develop a better alternative to the GB 64m.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on March 18, 2013, 06:14 PM
i agree that the jaguar aint a great console by all means but the fact is it does have a dedicated fan base. also because there are exclusive games that are very rare and expensive to track down would make it an essential item for a lot of game collectors like myself.
 i just purchased the usb 64 gameboy cart myself it seems pretty decent but eventually a more modern sd cart with everdrive quality would be great. i purchased the 64m one before they become obsolete and also the possibility that if krikzz decides not to make a gb everdrive period at least i will have the 64m cart.
 i'm sure collectors and jaguar fans would be happy even with a cart that functions to the ability of the gb 64m cart, the sad truth is the best flash cart on the jaguar is the skunkboard and it is a nightmare. i refused to buy one when i had the chance after reading more into it. not only that but from what chilly willy was saying the jaguar flashcart would be rather easy to make compared to some other projects and probably a project that krikzz could complete rather quickly.
 if there is a worry about lack of sales for jaguar cart maybe it would be a good idea to take pre orders for the carts in advance just to see how many people would be willing to buy one before before starting the project.
 i know for me and some others here a jag everdrive would be a dream come true but remember there are lots of hardcore jaguar fans that don't reside on these forums and once word gets out of a awesome jag everdrive cart there will be interest imo.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 18, 2013, 09:14 PM
I'm not seeing the point in developing a Jag cart. Awful console with rubbish games. It'd also make far more business sense to develop a better alternative to the GB 64m.
ur the only one that cant see the point....it was a good system for its time, and now its a HIGHLY HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER CONSOLE, rare and expensive to buy a decent conditioned boxed one, AVP is one of the best games ever made how can u say its rubbish? atari karts is a awesome racer...rubbish????? ur kiddin right????
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 18, 2013, 09:23 PM
@butfluffy there are hundreds of jag owners like myself out there waiting for a proper flash cart, i would buy one in a heart beat, chilly willy mentioned sumat about some new homebrew development for jag on the horizon so i reckon coders would lap up a jag ED, we need a jag everdrive in the family to mix it up a bit, krikzz has loadsa sega and nintendo flash carts under his belt, its time we saw atari make a everdrive debut and it makes sense to see a jag flash cart to blow skunk and the other cart (i forgot the name of it) out the frame, long live everdrive!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on March 18, 2013, 09:53 PM
that's why i concede that it ain't a great console but the few gems in the game library make it a decent addition for collectors. i'm kinda surprised just how many people are very dedicated to the jaguar scene even after all these years. i agree that AVP is really good. for it's time it was amazing. unfortunately i ain't been able to try atari karts. that's one of the rare titles i would liked to have played but is a little too expensive. i was always planning on getting it one day when if ever i have the cash left over to blow. breakout 2000 is another one i always wanted.
 i have a little library of games for it though with a few harder to find titles.

ALIEN VS PREDATOR.
ATTACK OF THE MUTANT PENGUINS.
BUBSY FRACTURED FURRY TALES.
CHECKERED FLAG.
CLUB DRIVE.
CYBERMORPH.
DEFENDER 2000.
EVOLUTION DINO DUDES.
FLIP OUT.
IRON SOLDIER.
KASUMI NINJA.
MISSILE COMMAND 3D.
RUINER PINBALL.
TEMPEST 2000.
THEME PARK.
TREVOR MCFUR IN THE CRESCENT GALAXY.
VAL D'ISERE SKIING AND SNOWBOARDING.
WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP.
ZOOL 2.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on March 18, 2013, 10:32 PM
You're making good points. There's always a point in making a flash cart to a console if it's possible no matter how obscure it is.

That said, all consoles has rare games and I personally would prefer if the IMO best consoles like Gameboy and Neo Geo would be covered first. Though I heard Neo Geo could be tricky.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 18, 2013, 11:44 PM
as good as the gameboy is theres no urgent need for another nintendo flash cart yet as for neo geo i think its gonna cost way too much too produce and the console itself is stupidly expensive just for a handfull of fighting games and metal slug games  :o
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 19, 2013, 12:04 AM
@butfluffy i have a few games

ALIEN VS PREDATOR
DOOM
WOLFENSTEIN 3D
CYBERMORPH
KASUMI NINJA
IRON SOLDIER
THEME PARK
EVOLUTION DINO DUDES

i like the jag console some ppl should broaden there collection and not just stick to sega and nintendo
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on March 19, 2013, 01:18 AM
The problem isn't narrow-mindedness. There's just so many other non-Nintendo/Sega systems I would buy before I would buy a Jaguar. Like Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket Color, PSP, MSX2, Sharp X68000 and more.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on March 19, 2013, 01:23 AM
i was gonna pick up 2 games you have, doom and wolfenstein 3d. another game i was tempted to buy was powerdrive but i've been busy collecting everdrives and other gaming stuff since last september. i have those mentioned 3 games on a few other formats aswell. superior versions of doom and wolfensteen 3d on ps3 and 360. though the jag doom looked a great port for it's time. i've played powerdrive on the snes aswell but i heard the jag version is better.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 19, 2013, 06:14 AM
The problem isn't narrow-mindedness. There's just so many other non-Nintendo/Sega systems I would buy before I would buy a Jaguar. Like Wonderswan, Neo Geo Pocket Color, PSP, MSX2, Sharp X68000 and more.

aint being funny but most those systems are garbage only thing that made it in the UK while i was growin up was psp, ngpc was a horrible system that was a fail and never sold in the UK, can pick one up for around 20 quid on ebay almost new lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on March 19, 2013, 02:02 PM
In your opinion maybe. In my opinion they are all more interesting than the Jag. Not saying I would never buy a Jag though.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 19, 2013, 07:18 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Relikk on March 19, 2013, 10:10 PM
ur kiddin right????

No, no I'm not.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on March 20, 2013, 06:44 AM
I'd be interested in buying an N64 Everdrive Controller Pak.  A Controller Pak with a built in sd card slot to hold all my game saves...I'd buy four (4) of them if it functioned properly.


Better yet, I'd be interested in buying four (4) modified n64 rumble paks with built in (micro) sd card slot to double as a controller pak....with no need for switches...it could be automated where needed.

kl

You're aware that the Everdrive 64 can dump and load controller pak images as files onto its SD card, yes?
I'm not sure a simultaneous Rumble Pack/Controller Pack is possible due to the way it's implemented in games.

Also...
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=284.0
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: darkfalzx on March 21, 2013, 07:33 AM
Jaguar Everdrive all the way guys!
Also, not sure if everyone caught what ChillyWilly sort of confirmed a few pages back - JagED could conceivably simulate Jag CD without much difficulty, as that add-on had very little hardware in it besides a disk drive and a bios chip. Since a real working Jag CD is virtually impossible to come by in this day and age at a reasonable price - I believe this could indeed be awesome!
The first ED ever to not only eliminate need for cartridge-swapping, but also the need for an expensive and unreliable add-on module!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 21, 2013, 11:28 AM
Jaguar Everdrive all the way guys!
Also, not sure if everyone caught what ChillyWilly sort of confirmed a few pages back - JagED could conceivably simulate Jag CD without much difficulty, as that add-on had very little hardware in it besides a disk drive and a bios chip. Since a real working Jag CD is virtually impossible to come by in this day and age at a reasonable price - I believe this could indeed be awesome!
The first ED ever to not only eliminate need for cartridge-swapping, but also the need for an expensive and unreliable add-on module!
well said, i think krikzz could achieve that without much hassle
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RickyKustafason on March 21, 2013, 04:36 PM
I always wondered if a Saturn ed was possible...I mean those modchips plugs right in-line with the drive cable...seems like an everdrive could manage it somehow.

But then again I have no idea about such things  :P

A Jaguar ed would be cool...too bad about the library haha ;D (yes I used to own one when they came out - and jag-cd)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on March 21, 2013, 06:24 PM
Jaguar Everdrive all the way guys!
Also, not sure if everyone caught what ChillyWilly sort of confirmed a few pages back - JagED could conceivably simulate Jag CD without much difficulty, as that add-on had very little hardware in it besides a disk drive and a bios chip. Since a real working Jag CD is virtually impossible to come by in this day and age at a reasonable price - I believe this could indeed be awesome!
The first ED ever to not only eliminate need for cartridge-swapping, but also the need for an expensive and unreliable add-on module!

I've never used a Jaguar, but I've been reading up on it, as I'm thinking of adding another cartridge based system to my console collection (partly because it has the one AvP first person shooter that I've never played, and partly because I don't own any Atari consoles yet), and I read at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar_CD

"The device sat atop the Jaguar console, snapping very firmly into the ROM cartridge slot". Wouldn't this make a Jaguar Everdrive more complex than existing Everdrives, at least as far as the hardware goes, since a Jaguar Everdrive would need both two connectors; one on the bottom to connect it to the Jaguar, and one on the top so it could have the CD drive plugged into the Everdrive?

Maybe this would be a very minor thing to address, I don't know. Either way, a Jaguar Everdrive would be very interesting, as would a new Everdrive for any system.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on March 22, 2013, 02:46 AM
Jaguar Everdrive all the way guys!
Also, not sure if everyone caught what ChillyWilly sort of confirmed a few pages back - JagED could conceivably simulate Jag CD without much difficulty, as that add-on had very little hardware in it besides a disk drive and a bios chip. Since a real working Jag CD is virtually impossible to come by in this day and age at a reasonable price - I believe this could indeed be awesome!
The first ED ever to not only eliminate need for cartridge-swapping, but also the need for an expensive and unreliable add-on module!

I've never used a Jaguar, but I've been reading up on it, as I'm thinking of adding another cartridge based system to my console collection (partly because it has the one AvP first person shooter that I've never played, and partly because I don't own any Atari consoles yet), and I read at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar_CD

"The device sat atop the Jaguar console, snapping very firmly into the ROM cartridge slot". Wouldn't this make a Jaguar Everdrive more complex than existing Everdrives, at least as far as the hardware goes, since a Jaguar Everdrive would need both two connectors; one on the bottom to connect it to the Jaguar, and one on the top so it could have the CD drive plugged into the Everdrive?

Maybe this would be a very minor thing to address, I don't know. Either way, a Jaguar Everdrive would be very interesting, as would a new Everdrive for any system.

The idea is to make the JagCD unnecessary. The cart itself would be able to replace the CD, allowing running CD games from the SD card. All that is needed is I2S support along with a replacement BIOS.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on March 23, 2013, 12:03 AM

The idea is to make the JagCD unnecessary. The cart itself would be able to replace the CD, allowing running CD games from the SD card. All that is needed is I2S support along with a replacement BIOS.

Doh! Just re-read what you wrote on page seventeen - I thought you were talking about the Jaguar CD being so easy to emulate if you keep the CD unit plugged in, but re-reading it I see you didn't say that at all. My fault for skipping through it.

 :-[
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: mattmayatt on March 25, 2013, 02:16 PM
I'd love to see an Atari Jaguar ED , lots of the games for the Jaguar are very expensive plus the jag has not really been emulated that well
 I think this is why there is a good case for a Jaguar ED over some of the other consoles people have talked about , take the wondeswan , ngpc , neogeo etc these consoles are pretty well emulated on many other platforms like android, PC, Mac, IOS, wii , Xbox, but the Jaguar has virtually 0 emulation.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on March 26, 2013, 08:19 AM
I compiled a little list of cartridge based console without flash card with approx unique game count (all info from http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com)
(apologies for the crappy alignement)

Console:   Magnavox Odyssey            GameCount:   28
Console:   Fairchild Channel F            GameCount:   26
Console:   Atari 2600               GameCount:   418
Console:   Bally  \ Astrocade            GameCount:   49
Console:   Magnavox Odyssey 2         GameCount:   62
Console:   Mattel Intellivision            GameCount:   125+
Console:   ColecoVision               GameCount:   144
Console:   Emerson Arcadia 2001         GameCount:   45
Console:   Vectrex                  GameCount:   28
Console:   Atari 5200               GameCount:   69
Console:   Casio PV-1000               GameCount:   15
Console:   Sega SG-1000               GameCount:   47
Console:   Atari 7800                GameCount:   59
Console:   Atari XEGS                GameCount:   32
Console:   Commodore 64 C64GS         GameCount:   28
Console:   SNK Neo Geo AES            GameCount:   117
Console:   Amstrad GX4000            GameCount:   27
Console:   Atari Jaguar               GameCount:   55
Console:   Funtech Super A'Can         GameCount:   12


It's slim picking for a new Everdrive, if any!!! Any other Everdrive is for a console with at least 300+ games.
I suspect that portables are the most lilkely next target (GB, GBA, DS) as they have the most games and likely the widest audience to sell to.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 26, 2013, 05:47 PM
gb,gbc,gba,ds have already been covered, the amount of ds flashcarts already out there is ridiculous beyond belief..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on March 26, 2013, 08:22 PM
The Jaguar has 67 carts, and 15 CDs. I'm a bit surprised by how low the early console counts are - other than the 2600, consoles competing against it have very few games.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on March 26, 2013, 08:58 PM
I compiled a little list of cartridge based console without flash card with approx unique game count (all info from http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com)
(apologies for the crappy alignement)

Console:   Magnavox Odyssey            GameCount:   28
Console:   Fairchild Channel F            GameCount:   26
Console:   Atari 2600               GameCount:   418
Console:   Bally  \ Astrocade            GameCount:   49
Console:   Magnavox Odyssey 2         GameCount:   62
Console:   Mattel Intellivision            GameCount:   125+
Console:   ColecoVision               GameCount:   144
Console:   Emerson Arcadia 2001         GameCount:   45
Console:   Vectrex                  GameCount:   28
Console:   Atari 5200               GameCount:   69
Console:   Casio PV-1000               GameCount:   15
Console:   Sega SG-1000               GameCount:   47
Console:   Atari 7800                GameCount:   59
Console:   Atari XEGS                GameCount:   32
Console:   Commodore 64 C64GS         GameCount:   28
Console:   SNK Neo Geo AES            GameCount:   117
Console:   Amstrad GX4000            GameCount:   27
Console:   Atari Jaguar               GameCount:   55
Console:   Funtech Super A'Can         GameCount:   12


It's slim picking for a new Everdrive, if any!!! Any other Everdrive is for a console with at least 300+ games.
I suspect that portables are the most lilkely next target (GB, GBA, DS) as they have the most games and likely the widest audience to sell to.

Not sure where you got your info, but several of those systems have flash carts or multicarts readily available.

- Arcadia - http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/189779-arcadia-2001-multicart-2011-version-any-interest/
- Astrocade - http://www.ballyalley.com/documentation/multicarts/multicart_(GaMBITS)/UltiMulti_Version_1_5_1.pdf
- Atari 2600 - http://harmony.atariage.com/
- Atari 5200 - http://atarimax.com/5200sd/documentation/index.html
- Atari XEGS - http://atarimax.com/flashcart/documentation/
- Channel F - http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/149932-fs-fairchild-system-channel-f-multi-cart-pre-order-now/
- Colecovision - http://atarimax.com/colecosd/documentation/index.html
- Odyssey 2 - http://www.classicgamecreations.com/multi.html
- Vectrex - http://vectrex.biz

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RickyKustafason on March 26, 2013, 09:56 PM
I compiled a little list of cartridge based console without flash card with approx unique game count (all info from http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com)
(apologies for the crappy alignement)

Console:   Magnavox Odyssey            GameCount:   28
Console:   Fairchild Channel F            GameCount:   26
Console:   Atari 2600               GameCount:   418
Console:   Bally  \ Astrocade            GameCount:   49
Console:   Magnavox Odyssey 2         GameCount:   62
Console:   Mattel Intellivision            GameCount:   125+
Console:   ColecoVision               GameCount:   144
Console:   Emerson Arcadia 2001         GameCount:   45
Console:   Vectrex                  GameCount:   28
Console:   Atari 5200               GameCount:   69
Console:   Casio PV-1000               GameCount:   15
Console:   Sega SG-1000               GameCount:   47
Console:   Atari 7800                GameCount:   59
Console:   Atari XEGS                GameCount:   32
Console:   Commodore 64 C64GS         GameCount:   28
Console:   SNK Neo Geo AES            GameCount:   117
Console:   Amstrad GX4000            GameCount:   27
Console:   Atari Jaguar               GameCount:   55
Console:   Funtech Super A'Can         GameCount:   12


It's slim picking for a new Everdrive, if any!!! Any other Everdrive is for a console with at least 300+ games.
I suspect that portables are the most lilkely next target (GB, GBA, DS) as they have the most games and likely the widest audience to sell to.

Not sure where you got your info, but several of those systems have flash carts or multicarts readily available.

- Arcadia - http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/189779-arcadia-2001-multicart-2011-version-any-interest/
- Astrocade - http://www.ballyalley.com/documentation/multicarts/multicart_(GaMBITS)/UltiMulti_Version_1_5_1.pdf
- Atari 2600 - http://harmony.atariage.com/
- Atari 5200 - http://atarimax.com/5200sd/documentation/index.html
- Atari XEGS - http://atarimax.com/flashcart/documentation/
- Channel F - http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/149932-fs-fairchild-system-channel-f-multi-cart-pre-order-now/
- Colecovision - http://atarimax.com/colecosd/documentation/index.html
- Odyssey 2 - http://www.classicgamecreations.com/multi.html
- Vectrex - http://vectrex.biz

Yes that is a good point.  Personally I would like a Saturn one (not even sure how that would ever work though), but I think the NeoGeo or the Jaguar would be the most likely and/or straightforward to develop a new everdrive for.  But who knows?  It is fun to speculate though ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on March 27, 2013, 01:10 AM
Right now, I think the voting is mostly GB/GBC, followed by Jaguar. While I would rather see a Jaguar ED first (JED... heheheh), KRIKzz will work on whatever strikes his fancy next. Maybe he'll surprise us all with a Microvision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microvision) ED. ;) :D

I have one of those...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: mattmayatt on March 27, 2013, 12:45 PM
An Amstrad gx4000 ED would be fantastic as getting hold of the cartridges are really hard and expensive.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on March 29, 2013, 10:45 PM
Do we have any word as to what Krikzz is working on now that the NES is finished?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RickyKustafason on March 30, 2013, 01:03 AM
Do we have any word as to what Krikzz is working on now that the NES is finished?

The NES is finished??  I have been waiting for that...where did you hear it?  I still can't order an NES from retrogate, just famicom.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on March 30, 2013, 04:20 AM
Supposedly, they're the same thing. I haven't really looked into it, as I'm mainly interested in the ED64, and a GBA/GBC Flash Cart, should that second one be made.

I'd definitely buy a GBA Flash Cart. The only reason I feel one needs to be made by Krikzz is the fact that the highest capacity card that you can (rarely) get right now is a 2GB, I'm looking for something to store a full ROM set on, which would require, at a minimum, 16GB capacity.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: stonie on March 30, 2013, 05:17 AM
i'm pretty sure gba carts that take sd cards are out there they jsut might be harder to find now
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on March 30, 2013, 05:32 AM
i'm pretty sure gba carts that take sd cards are out there they jsut might be harder to find now
I've seen them before, such as the EZ-Flash IV. However, most only support up to 2GB SD cards.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 30, 2013, 10:07 AM
i'm pretty sure gba carts that take sd cards are out there they jsut might be harder to find now
I've seen them before, such as the EZ-Flash IV. However, most only support up to 2GB SD cards.
i have a EZflashIV, there is also supercard.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on March 30, 2013, 01:55 PM
i'm pretty sure gba carts that take sd cards are out there they jsut might be harder to find now
I've seen them before, such as the EZ-Flash IV. However, most only support up to 2GB SD cards.
i have a EZflashIV, there is also supercard.
I had never heard of supercard before. However, when I looked it up, there was still a  2GB limitation.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on March 30, 2013, 10:20 PM
There are tons of GBA flash carts still out. The Supercard, the EZFlash, and all the NeoFlash carts. That's actually what the Myth series is - an adapter that allows you to use a GBA flash cart on another console. While you could theoretically use any GBA flash cart, the menus only support the NeoFlash GBA carts (for obvious reasons ;) ).

People aren't looking for a GBA cart, but a GB/GBC cart, which is not the same thing.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 01, 2013, 05:58 PM
so...i have been reading through the posts and out the 3 main consoles left (jaguar, neo geo, gb/gbc) its looking more likely gonna be the jaguar everdrive  ;D
 
krikzz said

"i will never work over NeoGeo"

"i made a prototype for gb/gbc, but total power consumption was twice more than with original cart, so i decide not touch gameboy and switch to nes"

"May be i will make a toy for jag"
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: stonie on April 01, 2013, 10:12 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/9962_631900800159664_1746937518_n.jpg)

from stoneagegamer, lmao
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 02, 2013, 01:24 AM
the ever-zone? april fools joke?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: stonie on April 02, 2013, 02:04 AM
lol read the ad of course it is lol, besides with the ever name you'd htink we'd have alread yheard about it here i just found it funny
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 02, 2013, 06:23 AM
I don't know why a Jaguar Everdrive wouod be made before a Gb/GBC one. A Gb/GBC flashcart higher than 64mb is long overdue

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on April 02, 2013, 09:53 AM
dvd2vcd mentioned above that Krikzz has said he tried making a GB/C prototype, and it drew too much power to really work. Jaguar has a fair bit of support after it, and seems the easier one to make a cart for...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 02, 2013, 06:03 PM
I don't know why a Jaguar Everdrive wouod be made before a Gb/GBC one. A Gb/GBC flashcart higher than 64mb is long overdue

"i made a prototype for gb/gbc, but total power consumption was twice more than with original cart, so i decide not touch gameboy and switch to nes"

"May be i will make a toy for jag"

krikzz words, not mine :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 02, 2013, 06:36 PM
i'm all for jaguar everdrive next but i have stated before that the power consumption thing shouldn't be reason enough to not make a gb/gbc everdrive. a lot of people like myself will be playing gb/gbc on gamecube gameboy player and super gameboy adapters.
 also if you are intending on playing on handhelds would this power consumption issue matter if your gameboy was power hard plugged during play? i'm sure sacrificing gaming on the move would be a small price to pay for a gb/gbc everdrive.
 even taking into account what i just said i think jaguar everdrive would be best choice for next device simply because of the lack of a decent jag flash cart and the fact it supossed to be an easy flash cart to make :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 02, 2013, 07:02 PM
a lot of people like myself will be playing gb/gbc on gamecube gameboy player and super gameboy adapters.

true, but a gameboy is a console for on the move and iv always fancied a modded GB console with a backlit screen orange or blue, they look the biz :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 02, 2013, 11:54 PM
i don't know. the gameboy feels quite bulky by todays standards, i never owned an actual gameboy. after trying out a mates i remember thinking to myself... i don't fancy lugging this thing around when i'm out and about so i got myself a super gameboy when it was released.
 i may be biased though. i only play handheld on an actual handheld if there is no way of playing those games on a tv. i emulate game gear. used to play gba on my ds but hated the small screen so recently purchased a ezflash 4 and gameboy player for GC.
it's only ds and psp games that i have to play on an actual handheld. i did get component cables for my psp but for some reason after hooking it up the colours are a mess. gess my tv don't support it or something else i would play psp on the tv aswell.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 03, 2013, 12:35 AM
yh they are a bit on the bulky side, i got a gba sp model with the brighter screen, maybe i would be mad to buy a original gb.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 03, 2013, 10:58 AM
hey krikzz any chance of posting some pics or vids of your proto GB everdrive? providing you still have it :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on April 03, 2013, 01:06 PM
But playing on the good old DMG also has its benefits. The sound chip is quite different which is why chip musicians often prefer it for LSDJ. Also there's a special feeling of playing a game on that screen were everything becomes blurry whenever the screen is scrolling. ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on April 04, 2013, 10:10 PM
Another good thing about a Gameboy/Color Everdrive would be that there are many platforms on which it can be used.
Power consumption shouldn't really be much of an issiue unless you are playing on the original Gameboys/Pocket/Light/Color or the old GBA.

The GBA SP and GB micro can be recharged on the go if necessary and if you are using the Gameboy Player for the Gamecube, the Super Gameboy for the SNES or the RetroVision for the NES, then power consumption shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 04, 2013, 10:13 PM
i would gladly sacrifice half of my battery time of my gba sp for a gb/gbc everdrive
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 04, 2013, 10:29 PM
i would gladly sacrifice half of my battery time of my gba sp for a gb/gbc everdrive

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I concur - A GB/GBC everdrive is the obvious choice, no matter what the issues may be. For every good Jaguar game (which is saying a lot since I can only think of a few off the top of my head, but that's just me), I can think of 5-10 good GB/GBC games. Not to mention all the people into GB/GBC chip tunes that would love a flash cart larger than all the measly 64mb flash carts out there...

I understand people's issue with playing portable games on a home console, but I think I speak for myself and a lot of people that like the best of both worlds. I have a Super gameboy on my SNES playing on my 37" RGB/VGA monitor for home play, and GBA SP AGS-101 (aka frontlit screen).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 04, 2013, 11:18 PM
fair comments about the gb/gbc either way id use it on my ags-101 or thru adapter on snes, perhaps a multi cart with all the games loaded and ready to go would suit the jaguar seein as it only has a small amount of games anyway, maybe that is what krikzz meant when he said he would make a "toy for jag" who knows :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 05, 2013, 12:25 AM
i doubt krikzz would make a multi cart product with all the roms included good to go. there would be legal issues with such a device. the great thing with flash carts is imo the users responsibility what he/she decides to load on it.
 if the cart was pre loaded with roms then the "this device was designed for homebrew" excuse would be no more lol. not only that but it seems that a lot of people actually prefer using flash carts for new homebrew games and prototypes.
 however we look at it i think jaguar and gb/gbc seem to be most wanted and most realistic considering the other popular choice of neo geo is a very hard project that don't look like it will happen soon.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 05, 2013, 12:45 AM
fair comments about the gb/gbc either way id use it on my ags-101 or thru adapter on snes, perhaps a multi cart with all the games loaded and ready to go would suit the jaguar seein as it only has a small amount of games anyway, maybe that is what krikzz meant when he said he would make a "toy for jag" who knows :)

I sometimes play GB/GBC on my Gamecube and use my Hori gampad that is shaped like a SNES controller since It supports VGA rather than just RGB.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 05, 2013, 01:16 AM
horipad still isn't exactly shaped like snes though that doesn't mean i won't buy one if i find cheap. playing gb games on snes via super gameboy is great. snes controller is ultra ergonomic for playing and if you connect snes via RGB you get a very clear image in 240p.

gameboy games have 160x144 resolution and snes has 256x224 resolution, the border covers the rest.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 08, 2013, 11:31 PM
im lovin the hori pad looks lush :)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/OFFICIAL-HORI-CONTROLLER-GAMECUBE-BLACK-RARE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-RETRO-PAD-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqN,!jUFCYIB+J!jBQmnshLy8Q~~60_58.JPG)
i dunno about u guys but im excited to what the next everdrive might be :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 09, 2013, 12:06 AM
im lovin the hori pad looks lush :)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/OFFICIAL-HORI-CONTROLLER-GAMECUBE-BLACK-RARE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-RETRO-PAD-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqN,!jUFCYIB+J!jBQmnshLy8Q~~60_58.JPG)
i dunno about u guys but im excited to what the next everdrive might be :)

That's the pad I have, and I love it. Feels like a SNES pad.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Never on April 10, 2013, 10:38 AM
Ive read this thread back-to-back and the amount of times dvd2vcd said atari jaguar is ridiculous.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 10, 2013, 06:26 PM
Ive read this thread back-to-back and the amount of times dvd2vcd said atari jaguar is ridiculous.

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and ur point is? i already have a everdrive md, everdrive 64, turbo everdrive, everdrive n8, sd2snes, snes powerpak, ezflash4 (all sega and nintendo) whats wrong with wanting a flash cart for atari???
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on April 11, 2013, 02:05 AM
Ive read this thread back-to-back and the amount of times dvd2vcd said atari jaguar is ridiculous.

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and ur point is? i already have a everdrive md, everdrive 64, turbo everdrive, everdrive n8, sd2snes, snes powerpak, ezflash4 (all sega and nintendo) whats wrong with wanting a flash cart for atari???

I think that the primary issue is that you've simply said it so many times, that if Krik doesn't make one, it's of his own accord, and not because he doesn't think there's a demand for it.

And, let's be honest here, exactly how many Jaguar games are there? Hell, only about 250K consoles sold. The few 'Good' titles are few and far between (AvP, for instance).
So, the demand for a flash cart isn't too high for Jaguar, but it definitely outweighs some others.

Personally, (and I've said this before) if Krik made a GBA flash cart, I'd buy it immediately. I understand that there are already alternatives, such as the EZ Flash IV, but no cart currently supports SDHC, something that's required to have a full set on one cart.

The other thing that I'd be interested in seeing is a GB cart. I know that Krik tried making one before, and that it had 2x the normal power consumption, but I'm sure that there are ways to reduce power consumption of the cart.

Wanting a Jag cart is just fine. Just don't announce it on every page.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 11, 2013, 05:49 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 11, 2013, 08:52 PM
Well let's say an AMSTRAD GX4000 cart so...

And hello here, by the way :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 11, 2013, 09:41 PM
If any Atari system deserves an Everdrive, It should be 7800/2600 - Cuttle Cart 2's are rare and expensive. I know, I paid 400 for mine years ago...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on April 11, 2013, 09:54 PM
2600

There's already the Harmony cart for 2600.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 11, 2013, 10:47 PM
2600

There's already the Harmony cart for 2600.

Yea but if there was a 7800 everdrive, it would cover 7800 and 2600.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 11, 2013, 10:53 PM
the older atari systems i find very boring, quality of the games, the controller black joystick with 1 red button pmsl how the heck would u boot a reserve os on a everdrive for these systems lol xe/st/stfm(not consoles i know)/2600/7800 just boring  ??? why make a everdrive for boring systems?

my 2 cents

everdrives from nes > master system > onwards, anything before then is just boring..
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 11, 2013, 11:15 PM
dvd2vcd,

You would be surprised at how many people still play old Atari systems. New homebrews and hacks are constantly being developed.  I actually find many 2600 games entertaining (there is something strangely special about the lack of music, simple controls, and blocky graphics, and charm that is often dismissed by the overcomplicated games of today or even 90's). Of course, these games, while primitive compared to newer systems, still hold their value - but of course, if you appreciate them for what they are.

That's just my opinion ;D

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: wilykat on April 12, 2013, 03:48 AM
2600

There's already the Harmony cart for 2600.

Yea but if there was a 7800 everdrive, it would cover 7800 and 2600.

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There's Harmony 2 in the works for 7800: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/158374-harmony-cart-7800/

No need to do Everdrive on 7800 :/  I think Gameboy/GBC needs them as the flash card are hard to find and none can support SD for multiple ROMs.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 12, 2013, 11:26 AM
batari hasn't mentioned anything about harmony 2 since jan 2012 all he said was
"Yes... there is some hope. That's all I'm going to say!"

on a side note, harmony 2600 looks alright to be fair, not my kinda system tho but im sure devs luv it lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 12, 2013, 02:50 PM
Atari2600 was my first video game system in early 80s’.
So it still has a “special place” in my collection.
So I own an Harmony cartridge. It’s a really nice piece of hardware.
Yes, I didn’t spend much time playing with it… but I have it :) just as VecFlash, Lynx Flascard or Flashboy.

And there are some good people creating, developing such devices ; working night and day although they would never been know for that. Even for “boring systems”. They deserve some kind of recognition. And money.
Don't you think ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 12, 2013, 10:23 PM
the flash cart makers have my respect no doubt and they are the best devices i have ever come across in my life period, im not disrespectin flash cart makers at all, im just sayin that some systems are boring to me thats all, my first consoles i had bought me for my bday xmas prezzies was the master system and the nes, and yes some of my friends had 2600/7800 and i did play a few games with them but compared to the systems i had they soon got boring, no disrespect to any 2600/7800 owners here its jus my say :)

just for the record i was lookin on ebay for a 7800 system cos the harmony 2600 cart does look nice after a bit of youtubin'

erm...did u say u have a lynx flash card?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 02:25 AM
Yes, I have one, from Lynxman from AtariAge.
Here is the link to the thread:
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/159711-flashcard-information-and-news/ (if posting this link to another site goes against forum rules, you can delete it immediatly, Mr Admin)
Just like the Harmony cartridge, it's a tiny piece of harware.
Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 02:43 AM
that lynx card is awesome! i would buy one if only it had microSD  :'(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 11:22 AM
If i could say a few words about flashcards...
For me, they belong to a strange "world" or "community"... i can't find the exact word, with its rules and economy.
When a flashcard, for any system, pops up somewhere in the world or on the web, we never know how it will become.
I'll try to explain :

For exemple, Neo Myth card was one of the earlier N64 flashcard. A whole community was waiting for such a device. It was almost like Bigfoot, or Loch Ness monster... we had some clue for one in development but never released. I bought it as soon as it was available. 200$... such a amount, isn't it ? But at this time, it worth it. Obviously, now we have Everdrive64, a beautiful and useful hardware, Neo Myth appears odd and far too much complicated. And expensive.

Now, about Jaguar flashcard. Since you're always asking Krikzz for inventing this "fuck***-cool" device (i'm with you for this request ;), you should have heard about Skunkboard. I was too late to buy one, and now they ARE the Bigfoot of the flashcards. Most have seen, we have pics... but to get one is almost impossible.
And it's the same for Cuttle carts, Krokodile, etc...

So i bought devices like Tototek flashcards, or Lynx Flashcards, or Flashboy, or GB USB smart card. They don't have µSD slot, sometime they're somehow complicated to use, even to understand how to use (the Lynx flashcard for exemple).
But who can say how long they will last ? Or if there will be another device offering at least the same purpose ?
ANd they're still some flashcards that I want, like NeoGeo Pocket or Pokémon Mini. Not for playing, but just to see how it works, and enjoy the work of a genious-coder :)

And there are some other system without flashcards, like NeoGeo AES, or Microvision (there is a joke in this sentence, will you find it ?)
And some other deserve an optical drive replacement device, like Saturn or Playstation.
So many thing to invent. And so many to buy !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 12:05 PM
i know i keep buggin' about a everdrive for jag but this device is floating about somewhere, i dont know if its still in development or not but iv seen a few youtube vids about it from 2008 (some french game convention) anyway heres a pic they call it the jagware jagCF
(http://s24.postimg.org/6stz0udat/jagcf.jpg)
i apoligise if im annoying a few members on the forum about my jag fetish lol but it really would be a dream come true for me to own a jaguar everdrive :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on April 13, 2013, 12:35 PM
i apoligise if im annoying a few members on the forum about my jag fetish lol

Pretty sure your annoying EVERYONE on this forum with it. Taking a dump on someone for liking the 2600 is a pretty dick move too (I love the 2600 and if you don't see the point, keep it to yourself).

I also can't see it helping your case too much hounding Krikzz at every opportunity so pack it in. Doing so is probably more likely to make him NOT want to make a Jaguar Everdrive.

Might as well forget about the JagCF too, it's vaporware.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 13, 2013, 01:31 PM
@MockyLock:

agreed at all. i got my pokemon mini flash cart (it was hard). i don't think there will be any other flash cart and maker will probably not make new ones anymore. unfortunately it is the cheaper way to play some jap exclusives and the only way to play them in english in original hardware. there is only one jap game which isn't translated yet.

i have an ems 64 mb cart too, but i don't think they will go extinct soon as there is a demand because of chiptune musicians.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 03:01 PM
Taking a dump on someone for liking the 2600 is a pretty dick move
what the hell are you on about? when and who? proof please? iv never flamed anyone for liking a 2600, i had my opinion about the console not a member!!! and i certainly did not "take a dump" on anyone. i suggest you shut your trap, neg rep me and il neg rep you...simple as that boy!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 03:05 PM
I also can't see it helping your case too much hounding Krikzz at every opportunity so pack it in. Doing so is probably more likely to make him NOT want to make a Jaguar Everdrive.
who the hell are you to tell me to pack it in? 10 posts and you think your a moderator LMAO!! i aint hounding krikzz at all, i think you better stop with these stupid comments, your startin to do my head in already!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 03:21 PM
@reprep: you're prettyr lucky with your Pokécard ! If one day you wish to sell it... or if you spot one somewhere ?
@dvd2vcd: there was some other project like thisone for exemple : http://www.jagware.org/index.php?s=b31546eb20f5f5946c2b776544d79f92&showtopic=841&st=0&p=13159&#entry13159
But, well, id still don't have one !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 04:23 PM
i read that thread MockyLock, interesting :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on April 13, 2013, 04:51 PM
I also can't see it helping your case too much hounding Krikzz at every opportunity so pack it in. Doing so is probably more likely to make him NOT want to make a Jaguar Everdrive.
who the hell are you to tell me to pack it in? 10 posts and you think your a moderator LMAO!! i aint hounding krikzz at all, i think you better stop with these stupid comments, your startin to do my head in already!

Yeah and you have 668 posts begging for a Jaguar Everdrive  ::)

the older atari systems i find very boring, quality of the games, the controller black joystick with 1 red button pmsl how the heck would u boot a reserve os on a everdrive for these systems lol xe/st/stfm(not consoles i know)/2600/7800 just boring  ??? why make a everdrive for boring systems?

my 2 cents

everdrives from nes > master system > onwards, anything before then is just boring..

This is a quote from you to RGB_Gamer. It basically reads "The 2600 was shit, don't make me laugh, Jaguar..etc".

Look, keep it up, I'm sure someone will get tired of it and ban you sooner or later. I'm not going to derail this thread further by pandering to your inner troll. Clearly you don't need my help.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 13, 2013, 05:39 PM
@reprep: you're prettyr lucky with your Pokécard ! If one day you wish to sell it... or if you spot one somewhere ?
@dvd2vcd: there was some other project like thisone for exemple : http://www.jagware.org/index.php?s=b31546eb20f5f5946c2b776544d79f92&showtopic=841&st=0&p=13159&#entry13159
But, well, id still don't have one !

http://www.pokemon-mini.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2081#2081

have a look at that. remember that is a ver 1, the one i have and the most recent one is ver 2. there are some differences (no multi-rom menu support etc.) detailed on the forum.

i don't plan to sell mine even though i don't play it much lately. but i would gladly trade my flash cart for a backlit pokemon mini.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 06:07 PM
Thnak you for your link. I'vre read it and definitly I should find a rev2 for backup save, etc...
but thank you for helping me !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 06:54 PM
@retrorepair a troll is someone who says sumat to get a response, you had a dig at me, i responded, your the troll not me, all my posts are not aimed at a jaguar everdrive at all i own lots of flash carts and i own alot of consoles aswell, i just think your jelous thats why you had a dig at me  ::) anyway you are boring me to death, go crawl back under your bridge..troll
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 13, 2013, 06:57 PM
This is a quote from you to RGB_Gamer. It basically reads "The 2600 was shit, don't make me laugh, Jaguar..etc".
you obviously cant read, please go away troll
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on April 13, 2013, 08:07 PM
Yep, super jealous dude. Your way too cool for me ::)

Back on topic, I get the feeling a GB/GBC everdrive will be next. Power consumption is something that can probably be overcome, the demand is certainly there. If not, I'd be very interested to see what it would be since the mainstream consoles are pretty much taken care of now.

Maybe a CD based console? I don't think anyone is developing a Saturn CD replacement yet?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 13, 2013, 08:17 PM
krikkz said he is not interested in cd based consoles. but if he was, psx,dreamcast and saturn everdrives would be cool.

psx and dreamcast are relatively easy to find , but a modchipped,50/60 hz switched and region freed saturn is hard and costly to find. so my first vote would be for saturn.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 09:00 PM
Well reprep, i read -very quickly, i must admit- the modding for Pokemon Mini backlight.
If I understandwell, you ask me to build a backlihgt one, I trade it, aren't you ? ;)
Humm, that's pretty fair. I think the hard thing must be to find the screen.
You know what ? I'll try to study a bit more, and will see what is possible :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 13, 2013, 10:02 PM
Reprep,

I agree, and I am so happy I kept my chipped saturn with Action Replay 4in1. Perhaps a solution for Saturn can be made to where it plugs into the cartridge port...

As for Gb/GBC, maybe if Krikzz does make a flashcart for this, he could offer a separate battery pack (or maybe the cart itself could utilize an add on battery pack).

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 13, 2013, 10:06 PM
@MockyLock: i won't supply a pokemon mini, keep that in mind.
after you feel confident you can do it(or after building the thing whichever suits you.), PM me, to make the final deal to avoid any misunderstanding. this deal might or might not be valid at the time you do the backlit mode depending on how long it will take, so it would be great if you could pm me to have the confirmation.

@RGB-Gamer: my chipped saturn with an action replay 4in1 is coming in this week i hope. also a cartridge based solution for saturn would be great. though it might or might not be possible.

about the gb/gbc/gba everdrive, all gameboy series have good battery supply solutions. some original, some third party but they all work. so battery life isn't a big problem.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 10:14 PM
Hey reprep, no problem ! There is no "official" agree or deal. We were talking, that's all :)
If I can do the mod, and you're still intereted, we'll talk about. If not, i'll keep the stuff.
I like this kind of technical challenge :]
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 13, 2013, 10:26 PM
Hey reprep, no problem ! There is no "official" agree or deal. We were talking, that's all :)
If I can do the mod, and you're still intereted, we'll talk about. If not, i'll keep the stuff.
I like this kind of technical challenge :]

agreed, sorry if i offended you. i hold on to my promises, so didn't want to say the last word prematurely.

please inform me about your adventures on backlighting PM. it is easy to find the screen. siemens c60 if i don't remember wrong. you can buy broken ones and see if they have the right kind of screen.

there is also another way for backlighting which is superior to the explained method. http://agilo.acjs.net/?id=263

in the second mod, there isn't light-bleeding like in the first mod. all light distribute same.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 13, 2013, 11:31 PM
No offence at all.
Goal is to learn and become better about game and playing !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 13, 2013, 11:50 PM
the pokemon mini at agilo's blog was modded with EL foil. the problem is, it is nearly impossible now to find a small inverter that fits into pokemon mini. el lights need high AC voltage and an inverter is needed to convert low DC voltage.

http://www.myplace.nu/mp3/backlight.htm this was used for making, but unfortunately they don't sell anymore.

if you can find a small enough inverter or make one yourself from hv857 and fit it into pokemon mini, it would look much better than siemens c60's back-light.

i have searched but couldn't find a ready-to-use and small enough inverter.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 14, 2013, 11:13 AM
The screen in your last link looks like the Archos XS202 screen. I have one laying around, i should have a look for it.

EDIT: well, i talked a bit too much quickly. I dug my XS202 screen out my "electrnoics spare parts trashbin", but it's far too much large to fit in.
Too bad :/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 14, 2013, 02:05 PM
if it is lit by EL foil, it might be useful even if it is large. we won't use the screen, just el foil. if the inverter is small enough though.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Dingoolover on April 14, 2013, 05:10 PM
Dear Krikzz:

The Everdrive we are all waiting for is Atari JAGUAR Everdrive.  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 14, 2013, 06:02 PM
-_-
i think you didn't read the few last posts...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 14, 2013, 06:46 PM
The everdrive that most of us are waiting for, that makes the most sense, and is more overdue is GB/GBC

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 14, 2013, 10:24 PM
Well... Jaguar...GB/GBC
We alway see the same system for a new Everdrive. (hey, no offence ! we're speaking, that's all :)
Why not try something more... exotic ?
What about Microvision?
...
...
Well,  what about a NeoGeo flashcart ?
More seriously, NeoGeo is a good system, with a lot af very good games, for some pretty impossbile to find.
A good target for our genious.

But most of all, i think that the flashcart makers, whoever he is (krikzz or else) should and even must "love" the system they work onto.
You always do a better job when you have personal interest.

So the good question is not which everdrive krikzz will do, but which system he loves :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 14, 2013, 11:57 PM
Dear Krikzz:

The Everdrive we are all waiting for is Atari JAGUAR Everdrive.  ;)

+1  8)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 15, 2013, 12:20 AM
By the way, 'till how much would you , dvd2vcd, pay for such device ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 15, 2013, 05:25 AM
By the way, 'till how much would you , dvd2vcd, pay for such device ?
i would gladly pay $200  :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on April 15, 2013, 06:18 AM
Dvd, just to make sure you're aware of this;

From Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia:

"This is a list of 814 games released for the Game Boy handheld video game system."

"The number of games in this [GameBoy Color list] is 467"

"67 games were for the Atari Jaguar itself, 15 were for the Atari Jaguar CD, which gives a total of 82 games."

"This is a list of 85 games for the SNK Neo Geo Pocket Color handheld game system."

That ends the statistics from Wikipedia

"(In response to a question asking how many games there were for the GBA) Going by Nintendo.com Master List 755"

Just thought you should be aware of these numbers. IMO, I wouldn't pay $200 for a flash cart that could only hold 82 official games (And only if it emulates the CD function).

Going by a pure # of games standpoint (Disclaimer: I am not advocating this as the proper way to look at the value of a system), the GameBoy/GBC would be the best to work on an Everdrive for.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on April 15, 2013, 07:01 AM
I think it doesn't matter either number of games or popularity, given KRIKzz hobby is now growing into a respectable business it only makes sense to go about it based on business considerations.

The only systems that would make sense building an Everdrive for are the ones enough people are willing to buy if it is possible to develop them at the right price point. I personally found a tad high both the MegaED and SD2SNES given that in comparison to their cheaper albeit slower siblings for now they only offer say 10 more games.
That is to say that in my opinion something around 100$/120$ seems to be still within acceptable range of many buyers (man I did love the 80$ of both MasterED and TurboED, and 100$ for ED64 also was sweet, 110$ for N8 is still on the good side, 145$ MegaED starts pushing, and 190$ SD2SNES is definitely on the dark side).

Keep in mind that I am just talking about reasonable buying prices alone and not the technology, time and dedication put in these products which makes their production costs levitate quite a bit.

Anyway, obviously if a system has a very limited number of games maybe a full blown flash card is not that important, maybe an all in one is a better choice if cheaper and if it doesn't violate all the copyright laws.... yes there's homebrew but it's a niche and in term of business opportunities it does not make much sense in and on itself .... it never did, I do admit it is sometimes fun but boy do I wish that talented coders would spend their time into developing/porting games for more modern platforms rather than invest years in relatively obsolete clunkers.

As a consumer I would like to get an Everdrive for each of my preferred systems (insert here whatever system you like) just for the chance to get to play very expensive and hard to find games .... although let's admit it, normally the thrill lasts 10 mins total if that!!!
If it so happens that the system is one that KRIKzz loves and he wants to scratch that particular hitch then there may be hope even if it may not make sense as a business (I think the Everdrive GG fits this profile, KRIKzz could make one pretty easily given the similarity with SMS and he probably liked the system so here you have it) ... but given the fact KRIKzz has never told us what systems he likes that do not have an Everdrive yet then I would think he's probably taking a more business approach... or maybe not, maybe he is simply ironing the last kinks of the current batch and taking a well deserved break.

Now back to JaguarED vs GB/GBCED it comes down to numbers, it seems GB/GBC is more requested yet we do not know at what price and if KRIKzz even cares.
I really have no idea how long it takes to develop, prototype, test and finalize one of these babies. It seems KRIKzz can whip one out in 3 to 4 months .... which is impressive, one thing to say is that Jaguar and NeoGeo do not have "special chips/mappers" so it may be easier but it may not make business sense.

We'll see, it would be nice if KRIKzz himself would tell us which one he likes (even if he has no intention of developing an Everdrive), beside the Sega products, we already know he likes those likely because they were very very popular in east Europe (truth be told SMS and Megadrive were wildly popular in much of Europe but in the east part they enjoyed a much longer lifetime).
I was in Europe during that timeframe but my attention was all sucked up by the home computers of the time, C64/ZX Spectrum/MSX then Amiga/Atari ST so until the Sony PS1 (obviously we didn't know back them it was PS"1", we just called it Playstation) I pretty much jumped over the whole console craze past my initiation yesteryears with an Atari VCS 2600 (which I have no intention of collecting, with or without flash/SD card solution).

Peace out, and pssssh ... I believe dvd2vcd would like a JagED, but I am not sure, there have been one or two pages he missed so I now have some doubts ;-) ... just kidding, keep the flow going, if I wasn't reading the name of the posters I would think there's an army of JagED supporters ;-) (for the record I do have a Jaguar collecting dust and at 100$ I may consider buying a JagED if available, but your suggested 200$ price range is a little too much for my pockets)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Troyus on April 15, 2013, 09:32 AM
That's a great post. I was thinking the same, the jaguar does not have a high enough game library or install base IMO to make a everdrive worth the creators time.
Maybe the c64 or Atari 2600 would be good.

This is the only way to play neo geo games
(inserts pic of home mame arcade machine when I gets home)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: best4bond on April 15, 2013, 09:48 AM
You know, Krikzz probably doesnt have a Atari Jaguar, don't forget little were sold and I'm sure it's rarer where he lives then it is in the US. Also he probably wouldn't buy one just to make a flash cart on.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 15, 2013, 10:27 AM
That's a great post. I was thinking the same, the jaguar does not have a high enough game library or install base IMO to make a everdrive worth the creators time.
Maybe the c64 or Atari 2600 would be good.

This is the only way to play neo geo games
(inserts pic of home mame arcade machine when I gets home)

For now.
before the Neo Myth, emulators were for long the only way to play ROMs for N64 (except those very rare system like Doctor64, CD64 or Z64).
Maybe one day there will be a NeoGeo flashcard :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Egamercon on April 15, 2013, 02:04 PM
The c64 and Atari 2600 already have good flash carts,
The gb/gb color can be perfectly emulated on any open source handheld

I like to play on real hardware, but for hanhelds , convenience is all tha matters
There's a new flash cart out there for Lynx, and no one is buying it,
Because a cheap Dingoo can get near prefect lynx games.

Don't thing gg everdrive is selling well for the same reason

Neogeo would be awesome, but Krikzz hinted he's not up to the task

That leaves Jaguar Everdrive, it can be easily made,and would not need many upgrades as famicom,
Would sell in similar quantities than Pce Everdrive, a no brainer imho
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on April 15, 2013, 02:33 PM
nes can be emulated near perfectly on nearly all modern handheld and console systems. but that doesn't make everdrive N8 sell less, right?

i too think gamegear isn't selling well but that's not only for it can be emulated. it is nowhere common as gb/gbc, plus the surviving gamegears have many hardware problems. i am pretty sure if there ever will be a gb/gbc flash kart, it will sell better than gamegear.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Troyus on April 15, 2013, 06:00 PM
I meant the Neo geo is best to play on a arcade machine. Thats how I grew up playing them, the home consoles are not the same.
You can plug carts into the arcade machines in some cases so a everdrive neo geo would be pro in any neo geo arcade cabinet.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 15, 2013, 06:14 PM
@Gh0st, good post cant argue with ya there, krikzz did make a prototype GB/GBC everdrive, probably wouldnt take him long to iron the kinks out of it ready for retail, as for a jaguar everdrive im sure everyone over at atari age would support krikzz if he produced one, only takes one word and i know for a fact a jaguar everdrive would sell a hell of alot faster than the skunkboard ever did, it makes perfect buisness sense to make a jaguar everdrive, developers would love it, also the homebrew scene for jaguar is growing like wildfire,  i would gladly buy a GB/GBC everdrive, im excited for either, either way il be buying both, lets not forget krikzz said...

neogeo aes ED - no
GB/GBC ED - proto was made but drew too much power, went on to N8 from there
jaguar ED - maybe

im a big fan of krikzz, if it wasnt for him id still be using emulation, im forever gratefull for that :)

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 15, 2013, 06:21 PM
You know, Krikzz probably doesnt have a Atari Jaguar, don't forget little were sold and I'm sure it's rarer where he lives then it is in the US. Also he probably wouldn't buy one just to make a flash cart on.
i would gladly send him mine for testing :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 15, 2013, 06:24 PM
I believe dvd2vcd would like a JagED, but I am not sure, there have been one or two pages he missed so I now have some doubts ;-) ... just kidding
LOL  ;D +1
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 15, 2013, 10:29 PM
Hey, dvd2vcd, just to know, do you have a JaguarCD unit ?
It's a piece of harware still missing in my gaming room...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 15, 2013, 10:42 PM
I have a Jaguar CD system that actually works. I always thought how awesome it would be to burn a bunch of Jaguar ROMs to CD and load them on a flash cart - just like the MegaCart loads Megadrive/Genesis ROMs from VD to flash cart.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 16, 2013, 12:06 AM
Hey, dvd2vcd, just to know, do you have a JaguarCD unit ?
It's a piece of harware still missing in my gaming room...
sadly no :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on April 16, 2013, 01:01 AM
Hey, dvd2vcd, just to know, do you have a JaguarCD unit ?
It's a piece of harware still missing in my gaming room...
sadly no :(

I had the chance to buy it for around 120$ a couple of times with games, but always passed on it. I still cannot justify buying it for a meager 13 (s)crappy games, and I don't really care about homebrew.

I know the comment was not for me, just chiming in. Given I did the mistake to buy exotic hardware for no valid reason (Saturn Modem ... thinking I will try to play PSOL via Modem ..... why would I do that?) I can say that unless you have money to burn and the need to boast by showing off old console hardware (I'm guilty as charged here) I'd say you will sleep soundly at night even without it.
By any mean if you want to be one of the lucky 20000 that managed to get one, go ahead, still I think you can do better with your money and buy maybe some more exotic consoles like http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com/pg70-telstar_arcade.htm#page=models (http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com/pg70-telstar_arcade.htm#page=models) .... again just kidding .... I was mainly mocking your use of the word "sadly" .... IMO I think you should be quite happy to have avoided that mine (really you want to play this: http://videogamecritic.com/jaguarfl.htm#Highlander_(CD) (http://videogamecritic.com/jaguarfl.htm#Highlander_(CD))).... but hey what do I know, I am just an old grumpy fella in the middle of an identity crisis.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 16, 2013, 07:07 PM
well iv got a 32x on the way from the usa courtesy of jimmy right here on the forums, trading him my unwanted snes powerpak :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 16, 2013, 08:49 PM
Got one too.
It's a pretty nice hardware.
Once it is plugged in a MegaDrive 2, it looks like a Star Wars ship :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 16, 2013, 09:36 PM
Got one too.
It's a pretty nice hardware.
Once it is plugged in a MegaDrive 2, it looks like a Star Wars ship :D
(http://s2.postimg.org/t617mvjvt/sfpaperist_E38080_Asfpaperist_Ajpg.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Atarinerd on April 16, 2013, 10:13 PM
Then most of us agree,
let's buy Jaguar everdrive once its released  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 16, 2013, 10:34 PM
I will agree on that (I still think a GB/GBC Everdrive makes more sense)...For some strange reason, my RGB Jaguar/JagCD (aka toilet bowl) does look pretty cool.

My Jaguar + JagCD + Skunkboard II

https://imageshack.us/a/img841/3596/jaguarjagcdskunkboardii.jpg

It would be sexier with a Jaguar Everdrive, I'll admit...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 17, 2013, 01:07 AM
wow rgb didnt kno u had that little jag setup  :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 17, 2013, 02:30 AM
wow rgb didnt kno u had that little jag setup  :)

Yea and I actually have 2 skunkboard II's in cart shells, as well as a 6-button controller, and RGB cable, displaying on my 37" VGA/RGB CRT monitor

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 17, 2013, 11:34 AM
RGB_Gamer, you have 2 Skunkboards ?
Wel...
...
It's one of surplus...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: retrogamerF on April 19, 2013, 04:56 PM
i have a new sunkboard 3 in a shell, but rarely use it,
having the computer around makes no sense

looking forward to Jaguar Everdrive soon !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 19, 2013, 05:10 PM
RGB_Gamer, you have 2 Skunkboards ?
Wel...
...
It's one of surplus...

I once had 3 Skunboard 2's. It wasn't surplus when you consider one can only hold up to 2 games at a time.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 20, 2013, 02:13 AM
Hey retrogamerF, since you think it makes no sense, would you sell your Skunkboard ?
...
...
I ask, who knows ? :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 20, 2013, 02:32 AM
Hey retrogamerF, since you think it makes no sense, would you sell your Skunkboard ?
...
...
I ask, who knows ? :D

Hmmm...I have benn thinking or swlling one of mine...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on April 20, 2013, 07:40 PM
Wait for Jaguar Everdrive
Don't waste money on sunkboards
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 20, 2013, 08:14 PM
Wait for Jaguar Everdrive
Don't waste money on sunkboards
+1  8)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 20, 2013, 08:16 PM
Wait for Jaguar Everdrive
Don't waste money on sunkboards
+1  8)

I'd rather wait for a Gb/GBC everdrive

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 20, 2013, 08:26 PM
I don't think it's wasting money...
For exemple, for the SNES, i started with a SuperCOM Pro1 (from CCL) with its odd interface and untrustful floppy driver.
Then I purchased a MultiGame Hunter (from Venus Corp.). Still floppy driver but more convenient, with a complicated menu.
After this, I found the Tototek SuperFlash 64M. Far more easy to load ROM, but with a too little memory of course...
And now it's time for SD2SNES :)
Things evolves, it's interesting to understand, use and, later, store such devices.

Well, it's what I think, I would understand that some other people don't think so...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 20, 2013, 08:52 PM
I agree with that. I actually still use my Super Wildcard DX2 for SNES, and Z64 for N64.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 20, 2013, 10:55 PM
wether its a GB/GBC everdrive or a jaguar everdrive either way il be buying both  8)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on April 21, 2013, 06:17 PM
And about MSX Computer cartridge ! it's a good market !

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on April 22, 2013, 08:52 PM
I think this poll/survey has reached as many votes as it's gonna get, so I'll just bump the results one last time so you can all see what people have votes.
You can still vote here (http://poll.pollcode.com/tbhf1q) if you want but I doubt it's gonna get more than a handfuld from this point on.

Anyways, thanks to everyone who has taken a minute to vote, I acually never thought 150 people would vote. Just remember: This poll is only for the sake of curiosity and is not associated with Krikzz and his work.


(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/vote_last.png)

The Gameboy is clearly the favorite (No surprise there), with the Neo Geo, Saturn and Jaguar a good margin behind. Though I think the Jaguar is probably the most realistic :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on April 23, 2013, 02:40 AM
Well, KRIKzz already mentioned that a GB/GBC ED has power issues, and a NeoGeo ED is too complex and costly for the scant handful who would buy one. A Saturn ED? Really? I thought we already explained why that's just plain silly.

Maybe KRIKzz will find some lower power parts for a GB/GBC ED.

I think many of the entries on the poll would be different if you also gave an estimated price - particularly the NeoGeo. Sure, 29 people voted for it, but would they if the price was $250?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on April 23, 2013, 02:51 AM
jaguar is up to 8%,
and it's very easy to do.

should sell on par with pce
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 23, 2013, 03:37 AM
Well, KRIKzz already mentioned that a GB/GBC ED has power issues, and a NeoGeo ED is too complex and costly for the scant handful who would buy one. A Saturn ED? Really? I thought we already explained why that's just plain silly.

Maybe KRIKzz will find some lower power parts for a GB/GBC ED.

I think many of the entries on the poll would be different if you also gave an estimated price - particularly the NeoGeo. Sure, 29 people voted for it, but would they if the price was $250?

Many people have gone on record (even on neo-geo.com) to say that they would pay 500-1000 for a Neo Geo flash cart. I am sure most of us know that some carts are so expensive (not to mention the hardware that it's played on), and people willingly pay exorbitant prices for Neo Geo items, so it has never been a matter of price.



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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 23, 2013, 05:49 AM
regardless to the poll or not gb/gbc and jaguar will be next, jaguar first then gb/gbc it makes the most sense.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Never on April 23, 2013, 09:46 AM
It makes the most sense? For who?

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on April 23, 2013, 10:46 AM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/final2.png)

It makes the most sense? For who?

I must ask this as well.


The poll is only wishful thinking, and doesn't take into account either the cost or complexity of actually assemble one so everyone should treat it as such.
I know the SD2SNES wasn't made by Krikzz but that was well over $200 and the first run sold out in barely 5 minutes, so if theres a demand, the price would have to be extremely high for people to skip it.
I wouldn't mind having to pay $200+ for a GB Everdrive myself.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 23, 2013, 08:03 PM
It makes the most sense? For who?
who do you think? krikzz, the easiest 2 flash carts from that list is gb/gbc ed and jag ed there is demand for both, open ur eyes beyond this forum and ul see, gotta be cost effective for him to produce, neogeo everdrive aint never gonna happen krikzz has already said that! as for cd based consoles i dont know why a flash cart would benefit, modchips and burnt cdr is the best ur gonna get period  ???
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: deksar on April 23, 2013, 08:15 PM
i dont know why a flash cart would benefit, modchips and burnt cdr is the best ur gonna get period
Not always. Sad, yes.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on April 23, 2013, 09:24 PM
Because lasers die and have started to do so. CD-Rs are also bulky and unreliable. SD is the future for these old systems. It makes much more sense to the consumer but it's a whole different ball game from cartridge rom so would take a long time to develop.

My money is still on a GB everdrive. As said before, power requirements can be worked out.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 23, 2013, 09:30 PM
It makes the most sense? For who?
who do you think? krikzz, the easiest 2 flash carts from that list is gb/gbc ed and jag ed there is demand for both, open ur eyes beyond this forum and ul see, gotta be cost effective for him to produce, neogeo everdrive aint never gonna happen krikzz has already said that! as for cd based consoles i dont know why a flash cart would benefit, modchips and burnt cdr is the best ur gonna get period  ???

Sadly not.
Most of my CD-Rs, even DVD-Rs passed away and became unreadable. Unlike it was said when CD-Rs were released, it's not a good storage medium, specially for our game system.
PlayStation or even Saturn don't have very reliable lens system, and it's often the main cause of breakdown.
Dreamcast has its issues too.
I'm actually studying the optical drive replacement for Nintendo GameCube.
I think that the goal for every gamer/archiver would be to store ROMs on flash memories (SD or even SSD hard drive).
For now... maybe one day there will be a even more reliable storage medium.


EDIT: i was writing this while you posted RetroRepair.
It's funny how we think the same :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: deksar on April 23, 2013, 09:40 PM
Because lasers die and have started to do so. CD-Rs are also bulky and unreliable. SD is the future for these old systems. It makes much more sense to the consumer but it's a whole different ball game from cartridge rom so would take a long time to develop.
+2
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 24, 2013, 09:24 AM
well i have a sd card dreamshell setup on my dreamcast and its crap compared to cdr  ::) my money is on a jag ED
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 24, 2013, 10:02 AM
I hav it too.
but it's crappy due to port transfer.
You cannot consider this item as an optical drive replacement.
Goal is this kind of system:
http://www.cobra-ode.com/products.html
but for our beloved oldies systems...

PS: i begin to understand how you can bore people here with your Jaguar addiction.
Did you think about a treatment ? ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: mattmayatt on April 24, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jag ever drive would be amazing as jag games are 1. Rare 2. Bloody expensive 3. No flash cart is available yet.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 24, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jag ever drive would be amazing as jag games are 1. Rare 2. Bloody expensive 3. No flash cart is available yet.

Well there is Skunkboard, but they are rare, and expensive. They weren't mass produced either, so unless you eaited nearly a year for a preorder like I did, you are better off waiting forca Jaguar ED.

At this point, I want the Jaguar ED to be released so then there is no excuse not to release a GB/GBC ED next.

By the way, does anyone know of a good source for Jaguar homebrew?

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 24, 2013, 08:17 PM
rgb...atari age and jaguar sector have homebrew sections :) i think theres a few jaguar haters here everytime i mention jaguar i get neg rep points  :o
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 24, 2013, 08:26 PM
Because lasers die
true but can be easily replaced (not the entire cd-rom system) just the laser mech
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on April 25, 2013, 04:38 PM
there are tons of homebrews for jaguar

some carts are really expensive

so a JAGUAR EVERDRIVE would really make sense  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 25, 2013, 04:53 PM
i've heard some of the jaguar homebrew is as good as some of the retail games. i wouldn't know myself i have never tried a jag homebrew game. i guess if comparing to some the poor games on the system maybe but i doubt they be anywhere near as good as alien vs predator.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on April 26, 2013, 07:01 PM
just atari karts (mario kart clone) is worth more than 2 everdrives
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on April 26, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jamma Drive => Jamma Card for Arcade System

it will be great !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 26, 2013, 07:24 PM
Rien à voir mais tu es français pckid ?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 26, 2013, 08:58 PM
just atari karts (mario kart clone) is worth more than 2 everdrives
i have always wanted to play that game, emulators cannot run it :( another good reason for a jaguar everdrive
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on April 26, 2013, 10:52 PM
just atari karts (mario kart clone) is worth more than 2 everdrives
i have always wanted to play that game, emulators cannot run it :( another good reason for a jaguar everdrive

Actually, VirtualJaguar can play it, on my laptop is too slow (like 1/3 of the speed it should be) as it seems the emulator is single threaded, but nonetheless I made it thru the first race, and in slow speed is not that fun.

Also, just because a game is expensive (due to being rare) does not make it worth playing, Atari karts is not special in this regard, it is only worth its price for collection reasons and not gameplay. Actually in general no game is worth more than its asking price at the time of publishing for gameplay alone. Games are not like wine, they don't age and get any better, it's humans that age and their memories soften, only the game rarity (hence scarcity) can lift price and then again only if there's demand for it.

Anyway give VirtualJaguar a chance (in the main page if you scroll down a little there's a link to periodic experimental builds that are worth trying, some have fixes and some have new bugs as it is usual for experimental/WIP code).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 26, 2013, 11:59 PM
i have used that emulator before and i wasnt impressed, games run kinda smooth if you turn the sound off lol erm no thanks  ??? jag emulators just cannot run games "properly" is what i meant, id rather play jag roms on a flash cart not a piss poor emulator  ::) and fyi atari karts is expensive not because the game was great it was because there wasnt many copies available so its classed as ultra rare hence the price tag
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 27, 2013, 12:49 AM
i always wanted to play atari karts but it's expensive and don't want to go down the poor emulation root :( game looks like fun. i can understand if it seems not so good while compared to mario karts and crash team racing games but i have played the hell out of those and would like to play a not so well known rare old karting game for a change.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 27, 2013, 03:12 AM
Lol I actually have that game on one of my Skunkboard II', along with Doom. I love the graphics

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on April 27, 2013, 03:41 AM
If you build VJ yourself, you can enable the experimental multi-threading support, which runs the risc chips in their own thread. That makes the speed much better with sound enabled. However, you still a decent speed multi-core processor to run stuff full speed. Jaguar emulation still has a way to go - it's not nearly as mature as other emulators, mainly because only one or two people work on it. :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 27, 2013, 03:12 PM
i don't think i would be entirely happy with jaguar emulation even if it was very good. i will always choose hardware over emulation. i was really putoff the skunkboards though. i was going to buy one from the goatstore when they had the last run and decided against it after finding out about the shortcommings. no eeprom for saving, the way it links to pc to transfer roms and the limitation of only being able to store two roms on the card at a time :(
 shame they didn't design the skunkboard to the same standards as a krikzz flash cart. sd card support, an OS for selecting games and installing a eeprom chip making game saves possible. the device just has too many shortcommings.
 saying that though RGB_Gamer is playing atari karts and i'm not lol.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 27, 2013, 03:22 PM
im sure krikzz will come up trumps and invent a propper jaguar solution thats been well overdue
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on April 27, 2013, 10:06 PM
Take a look at this Skunkboard REV3 cased:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300897207007#ht_500wt_1414
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 28, 2013, 11:41 AM
omg $265 starting bid  :o if krikzz made a everdrive that skunk wouldnt sell for that price
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 28, 2013, 05:04 PM
thats the problem the skunkboard is expensive for what it is and even more expensive on ebay and such. during the last run i could have had one for about 120 dollars or so i think it was. i still decided against it. seems more of a pain that what it's worth.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 28, 2013, 06:52 PM
Wow maybe I should sell my Skunkboard 2s on ebay...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on April 28, 2013, 06:59 PM
You'd probably double your investment if you sell them any time soon. If Krikzz announces a JagED though, they'll suddenly become a whole lot less valuable.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 28, 2013, 08:31 PM
You'd probably double your investment if you sell them any time soon. If Krikzz announces a JagED though, they'll suddenly become a whole lot less valuable.

I wonder how much I could get for each of my Skunkboard 2's? They are each in a cartridge shell. I don't really want to sell on ebay, so maybe someone on AtariAge would want them.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on April 28, 2013, 08:58 PM
I think that Krikzz, for the next Everdrive, should attempt to replace the SegaCD/MegaCD.

Afterall it's connected to the side so commands are sent to it thru high level "instructions", in the end it contains an MC68K, some RAM, extra audio channel and a couple of custom chips.
I believe it could be possible to do the complete CD part thru HLE, that would make for an interesting Everdrive .... what do you think?

It will work in pair with the MegaED or stand alone for CD only support, it would have a custom BIOS to allow all sorts of neat tricks as it is the first thing booted after all when connected.

Just another possibility thrown in there, although I admit there are not many Sega/Mega CD games that are that interesting.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 28, 2013, 11:47 PM
I think that Krikzz, for the next Everdrive, should attempt to replace the SegaCD/MegaCD.

Afterall it's connected to the side so commands are sent to it thru high level "instructions", in the end it contains an MC68K, some RAM, extra audio channel and a couple of custom chips.
I believe it could be possible to do the complete CD part thru HLE, that would make for an interesting Everdrive .... what do you think?

It will work in pair with the MegaED or stand alone for CD only support, it would have a custom BIOS to allow all sorts of neat tricks as it is the first thing booted after all when connected.

Just another possibility thrown in there, although I admit there are not many Sega/Mega CD games that are that interesting.

This is the kind of device i want to dream of :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 28, 2013, 11:57 PM
hold on...lets roll back to the beggining...everdrives are flash cartridge devices that play game rom collections via a sd card on its respective cartridge consoles, lets not get carried away with ideas of a entire console replacement for cd systems, sega cd, saturn etc, new lasers and modchips already cover that.

asking for that would be like asking to squeeze 32X technology on the mega ED  ::)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on April 29, 2013, 12:29 AM
...
asking for that would be like asking to squeeze 32X technology on the mega ED  ::)

Which would be awesome if possible given how goofy the "real hardware" looks like. I know, in the case of 32X you also have to support the video mixing feature but current FPGA can easily support soft cores of 2 SH2 and 512KB of RAM (mixed prog/VRAM) although they are more probably more powerful that the Cyclone II in use for now on the ED line ..... in a way you know is like what's already been done for MMC5 or VRC6 chips on N8 or DSP1/2/3/4, CX4 and maybe one day SuperFX on SD2SNES. it is just a matter of complexity of the target subsystem.

The point being  is that maybe for the SegaCD given the technology it used it is not demanding for current FPGA, a MC68K soft core is not that big, the rest I am not sure, mixing video signal over the analog path is kind of a bitch, although I expect it to be a simple overlay Gen bottom, 32X top, and see thru over 1 chroma key color on the 32X grafx (the so called transparent color).

Of the various console CD replacements are probably easier for SegaCD, Saturn, NeoGeoCD, PCEngine, 3DO and maybe Dreamcast (not necessarily in that order of complexity), the reason being that a whole lot of analog CD logic was handled by doughterboards as such (like for the Wii/Gamecube) that is the place where to intercept and emulate the whole CD (special attention needed for the audio path I presume). PS1 instead had the CD assembly being very simple and pass the signal as picked up by the laser straight thru the mainboard so intercepting and emulating that path is working at such a low level that can get very complex. Of course on the board there's a chip that does the control/decoding but it evolved as new version where released, not so much for the other consoles (attention with the Saturn, I have 2 of them and I can't swap the CD even if the are both 21pins, so I suspect there are various versions of the mainboard/cd pairs to be accounted for like the Wii DMS/D2A/D2B etc...).

Krikzz already stated he's not interetsed in CD based system, but he loves Genesis/MegaDrive so maybe starting there it may be more fun for him..... even if that may delay the JagED ;-)   just kidding!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 29, 2013, 01:11 AM
even if that may delay the JagED ;-)   just kidding!!!
lol i look at my megadrive, snes, turbo grafx, famicom av, then i look at my jag and think to myself its only a matter of time before krikzz does the right thing ;) but seein as krikzz already has a proto gb/gbc ED it makes sense for him to carry on with that first, but then again how hard would it be for him to develop a jag ED? a matter of a few months i reckon, i cant see it being as complex as other everdrives :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on April 29, 2013, 06:05 AM
hold on...lets roll back to the beggining...everdrives are flash cartridge devices that play game rom collections via a sd card on its respective cartridge consoles, lets not get carried away with ideas of a entire console replacement for cd systems, sega cd, saturn etc, new lasers and modchips already cover that.

asking for that would be like asking to squeeze 32X technology on the mega ED  ::)

No, that's not what that's like at all.
Squeezing 32X technology on the Mega ED would require either chips from an original 32X circuit board that the Mega ED is passed through in order to create the same effect as a Mega ED plugged into a 32X plugged into a genesis, or some type of replica chips (Which I'm fairly sure don't exist)
Disc Drive emulators (Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone) use streaming technology to replicate a disc drive with non-disc storage.

Standard Disc Drive: Data called for>Data found on CD track>Data loaded into RAM>Data executed
Emulated: Data called for>Data pulled from media (I think it would be easiest to load an ISO into RAM, and have the data loaded from the RAM cache)>Data executed.

Would it be more difficult to create than a cartridge solution? Yes. Would it be the same as recreating, to an exact degree, a piece of video game hardware.

By no means.

Also, Krik never said that the ED was only going to be a cartridge based series. Yes, he did say that it would be more difficult, and indicated that it wouldn't happen any time soon, but he never explicitly stated that it would never happen.

Here's the post where he talks about CD consoles, BTW.

the most important reasons:
1) lack of information about hardware
2) I am not a big fan of cd based systems

Note that it does not say, "I will not make a CD everdrive because Everdrives are only for cartridge based systems." This was in response to a post asking, "What's stopping Krik from making CD based everdrives?"

Does it indicate that there's a lower chance of that happening? Yes. Does it completely eliminate the chances of a CD Everdrive? By no means.

You can also advocate modchipping and laser-replacing over disc-drive emulation all you want, though. Lasers fail, and replacing them probably isn't the easiest thing in the world, either.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Troyus on April 29, 2013, 11:34 AM
There is a guy close to a ps1 cart. (wtf lol) he has a board that plugs into the expansion port allowing game images to be stored on a HDD and played on the ps1 hardware. Looks interesting and would eliminate load times I would think.

I am on a bus with my iPad ATM so I do not have the link for you.
edit* http://psio.com.au/
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on April 29, 2013, 12:04 PM
Rien à voir mais tu es français pckid ?

yes my lord , from ile de france (94)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 29, 2013, 07:11 PM
wow alot of jaguar haters here...so sad really, neg rep points from 90-100 overnight LOL pointless whats it gonna achieve? nothin!! im a trusted member (i proved that, ask jimmy) and i dont give a flying fuck anymore neg rep me all u want guys, while i wait for a jaguar everdrive, you know its gonna happen, deal with it, i dont care much for cd systems that need laser replacement, if u actually bought a brand new system instead of from a flea market dont expect it to last 5 mins, and dream of a cd everdrive, cos thats all its gonna be  :-X
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Never on April 29, 2013, 08:20 PM
Dude you need to let go those drugs.

I have a jaguar brand new boxed, and altough i kinda like the system im not asking or saying how much it cool it would be if krikzz releases a jaguar everdrive, every post in this thread.
Really read this thread back to back like i did, the amount of times you've said atari jaguar is ridiculous.

The jaguar itself is considered a flop with only 250k unit sold worldwide so its considered rare, and way more expensive to get one then a genesis/snes.
Plus it has barely over 30 games.

I think this is more than enough for krikzz not being interested right now.
Maybe at a later time, after gb everdrive, who knows?

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on April 29, 2013, 09:03 PM
Rien à voir mais tu es français pckid ?

yes my lord , from ile de france (94)
OK :) I'm from Allier (03)
But why the hell do we speak english ? ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 29, 2013, 09:13 PM
the amount of times you've said atari jaguar is ridiculous.
the amount of times ppl have been flaming jaguar on here is way more ridiculous, the turbo grafx aint much better than the jaguar and that has a everdrive, i should know as i have both consoles and i have a turbo everdrive aswell  :-X
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 29, 2013, 10:56 PM
the turbografx has a very good library of games though in comparison to the jaguar so turbo everdrive was always going to take priority over a jaguarED imo. i would say the same can be said for all the everdrives produced so far except maybe game gear which still has a reasonable fanbase.
 the fact most the mainstream cart consoles have now been covered is the reason we are dreaming of more obscure console everdrives.
 gb/gbc is a logical direction for a future everdrive so is gba and possibly atari vcs from a business standpoint because these consoles were successful.
 jaguar would be ideal for the likes of us who really want it but i for one would understand perfectly if jaguar is not the next Ed produced. the fact it's suppossed to be an easy flashcart to design in comparison to others may appeal to krikzz as it could probably be designed fast and then move onto other projects. also as previously mentioned here it would be fairly easy to allow loading of jagcd games via sd card which would make the cart even more appealing to fans who cant find or afford a working jagcd unit due to the low numbers manufactured and how unreliable and poorly designed the cd units were.
 a jag everdrive which supports loading of rare cd games may lure in more potential buyers and i for one would be happy to pay more for the cart if it supported loading cd games function.
 one thing i know is that whatever everdrive comes next i will be buying one :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 12:08 AM
one thing i know is that whatever everdrive comes next i will be buying one :)
me too, its gonna be either gb/gbc or jag a winner either way  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 30, 2013, 12:15 AM
I dont think a Jag Everdrive loading CD games would be possible, but I am not a techie, so what do I know. Now loading Sega Saturn games through it's cartridge slot seems more possible...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Gh0st on April 30, 2013, 12:40 AM
I dont think a Jag Everdrive loading CD games would be possible, but I am not a techie, so what do I know. Now loading Sega Saturn games through it's cartridge slot seems more possible...

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Not quite on the Saturn.
The Jaguar would be a bit more feasible, since (AFAIK) it all still goes through the cartridge slot.
On the Saturn, you'd be loading through a device that was only made for save files and the like, and is ill-suited for loading backup games.
Someone would have to build a loader, and that wouldn't have 100% compatibility.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 30, 2013, 03:51 AM
chilly willy said on this thread that it would be easy to load cd games from flashcart on jaguar. he said All that is needed is I2S support along with a replacement BIOS so sounds promising. i think running other cd based games from other console addons would be much more complex. still most retro cd based systems/addons can still be found second hand at affordable prices as opossed the the jag cd addon which over the last few years gets more expensive everytime i look lol.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on April 30, 2013, 05:04 AM
The CD access in the Saturn is not handled by a BIOS - it's code embedded inside SEGA's libraries that are compiled into the game itself. At the very least, you would need to find and patch the CD code in every game as you load it. Possible, but a lot of work. Compatibility would be a big issue.

The CD access in the Jaguar is pretty simple - there's a jump table in the ram set by the CD BIOS when it inits, and all CD access is through the jump table by the 68000. Add to that the fact that the source code for the Jaguar CD BIOS is available. You can see that making CD loading through a flash cart is actually not just possible, but somewhat easy compared to nearly every other CD based console. For best compatibility with the Jaguar CD, you'd want the flash cart to have the ability to send sector data from the SD card to the I2S bus on the cart port. That would allow for streaming data as well as CDDA playback. While there aren't that many Jaguar CD games, CD format is pretty common for homebrew given that flash carts are few and expensive. Of course, Jaguar CDs are few and expensive as well. :D

Personally, I think KRIKzz might just give GB/GBC another shot, but after that, I'm hoping for a Jaguar ED (with CD support!).
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on April 30, 2013, 05:02 PM
why are we so demanding?

a Jaguar Everdrive cart that only accepts roms would be great indeed as it is!

or i will go for that lovely cased Skunkboard 3 on ebay...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 06:07 PM
apparently the skunkboard is no more, the chips that it uses are finally obsolete, and a re-design of the board is not gonna pay off, looks like these things are gonna be worth mega money on ebay, however there is mention on making something that can be used with the skunkboard, didnt say what exactly, ya neva kno...might be some kind of sd card addon, who knows, but yes skunkboard is gonna be worth a hell of alot of money

@rgb.... time to cash in on your investment lol

iv got that skunkboard rev3 in my ebay watch list, am curious to see how much it goes for.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on April 30, 2013, 08:58 PM
whos being demanding? the point i was making is that if it's fairly easy to allow loading cd games as chilly willy explained then a cart with this function is going to create more interest than a cart that loads cartridge roms only.
 of course if krikzz designed a jag cart which loads cart roms only i would be happy as hell with it regardless. it's not being demanding to insinuate that the level of a products success could potentially be greatly increased by the inclusion of a very feasible function for someone of krikzz's capability.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 09:07 PM
if anyone can "pull it off" iso loading on a jag flash cart its krikzz, chilly willy knows his stuff hes a awesome coder, krikzz and chilly willy should put there heads together and make the jag everdrive, krikzz quality pcb design and chilly willy expert menu software design updates would be killer.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 30, 2013, 10:05 PM
I am gonna sell both my skunkboard 2's and wait for a Jag ED - especially if CD ISO loading is possible. Still will keep the Jag CD...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 10:18 PM
if krikzz needs a jaguar console for development il be more than happy to ship mine over to him for tests :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on April 30, 2013, 11:00 PM
I would ship krikzz my jaguar and jag CD system with 6-button controller and s-video cable if he needed :)

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 11:16 PM
I would ship krikzz my jaguar and jag CD system with 6-button controller and s-video cable if he needed :)

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show off lol  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 01, 2013, 02:30 AM
I'd certainly rather have the 6 button pad than the CD, but having both is just cruel and unusual punishment to those with neither. :D
I've got a BJL adapter I use with a parallel cable to my computer via Protector SE cart (very handy... a great game PLUS it loads BJL code). I also have AvP cart and one 3 button controller - and that's it!

I'll probably beef up my Jaguar collection a bit over summer as I make a little extra money. Jaguar stuff is pricey!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 01, 2013, 02:59 AM
It's even more awesome in RGB...hmm now I really do want a Jag ED...

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 02, 2013, 01:11 AM
i got my jag back recently after lending it out and it came back with no games... so i'm not even sure if it still works... reluctant to buy a game of ebay in case it's fubar'd... :-\
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 02, 2013, 05:40 AM
iddod, i feel for u mate :( jaguar games aint cheap nowadays :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 02, 2013, 09:46 PM
i've started bidding on a cybermorph, i'm hoping that it will stay cheap cos everyone has it (it was a pack in game wasn't it?)...

for my tuppence worth, and to sway dangerously back on topic, i'd like to see all cart based consoles get an everdrive, the argument that a console already has a flash cart doesn't wash with me, the joy of the everdrives is the simplicity of use and the best support i've seen of any "backup" device i've ever owned...
now that the smite has buggered off i feel safe in saying that i'm hoping for a jag ED next too  :)
though i still want to get a snes, nes and gg card, so i'm ok with waiting...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 02, 2013, 11:58 PM
yh cybermorph shud be a cheap buy as it came with a jag anyway, i got it ready to cut up ;) for a gb/gbc everdrive i would like a smoked shell like the drag n derp
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 03, 2013, 03:14 AM
i have 2 copies of cybermorph. one original release and one that has less voices. i heard that atari removed some voices from later versions so they could use a smaller rom chip to save some cash. was a while back but i remember specifically finding the full version and then i aquired the less voices version (which i have never played) in a mini bundle sale on ebay.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 03, 2013, 12:40 PM
butfluffy, thats interesting info, thanks :) i wonder if the 2 types are in the goodset  :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 03, 2013, 03:44 PM
i got the set somewhere on one of my external hard drives. downloaded it a while back before i found out jag emulators are poor and purchased my jaguar console. never even looked at the set tbh.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 03, 2013, 04:25 PM
just looked, theres only 1 version in goodJAG v2.01, Cybermorph (1993).jag
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 03, 2013, 05:39 PM
just looked on wiki now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybermorph it appears that the original version was a 2MB cart released in 1993. the rerelease is 1MB, released in 1994 and excludes introduction, ending animation sequences and has fewer voice samples.
 hopefully the version in the goodset is the original 2MB version considering you said it's 1993 release in your post. if so then there is no real need for the 1MB 1994 version to be dumped as it don't add nothing to the game only excludes content.

edit - @ dvd2vcd - i also just found this info in case your insterested

Original Cybermorph (2MB)
----------------------------------------------
Title Screen  Animated morph sequence
Copyright     1993
Skylar Talk   "Where did YOU learn to fly?"
                    "Portal now open."
                    "Pod in trouble."
                     "Good luck."
                    "Good work."
                    "Well done."
                    "Ouch."
                    "Great shot."
                    "Avoid the ground."
                   "Only one more."
Endgame       Animated morph sequence

Cybermorph Rev.2 (1MB)
-------------------------------------------------
Title Screen  Still shot, no animation
Copyright     1994
Skylar Talk   "Where did YOU learn to fly?"
                   "Portal now open."
                    "Pod in trouble."
                    "Good luck."
                   "Good work."
                   "Well done."
                   "Ouch."
Endgame       Still shot, no animation
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 03, 2013, 06:58 PM
the goodset rom does indeed have an animated title screen, project tempest just about loaded the title screen with alot of scramble my guess its totally unplayable on project tempest, virtual jaguar doesnt load it at all  >:(

hope a jag ed comes next, it needs it desperately
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: patrickvogt on May 03, 2013, 08:37 PM
Hm ... if Krikzz would do a GB/GBC cartridge perhaps it would be possible to add support for the Super Game Boy? I think there are only a few games which support that (I own Bomberman  - Wario Blast! and Donkey Kong Land 2 which uses custom margin for the Super Game Boy)

This feature would be probably be more interesting for Homebrew (more colours etc.) on the Super Gameboy adapter than for playing roms. I think there are not many full dumps of such Super Gameboy enhanced game modules (if there is any full dump available) or if a emulator support those bits like margins and enhanced colour palette.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on May 03, 2013, 08:42 PM
some versions of bsnes supports gameboy borders.

i really can't understand what you want. if you have a gb/gbc cartridge (original or flash cart) and have super game boy adapter you can have super game boy enhancements.

if you are saying implementing the super game boy capabilities in the flash cart to avoid using super game boy adapter, it will be a snes flash cart not gameboy flash cart.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 03, 2013, 08:59 PM
i won the cybermorph... 99p
 ;D

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 03, 2013, 09:23 PM
i won the cybermorph... 99p
 ;D
8) bargain
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 03, 2013, 09:24 PM
cybermorph seems to be the cheapest jag game about. if only some the rare ones were not so expensive lol.
i agree with reprep regarding the SGB. you would need a super gameboy adapter to have access to the enhancements. if you have a super gameboy adapter then the roms of the games which supported the enhancements will work well. the donkey kong 94 one is my fav :)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 03, 2013, 09:28 PM
a gb/gbc everdrive combined with a super gameboy could be brilliant, also be ace plugged into a gameboy player for cube
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on May 03, 2013, 09:53 PM
the goodset rom does indeed have an animated title screen, project tempest just about loaded the title screen with alot of scramble my guess its totally unplayable on project tempest, virtual jaguar doesnt load it at all  >:(

hope a jag ed comes next, it needs it desperately


agree, A JAGUAR EVERDRIVE is needed, portable flash carts don't sell...

...just look at the new Lynx one !, no one is caring for it
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on May 03, 2013, 09:56 PM
i have 2 copies of cybermorph. one original release and one that has less voices. i heard that atari removed some voices from later versions so they could use a smaller rom chip to save some cash. was a while back but i remember specifically finding the full version and then i aquired the less voices version (which i have never played) in a mini bundle sale on ebay.

That's pretty bad that, buying a game and getting less than a person who already has the game. Was the re-release at least cheaper to buy?

And was this common with game cartridges? I do know that No Mercy, an N64 wresting game, had the blood removed in later batches of the PAL version for whatever reason, and there were a couple of cases on the N64 where the re-release (or subsequent batches) of a game had bugfixes implemented (Space Station: Silicon Valley, and Perfect Dark), and there were some minor changes to later versions of the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 03, 2013, 10:09 PM
i don't know much about it tbh other than some content was removed to save money by using 1MB chips instead of 2MB.
makes sense  to have revision releases if bugfixes are included. didn't silicon valley have a bug where you cant collect one of the souvenirs resulting in not being able to 100 percent complete the games stats, see the proper ending and play bonus level without entering a code. does the revised bugfix version fix this bug? i didn't know silicon valley even had a revised release.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 03, 2013, 10:25 PM
@krikzzfan im pretty sure a gb/gbc everdrive would sell bucket loads, at this moment in time the everdrives i hope to see is the jag and gb/gbc, jag first but we all know krikzz has already made a proto gb/gbc ed
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: patrickvogt on May 03, 2013, 10:29 PM
Quote from: reprep
some versions of bsnes supports gameboy borders.

i really can't understand what you want. if you have a gb/gbc cartridge (original or flash cart) and have super game boy adapter you can have super game boy enhancements.

if you are saying implementing the super game boy capabilities in the flash cart to avoid using super game boy adapter, it will be a snes flash cart not gameboy flash cart.

Can you give me a link of a rom you know has Super Game Boy enhancements fully dumped? Once I downloaded a rom of Bomberman - Wario Blast! or Donkey Kong Land 2 and flashed it to a GB USB Smart Card 64M the custom borders didn't appeared on the screen (on a PAL SNES with Super Game Boy Adapter). So either the dumps were incomplete or the GB USB Smart Card 64M is not capable of using the enhancements.

After reading the wiki article about the Super GameBoy, I definitely believe that a GB/GBC cartridge which isn't intended for special use with Super Game Boy can't use the enhancements even if they are stored and flashed to the flashcard. But perhaps I am wrong with that.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 03, 2013, 10:34 PM
the tip for this is to load the rom into flash and boot it. then reset your snes . the super gameboy cant kick in with enhancements after flash cart rom menu. only by reseting the console after rom is loaded allows super gameboy to run rom like a real cart is inserted :) hope that helps.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on May 04, 2013, 12:55 AM
i don't know much about it tbh other than some content was removed to save money by using 1MB chips instead of 2MB.
makes sense  to have revision releases if bugfixes are included. didn't silicon valley have a bug where you cant collect one of the souvenirs resulting in not being able to 100 percent complete the games stats, see the proper ending and play bonus level without entering a code. does the revised bugfix version fix this bug? i didn't know silicon valley even had a revised release.

No, it didn't fix the bug, amazingly enough. The original release (NTSC and maybe JAP, I don't know) had the bug you mention, and also crashed if the N64 had an expansion pak attached. The PAL release, which came later (back then PAL release dates were almost always behind the NTSC version) had the expansion pak bug fixed, but not the bug where you couldn't collect one of the collectables. A fixed NTSC version was released, I don't know if this was before or after the PAL release, but like the PAL release it fixed the expansion pak bug but not the collectable bug, and so the game is only completable if you cheat to get the game to think you picked up that collectable.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on May 04, 2013, 01:07 AM
Quote from: reprep
some versions of bsnes supports gameboy borders.

i really can't understand what you want. if you have a gb/gbc cartridge (original or flash cart) and have super game boy adapter you can have super game boy enhancements.

if you are saying implementing the super game boy capabilities in the flash cart to avoid using super game boy adapter, it will be a snes flash cart not gameboy flash cart.

Can you give me a link of a rom you know has Super Game Boy enhancements fully dumped? Once I downloaded a rom of Bomberman - Wario Blast! or Donkey Kong Land 2 and flashed it to a GB USB Smart Card 64M the custom borders didn't appeared on the screen (on a PAL SNES with Super Game Boy Adapter). So either the dumps were incomplete or the GB USB Smart Card 64M is not capable of using the enhancements.

After reading the wiki article about the Super GameBoy, I definitely believe that a GB/GBC cartridge which isn't intended for special use with Super Game Boy can't use the enhancements even if they are stored and flashed to the flashcard. But perhaps I am wrong with that.
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i have the exact same flash cartridge and i can use the special borders etc. load only one rom to the cartridge or use the reset button if you use multi-rom menu as butfluffy said.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 04, 2013, 02:39 AM
thinking about it reprep, you were the guy that provided me with the info regarding the usb GB flash and SGB reset trick. i speak about this kinda stuff osn afew forums all the time it's hard to remember who said what sometimes lol.
 shame about the silicon valley bug never being fixed. maybe we will get a fan hack fix over at romhacks one day. i know there have been some bug fix releases there for other games over the years.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on May 04, 2013, 03:18 AM
shame about the silicon valley bug never being fixed. maybe we will get a fan hack fix over at romhacks one day. i know there have been some bug fix releases there for other games over the years.

Hopefully, yes. But the N64 is notoriously hard to program, plus the N64 emulators are (even now) less than ideal, and for most of the N64's life most users couldn't run N64 hacks or homebrew as to do so meant buying an expensive and often hard to find backup device - three (disappointing) reasons why there are so few N64 hacks and homebrew. I'm so glad that the Everdrive 64 (and 64 Drive, though I haven't got one of those) came along and was affordable and powerful, but at this late stage I doubt we'll see a lot of progress with N64 hacking/homebrew. Then again, I'm usually wrong about most things, so fingers crossed I'm well off the mark here too  ;)

On the plus side, my two favourite N64 games (Goldeneye and Perfect Dark) have been hacked, with great results (see Goldeneye X at http://www.moddb.com/mods/goldeneye-x), and if I could have one thing N64 related (aside from Gameshark code emulation on the N64, which is on the way anyway  :) :) :)) I'd ask for a Windows program that edited the multiplayer levels in Perfect Dark, in an easy to use, what-you-see-is-what-you-get sort of way, that any idiot (me!) can use. There is actually a very good program that lets you do this, at;

http://www.goldeneyevault.com/viewfile.php?id=37

but the one thing it is not is easy to use (at least not for people like me, more talented users have used it to great effect) - I keep meaning to delve deeper into it and seeing what I can create, but ideally I'd like an editor which is as easy to use and intuitive as the map maker in the Timesplitters games. I also wish Rare would release the source code to their games (as id Software and 3D Realms did), but that isn't likely to happen...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 04, 2013, 03:34 AM
N64 emulation really isn't less than ideal. When I use N64oid on my Galaxy Note 2, games work really well, and has the ability to load high quality texture files to enhance the graphics.

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 04, 2013, 03:06 PM
shame on nintendo for allowing the game to not go bugfixed and screwing people who purchased it. game breaking bugs should always be fixed even if it means nintendo recalling all the carts and replacing them with fixed versions. i mean these games were expensive back in the day. it's reasons like this that make me glad i had my doctor v64 copier all those years ago.
 ok you can use a cheat code to access bonus leval and get 100% completion but that ain't the same. where is the i beat that damned game fair and square satisfaction in the cheat code method.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on May 04, 2013, 04:13 PM
N64 emulation really isn't less than ideal. When I use N64oid on my Galaxy Note 2, games work really well, and has the ability to load high quality texture files to enhance the graphics.

There are some games that won't currently work on any N64 emulator, such as Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. And (on the PC at least) there is no one emulator that runs all the game (or runs them all as well as) every other emulator - to play a variety of N64 games on the PC (a Windows PC, anyway) you need to have several different emulators and use different ones for different games, and also the plug in issue, where different plugins are needed for different games, isn't entirely solved, though it's much better than it used to be.

Contrast that to, say, a SNES or Megadrive emulator, where one (Windows based) emulator runs all of the games, and the user doesn't have to choose plugins or experiment with the emulator's options to get the best results.



shame on nintendo for allowing the game to not go bugfixed and screwing people who purchased it. game breaking bugs should always be fixed even if it means nintendo recalling all the carts and replacing them with fixed versions. i mean these games were expensive back in the day. it's reasons like this that make me glad i had my doctor v64 copier all those years ago.
 ok you can use a cheat code to access bonus leval and get 100% completion but that ain't the same. where is the i beat that damned game fair and square satisfaction in the cheat code method.

Yes. How SS:SV managed to get through testing without them realising that (a) the game didn't work with an expansion pak attatched, and (b) the game could not be completed (you'd think testers would regularly play the game through to completion, especially just before the game was due to be sent off to be burnt onto cartridge), I'll never know.

Though when you consider that the game Superman 64 presumably passed the famous 'Nintendo seal of Quality" test, you wonder how every game wasn't bugged to Hell. Not that I'm saying Superman 64 had any bugs, I don't know if it did (I never played it far enough...), just that the 'game' was so, so awful that it should never have been released, and if the Nintendo SoQ meant anything then Nintendo should have refused to accept S64 as being ready for release.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on May 04, 2013, 06:54 PM
...just look at the new Lynx one !, no one is caring for it

First ... what new Lynx flashcart?

Second, the Lynx has a fairly small user base, so don't go judging demand based on that system.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 04, 2013, 07:25 PM
@ Kerr Avon i agree with everything you said. also the fact that there are people out there with enough n64 knowledge to hack entire games like the ones you mentioned suggests that there are people in the n64 community who could most likely fix the silicon valley game breaking bug with some effort but maybe the game just ain't popular enough to warrant anyone's time in making a fix.
 personaly i would rather see a fix for silicon valley than any other n64 hacks atm. it's a shame that the n64 library is a little ruined due to this bug. i suppose at least that level select code is the only saving grace.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 04, 2013, 07:47 PM
...just look at the new Lynx one !, no one is caring for it

First ... what new Lynx flashcart?
i think they sell it over at atari age sold by a user named Lynxman
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: freaktmp on May 04, 2013, 09:41 PM
i think they sell it over at atari age sold by a user named Lynxman

This is at least 4 years old.

Flavor of flashmasta.com (http://www.flashmasta.com/) fame announced a lynx flashcart about a year ago, but it is currently in the backburner.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 04, 2013, 09:50 PM
i think they sell it over at atari age sold by a user named Lynxman

This is at least 4 years old.

maybe, but its still available.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on May 05, 2013, 02:34 AM
i think they sell it over at atari age sold by a user named Lynxman

This is at least 4 years old.

maybe, but its still available.

Regardless if it 's available, it's not new. KrikzzFan called out a new Lynx flashcart which isn't selling well. I'd like to know which cart he's referring to.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DarkLink on May 05, 2013, 02:47 AM
Add me to the list of people who love to own a GB/C EverDrive! Heck I want a Super Drive but its out of stock  :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 05, 2013, 03:18 AM
Add me to the list of people who love to own a GB/C EverDrive! Heck I want a Super Drive but its out of stock  :(

What's a Super Drive

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DarkLink on May 05, 2013, 03:23 AM
Add me to the list of people who love to own a GB/C EverDrive! Heck I want a Super Drive but its out of stock  :(

What's a Super Drive

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Something I just thought up!

Or I had a bran fart and forgot the Ever in Super EverDrive*

hmm... Fried Bacon...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 05, 2013, 03:51 AM

Or I had a bran fart...

mind that roughage dude, it sneaks up on you...  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 05, 2013, 10:56 AM
i think they sell it over at atari age sold by a user named Lynxman

This is at least 4 years old.

maybe, but its still available.

Regardless if it 's available, it's not new. KrikzzFan called out a new Lynx flashcart which isn't selling well. I'd like to know which cart he's referring to.
oh yh, my bad..

krikzzfan what cart u on about matey?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on May 07, 2013, 11:13 PM
You remember it ?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300897207007&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
finally, no one took it.
For those who told the Skunkboards worth 300$, not even one bid...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 08, 2013, 12:15 AM
That's because he asked for $285 as a STARTING bid. No one is going to do that. What you do is start at like $125, and then get two people bidding on the same board. They'll drive the board up well beyond what either would have paid as a starting bid - like $300. :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 08, 2013, 12:37 AM
That's because he asked for $285 as a STARTING bid. No one is going to do that. What you do is start at like $125, and then get two people bidding on the same board. They'll drive the board up well beyond what either would have paid as a starting bid - like $300. :D

That is what I will do when I put my 2 skunkboard 2's on ebay

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Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 08, 2013, 01:26 AM
That's because he asked for $285 as a STARTING bid. No one is going to do that. What you do is start at like $125, and then get two people bidding on the same board. They'll drive the board up well beyond what either would have paid as a starting bid - like $300. :D

That is what I will do when I put my 2 skunkboard 2's on ebay

It's one of those weird quirks of human nature - get two or more people bidding on the same item and they'll easily pay more for a USED item than it would cost to buy it brand new from a dealer!  :o
 ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on May 08, 2013, 08:45 AM
That's because he asked for $285 as a STARTING bid. No one is going to do that. What you do is start at like $125, and then get two people bidding on the same board. They'll drive the board up well beyond what either would have paid as a starting bid - like $300. :D

That is what I will do when I put my 2 skunkboard 2's on ebay

It's one of those weird quirks of human nature - get two or more people bidding on the same item and they'll easily pay more for a USED item than it would cost to buy it brand new from a dealer!  :o
 ;D

you are absolutely correct sir. and i fell for it too many times.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on May 08, 2013, 04:35 PM
http://www.flashmasta.com/2012/04/09/atari-lynx-flash-cartridge-flashmasta-lynx/

not selling

store.kitsch-bent.com

has good gb flash carts, not selling

gg everdrive, not selling

flash carts for portable machines don't sell

so

JAGUAR, JAGUAR , JAGUAR !!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on May 08, 2013, 04:36 PM
http://www.flashmasta.com/2012/04/09/atari-lynx-flash-cartridge-flashmasta-lynx/

not selling

store.kitsch-bent.com

has good gb flash carts, not selling

gg everdrive, not selling

flash carts for portable machines don't sell

so

JAGUAR, JAGUAR , JAGUAR !!!


i wish we still had the smite button.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 08, 2013, 05:56 PM
lol @ krikzzfan  ;D say it loud say it proud! atari jaguar  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on May 08, 2013, 07:34 PM
krikzzfan & dvd2vcd, you're definitively Jaguar junkies...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on May 08, 2013, 07:58 PM
http://www.flashmasta.com/2012/04/09/atari-lynx-flash-cartridge-flashmasta-lynx/

not selling

store.kitsch-bent.com

has good gb flash carts, not selling

gg everdrive, not selling

flash carts for portable machines don't sell
That's not even true.  Flash carts for GB, GBA and DS all sold really well. The 64M Smart card is probably the best/cheapest flash cart for GB/GBC that's still being manufactured and is doing ok. But it's a bit buggy, it's compatibility leaves much to be desired and it doesn't have RTC.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 08, 2013, 08:28 PM
krikzzfan & dvd2vcd, you're definitively Jaguar junkies...
im guilty as charged  :'(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 08, 2013, 09:55 PM
i'm guilty of jaguar cart wishing here aswell. may aswell hold my hands up lol.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on May 08, 2013, 11:23 PM
http://www.flashmasta.com/2012/04/09/atari-lynx-flash-cartridge-flashmasta-lynx/

not selling

store.kitsch-bent.com

has good gb flash carts, not selling

gg everdrive, not selling

flash carts for portable machines don't sell

so

JAGUAR, JAGUAR , JAGUAR !!!


First, the Flashmasta Lynx cart is not available. At the moment, it's nothing more than a proof of concept.  If it does get released, there's a large number of people in line to get one.

I have no idea why you say GB carts don't sell. They actually sell very well, to the point where they regularly go out of stock. 

GG Everdrives have sold well too.  They have a more limited customer base, as many people don't even have working GG units due to problems with the capacitors.

You've done nothing more than post baseless information to further your agenda.  I want a Jaguar Everdrives as much as the next person, but you don't help your cause posting things like this.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on May 09, 2013, 12:56 PM

GG Everdrives have sold well too.  They have a more limited customer base, as many people don't even have working GG units due to problems with the capacitors.


I wish Stone Age Gamer would have made some Deluxe Edition of the GG Everdrives like with the all other EDs.. It looks so naked next to my other EDs ^^;

Btw, GGs(Working of course) are sold for dirt cheap these days and are very easy to come by, so getting your hands one today shouldn't be a problem to anyway.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 09, 2013, 03:17 PM
the GG-ED is on my list of wants, but other things keep absorbing my disposable cash, so i'm hoping they don't get discontinued before i can afford one... i have 3 gamegears, one to play and a couple as backups... the cap replacement is a doddle, it's just long-winded dismantling the console to perform the operation, so i've only done one of mine so far...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: consolegeek on May 11, 2013, 12:03 AM
Krikkzfan is right

here they have lynx flash carts

http://www.1632systems.co.uk/index.htm

nobody cares

i own all everdrives BUT the gamegear one...

Let's see JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!

JAGUAR , JAGUAR ,JAGUAR !!!!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: consolegeek on May 11, 2013, 12:04 AM
FORGOT TO WRITE IT:

JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on May 11, 2013, 01:01 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img12/7573/jaguar.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on May 11, 2013, 01:04 AM

Blasphemy, Grambo you're Stupid as hell
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 11, 2013, 01:17 AM
omg grambo  :o
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 11, 2013, 01:38 AM
wouldnt a jag ED look fantastic in this shell (if you could ever afford the cart its very very rare and acording to a ebay seller worth around £700!)  :o
(http://s13.postimg.org/wtlc2hkzr/jag_ED.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on May 11, 2013, 03:17 AM
i would prefer a jag everdrive in a standard cart shell with that battle sphere game on it lol. my 1mb revision of cybermorph is my ideal candidate for donar shell lol.

@ grambo - i loved that AVGN episode from your pic. the segment about how horribly unreliable and expensive the jagCD s two reasons i wouldn't consider the cd addon. i found it rather funny when james the nerd was becoming irate at the annoying voice sample from cybermorph. and the look of what the hell is going on here when playing attack of the mutant penguins lol.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vmhomeboy on May 11, 2013, 07:33 AM
Krikkzfan is right

here they have lynx flash carts

http://www.1632systems.co.uk/index.htm

nobody cares

i own all everdrives BUT the gamegear one...

Let's see JAGUAR EVERDRIVE !!

JAGUAR , JAGUAR ,JAGUAR !!!!


Where do you get your information that 'nobody cares'?

The cart on that site has been available since 2010 and has sold quite a few units.  The maker of that cart primarily sells them through AtariAge.  If sales for that cart have dropped, it's because most people who would want a Lynx flashcart have already bought it.

If you want a Jaguar Everdrive, that's fine.  Come here and voice your support.  Just don't continue spreading false information to push your own agenda. 
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 11, 2013, 12:27 PM
i got my jag back recently after lending it out and it came back with no games... so i'm not even sure if it still works... reluctant to buy a game of ebay in case it's fubar'd... :-\

well... my cybermorph cart arrived, and my jag is indeed shagged... looks like my buddy must have used the wrong psu at some point, cos the voltage regulator chip is burnt out... hopefully i can desolder the melted chip and pop a new one in, though it's SMC so getting the old one off the board may be fiddly... still, new ones are cheap enough from hong kong, so it's not the end of the world just yet...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/431826_10152805807895224_731220731_n.jpg)

anyways, apologies for the thread hijacking, just thought i'd post a lil update... now where were we? oh yes, we were bickering about how popular/unpopular console X is, and how flash cartridge Z isn't selling well (despite the fact that cart Z isn't comparable to an everdrive in that they only hold one game at a time and need to be reflashed via a puter each time you want to try some other rom) ... so, as you were gentlemen...  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 11, 2013, 01:48 PM
to be fair if a flash cart isnt sd based im not interested, cant be bothered with the extra cable and flashing prog nonsense imo old tech, everdrive is the future of flash carts and old skool gaming preservation  8)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on May 11, 2013, 04:18 PM
well... my cybermorph cart arrived, and my jag is indeed shagged... looks like my buddy must have used the wrong psu at some point, cos the voltage regulator chip is burnt out... hopefully i can desolder the melted chip and pop a new one in, though it's SMC so getting the old one off the board may be fiddly... still, new ones are cheap enough from hong kong, so it's not the end of the world just yet...

anyways, apologies for the thread hijacking, just thought i'd post a lil update... now where were we? oh yes, we were bickering about how popular/unpopular console X is, and how flash cartridge Z isn't selling well (despite the fact that cart Z isn't comparable to an everdrive in that they only hold one game at a time and need to be reflashed via a puter each time you want to try some other rom) ... so, as you were gentlemen...  ;D

Ouch. Hopefully that's the only thing wrong with it. Careful desoldering; pins 1 and 16 have really tiny traces. I personally like to use chipquik for really small surface mount ICs in close proximity of other components.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RickyKustafason on May 12, 2013, 04:22 AM
Looks like the electrolytic capacitor C150 is leaking too  :(
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 12, 2013, 11:38 AM
Looks like the electrolytic capacitor C150 is leaking too  :(

yeah, i thought that too... i'm gonna remove all the suspect components and test em... the replacements should cost less than a tenner from farnell's, but i just need to check that it's not all gonna fry again soon as they're swapped out... something caused the damage in the first place and i need to eliminate that from the equation before it's worth the work... personally i think it was a simple case of my friend using the wrong PSU, he also fried the megacd i lent him but that was a simple fuse replacement fix... he passed away last year though, so i can't ask him any details...
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on May 13, 2013, 04:19 AM
It seems like Igor bought himself a Neogeo. (KRIKzz = Igor)
[check here http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=451.msg6374#msg6374]

I suspect he will like more the games for Neogeo than anything for Jaguar so I venture that the next in line is a NeoGeo Everdrive, and that would be an awesome day.
Although I do not own yet a NeoGeo AES I will buy one if that happens. I do have a NeoGeo CD and albeit slow loading the games are very good so with an AES and without loading delay it would be just "paradise".

So the question now is: would dvd2vcd be more excited because of the possibility of a "cheap" SD based flash/RAM card for NeoGeo or would he be more pissed as JaguarED would probably have to wait?

Only time will tell and I am sure dvd2vcd will voice his opinion soon enough ;-)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 13, 2013, 05:49 AM
 ;D i hope krikzz makes everdrives for all cart based systems, im suprised hes purchased a AES if he does make a AES-ED then fair play il buy a AES, but im hoping he will make a jag-ED first as it may be the easiest one to develop ;)
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 13, 2013, 06:50 AM
An AES-ED that allowed the CPU to write the video "flash" storage (which you would need to be able to load games off SD) would allow the Holy Grail of NeoGeo homebrew - being able to render video on the fly. While the NeoGeo is powerful enough for a raycast game like Wolf3D, you can't change the video rom on a NeoGeo cart, so you would need every piece of graphics pre-done for a NeoGeo raycast game. Even the NeoGeo CD doesn't allow writing the video ram - it has a mode that allows loading the video ram from CD, so again, you can't change the video tiles on the fly via the CPU. That makes bitmaps a real pain on the NeoGeo. A lot of NeoGeo owners I know don't want just a NeoGeo flash cart, they want a way to be able to write video memory from the CPU. I suppose having a ram buffer the CPU can write which can then be DMA'd into video ram would work, too. As long as it could hold at least a video frame worth of tile data so you'd finally have a bitmap mode.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on May 23, 2013, 04:39 PM
neogeo ED for 600+ us$ ?  :o
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 23, 2013, 07:25 PM
neogeo ED for 600+ us$ ?  :o

that sounds about right for the NG fanboys  ;D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on May 23, 2013, 10:21 PM
The 161-in-1 for the AES is $600. I imagine a Neo Geo Everdrive would probably come in over $200-$300 minimum and I would pay for it as would many other people.

That's CRAZY that the NG can't write/change its own video RAM.

Chilly Willy, what about This page (http://wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?title=VRAM) which claims that the VRAM can be changed at any time?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 24, 2013, 02:42 AM
The 161-in-1 for the AES is $600. I imagine a Neo Geo Everdrive would probably come in over $200-$300 minimum and I would pay for it as would many other people.

Yeah, $200 to $300 sounds about right for a NG cart.


Quote
That's CRAZY that the NG can't write/change its own video RAM.

Chilly Willy, what about This page (http://wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?title=VRAM) which claims that the VRAM can be changed at any time?

That's ONLY the sprite attribute table (to use the MD equivalent) and the fixed layer tile map. You have to have access to that to set the sprites and their attributes (position, etc). None of the sprite data or tile data is accessible, and that's the part I was talking about.

Remember that the NeoGeo only has sprites and one fixed layer meant for the score/hud.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on May 24, 2013, 07:56 PM
Yes !  I want a Neo Geo Everdrive, good feature and same a MVS DRIVE or JAMMA DRIVE
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on May 24, 2013, 11:53 PM
Yes !  I want a Neo Geo Everdrive, good feature and same a MVS DRIVE or JAMMA DRIVE
Lol @ JAMMA Drive.

I imagine a Neo Geo Everdrive would probably come in over $200-$300 minimum and I would pay for it as would many other people.
I'd buy an MVS Everdrive at this price.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on May 26, 2013, 10:34 PM
Yes !  I want a Neo Geo Everdrive, good feature and same a MVS DRIVE or JAMMA DRIVE
Lol @ JAMMA Drive.
Lol I want a JAMMA Drive! :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on May 27, 2013, 12:30 AM
i want a golden tee everdrive with jamma & trackball connection please :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 27, 2013, 01:05 AM
i still think a jagED will be next if not a GB/GBC ED  8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 27, 2013, 01:54 AM
I wouldnt mind JagED now that I sold one of my skunkboards...

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Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Duo_r on May 27, 2013, 07:44 AM
If there is a Neo Geo ED please let there be an MVS version. The AES owners could always use a converter.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 27, 2013, 08:16 AM
I wouldnt mind JagED now that I sold one of my skunkboards...
how much did u get for it?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 27, 2013, 08:17 AM
If there is a Neo Geo ED please let there be an MVS version. The AES owners could always use a converter.
krikkz has just bought a AES, why would he make MVS version  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Duo_r on May 27, 2013, 05:41 PM

Because it would support 2 systems in essence. An MVS version with an adapter could work on AES and MVS but an AES version would only work on AES.

If there is a Neo Geo ED please let there be an MVS version. The AES owners could always use a converter.
krikkz has just bought a AES, why would he make MVS version  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 27, 2013, 08:22 PM

Because it would support 2 systems in essence. An MVS version with an adapter could work on AES and MVS but an AES version would only work on AES.

If there is a Neo Geo ED please let there be an MVS version. The AES owners could always use a converter.
krikkz has just bought a AES, why would he make MVS version  :o
adapters are mega expensive though...£130-£160  ???
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on May 27, 2013, 08:38 PM
i would buy Neogeo AFTER JaGUAR Everdrive!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 27, 2013, 10:25 PM

Because it would support 2 systems in essence. An MVS version with an adapter could work on AES and MVS but an AES version would only work on AES.

If there is a Neo Geo ED please let there be an MVS version. The AES owners could always use a converter.
krikkz has just bought a AES, why would he make MVS version  :o

Plus MVS is cheaper to produce. I am just dreaming, but an MVS ED with built in or included AES adapter would be awesome.

I see how mamy people would want a JAMMA ED. There already exist those XXX-in-1 PCB's (which are basically just a PC in JAMMA form), so how would a JAMMA ED be different? Well maybe if it had a built in supergun...

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Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on May 27, 2013, 10:26 PM
Yeah they really rape you with those MVS-to-AES adapters. They are high priced for absolutely no reason whatsoever. MVS owners already have low-priced stuff. MVS owners love to tell me how cheap and easy it is to collect for. They also hate AES owners with a passion. I mean truly hate. MVS owners can do without an Everdrive. Or maybe they can build an AES-to-MVS converter!
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 27, 2013, 10:54 PM
Yeah they really rape you with those MVS-to-AES adapters. They are high priced for absolutely no reason whatsoever. MVS owners already have low-priced stuff. MVS owners love to tell me how cheap and easy it is to collect for. They also hate AES owners with a passion. I mean truly hate. MVS owners can do without an Everdrive. Or maybe they can build an AES-to-MVS converter!

For the price of an MVS to AES converter, you couod probably just get a consolized MVS board. Which is probably what most MVS lovers play their games on anyways. AES (then and now) have always been ridiculously overpriced, and it seems most AES collectors just have them for bragging rights.

An MVS ED makes the most sense - but the technical hurdles may be what is and always has made it not possible. If you think MVS people hate AES, they would think of an MVS flashcart as the ultimate insult. There would be a lot of resistance in their community (I have seen how negatively they have reacted to MVS multicarts) - they are some of the most elitist,  purist, most stringent gamers I have ever encountered.

That's not to say an MVS ED can't or shouldn't be done. Some of those games are so rare and expensive, that it couod nearly be impossible to play some titles short of emulation.

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Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on May 28, 2013, 12:00 AM
It would actually be easier to make an MVS everdrive as well as a AES model than the N8 Famicom and N8 NES.

Both are very similar (slightly different pinout and shorter cart slot) and the MVS actually uses less chips than AES carts as they are actually on the MVS motherboard. This is why converters are so expensive, they usually sacrifice an AES cart for the extra chips.

Here's a 161 in 1 I converted to AES (it looks complicated but it really isn't):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm_25la-FM
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 28, 2013, 12:12 AM
That AES converted multicart goes for ridiculous cash...MVS makes more sense in the long run...

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Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 28, 2013, 01:27 AM
nice vid retrorepair interesting
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on May 28, 2013, 01:32 AM
The MVS won't do for me because it runs too slow to record video from reliably. Not sure why they didn't make the MVS and the AES run at the same exact refresh rate. Dumb ol' SNK.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 28, 2013, 04:43 AM
The MVS won't do for me because it runs too slow to record video from reliably. Not sure why they didn't make the MVS and the AES run at the same exact refresh rate. Dumb ol' SNK.

Because the MVS output to an arcade RGB monitor while the AES had to meet broadcast specs (or at least close enough for TVs of the time). When the engineers made the arcade board, they had no idea crazy people would pay for a home console version.
 :o ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 28, 2013, 11:55 AM
they had no idea crazy people would pay for a home console version.
 :o ;D
aint that the truth LOL
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on May 28, 2013, 09:43 PM
I see how mamy people would want a JAMMA ED. There already exist those XXX-in-1 PCB's (which are basically just a PC in JAMMA form), so how would a JAMMA ED be different? Well maybe if it had a built in supergun...
Yes those are just PCs prepacked with MAME. The JAMMA ED was meant as a joke.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on May 29, 2013, 03:30 AM
Would there be any way for an MVS to be modded to have the same video refresh rate/speed as an AES? RGB monitors are usually multisync so I think the MVS could have run at the same rate with no issues in the arcades.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on May 29, 2013, 03:52 AM
Would there be any way for an MVS to be modded to have the same video refresh rate/speed as an AES? RGB monitors are usually multisync so I think the MVS could have run at the same rate with no issues in the arcades.

Not all RGB monitors are mutisync. I used to have a consolized MVS board, and it ran fine on my RGB monitoe

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Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on May 29, 2013, 05:16 AM
I think it's pretty bitchin' that your post was sent from your SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on May 29, 2013, 11:47 AM
Would there be any way for an MVS to be modded to have the same video refresh rate/speed as an AES? RGB monitors are usually multisync so I think the MVS could have run at the same rate with no issues in the arcades.

Not all RGB monitors are mutisync. I used to have a consolized MVS board, and it ran fine on my RGB monitoe

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I think there's a bit of confusion regarding the term multisync. All RGB monitors have a tolerance for frequency ranges so yes both MVS and AES RGB would be fine on any low res monitor (most out there).

Multisync refers to monitors with a wide ranges of frequencies it can sync to. Usually from 15khz - 31khz (stuff like AES or MVS all the way up to stuff like Naomis and PCs).
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on June 15, 2013, 06:33 PM
Is Jaguar Everdrive ready yet ?  :P
(http://www.pugo.org/media/collection/console/atari_jaguar.jpg)
She's waiting...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on June 15, 2013, 07:52 PM
So is mine...the Skunkboard II is keeping the cart slot nice and warm for a JagED

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Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 16, 2013, 05:19 PM
 ;D what the hell, may aswell make myself heard also...again lol

jaguar everdrive
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on June 17, 2013, 12:39 PM
Your plan to remove the smite button seemed to work well. Now you can bother everyone with that every single day without getting bad karma.

It's annoying. :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 18, 2013, 01:02 AM
Your plan to remove the smite button seemed to work well. Now you can bother everyone with that every single day without getting bad karma.

It's annoying. :(
lol dont read it then...as for my plan? 116 neg rep later lol...im so glad that damn smite is gone..way too many abusers on here -_-
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 19, 2013, 11:32 PM
gb / gbc everdrive, it's what the world truly needs.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 20, 2013, 05:40 AM
GB / GBC / GBA. Krikzz can do it on one PCB.
:)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 20, 2013, 06:37 PM
GB / GBC / GBA. Krikzz can do it on one PCB.
:)

You'd need something that changes shape physically.  The way a gba detects if the game is gba or gbc / gb is the physical shape of the cart activating a tiny switch inside the cartridge slot.  There's a reason why existing gba flashcarts don't run games in true gbc / gb mode.  The easiest solution is to make separate flashcarts for gba and gbc / gb since they need to be physically shaped differently to either activate the switch or not activate it.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on June 20, 2013, 07:05 PM
gb / gbc everdrive, it's what the world truly needs.

NeoGeo AES everdrive is what the world truly needs ;-) or a CD replacement solution for the Neogeo CD (if you can speed up loading 6/7 times I wouldn't mind, thru an actual new CD reader or USB based solution [external HDD], SD not so sure until we get to cheap 128GB/256GB I just don't want to replace a bunch of CDs with a bunch of SD cards and play sd-jockey with them at that point).

Actually what the world truly needs is to chill out and cool off a bit but that's another matter ;-)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 20, 2013, 09:53 PM
gb / gbc everdrive, it's what the world truly needs.
what about world peace  ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 21, 2013, 12:42 AM
gb / gbc everdrive, it's what the world truly needs.
what about world peace  ;D

He should be talking about VideoGaming World ^^
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on June 21, 2013, 04:33 AM
The world need all of these! The world is greedy!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 21, 2013, 04:54 PM
You'd need something that changes shape physically.  The way a gba detects if the game is gba or gbc / gb is the physical shape of the cart activating a tiny switch inside the cartridge slot.  There's a reason why existing gba flashcarts don't run games in true gbc / gb mode.  The easiest solution is to make separate flashcarts for gba and gbc / gb since they need to be physically shaped differently to either activate the switch or not activate it.
I'm saying that it would be neat to have an Everdrive that is able to:
A) Fit into either a GB or GBA shell.
B) Determine whether it should boot in either GB or GBA mode based on what voltage it's receiving. I imagine it'd be fairly easy to decipher, since GB carts use 5V and GBA, 3V.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that the only switch that a GBA determines the cartridge's type is a physical one on the shell.
I also understand that this concept makes for extremely limited board space, but it's fun to speculate. Maybe the complexity of the differences between the two systems' I/Os goes a little deeper than I'm imagining though, in which case, separate Everdrives is probably far more practical.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 21, 2013, 05:17 PM
gb / gbc everdrive, it's what the world truly needs.
what about world peace  ;D

That's an impossible dream.  However a gb / gbc everdrive is doable.

I'm saying that it would be neat to have an Everdrive that is able to:
A) Fit into either a GB or GBA shell.
B) Determine whether it should boot in either GB or GBA mode based on what voltage it's receiving. I imagine it'd be fairly easy to decipher, since GB carts use 5V and GBA, 3V.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that the only switch that a GBA determines the cartridge's type is a physical one on the shell.
I also understand that this concept makes for extremely limited board space, but it's fun to speculate. Maybe the complexity of the differences between the two systems' I/Os goes a little deeper than I'm imagining though, in which case, separate Everdrives is probably far more practical.

You're saying you want a cart that you need to swap the shell every time to want to switch between gba and gbc mode?  That's....annoying...I'd rather just buy two separate carts one for gba and the other for gb / gbc.

Yes the gba determines cartridge type based on the physical shape of the case.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: krikzzfan on June 21, 2013, 07:16 PM
She's Waiting ...  >:(

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XWG4qXOh9cg/T9EHeMIwUKI/AAAAAAAABDQ/0cKTrb_tBnQ/s1600/AtariJaguarCD.gif)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 21, 2013, 08:31 PM
You're saying you want a cart that you need to swap the shell every time to want to switch between gba and gbc mode?  That's....annoying...I'd rather just buy two separate carts one for gba and the other for gb / gbc.

Yes the gba determines cartridge type based on the physical shape of the case.

I'm not saying you'd want to swap the shell every time, obviously that would be annoying and unpractical. I'm just speculating. It'd just be nice to have GB compatibility within a GBA sized cartridge somehow. I suppose some sort of custom made shell with a switch would be the only way to do really do this though and when it comes down to it, it doesn't seem overly feasible.
Just wishful thinking. 2 carts probably makes more sense, I just don't love how GB carts stick so far out of GBA devices.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 21, 2013, 10:13 PM
lol krikzzfan :D mine is waiting too....seriously i reckon krikzz might go back to his GB everdrive and work out the power consumption issues, he has a prototype and it makes sense, having it sticking out a GBA system isnt a issue , id buy a GBC system to truly get the GB experience, GB games on a GBA system doesnt feel right to me id prefer to play it on a GB system, but im in no rush what so ever for a GBA ED as i have a ezflash4 and its the best so far.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on June 21, 2013, 11:35 PM
lol krikzzfan :D mine is waiting too....seriously i reckon krikzz might go back to his GB everdrive and work out the power consumption issues, he has a prototype and it makes sense, having it sticking out a GBA system isnt a issue , id buy a GBC system to truly get the GB experience, GB games on a GBA system doesnt feel right to me id prefer to play it on a GB system, but im in no rush what so ever for a GBA ED as i have a ezflash4 and its the best so far.

get a gameboy light, that is the best thing to play gb games on.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 21, 2013, 11:42 PM
lol krikzzfan :D mine is waiting too....seriously i reckon krikzz might go back to his GB everdrive and work out the power consumption issues, he has a prototype and it makes sense, having it sticking out a GBA system isnt a issue , id buy a GBC system to truly get the GB experience, GB games on a GBA system doesnt feel right to me id prefer to play it on a GB system, but im in no rush what so ever for a GBA ED as i have a ezflash4 and its the best so far.

get a gameboy light, that is the best thing to play gb games on.
i couldnt agree more for that genuine gameboy experience, but id probably go with a backlit modded GB lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on June 21, 2013, 11:43 PM
YEAH Jaguardrive!!! 120 US dollars for only 67 games  :-\

I prefer new Everdrive 64 and/or Super Everdrive
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 21, 2013, 11:47 PM
YEAH Jaguardrive!!! 120 US dollars for only 67 games  :-\

I prefer new Everdrive 64 and/or Super Everdrive
hate the jag all you want but its a cart based system and its never saw a propper flash solution, it has a huge fanbase if you bother to look beyond krikzz.com, it has great homebrew potential, new dev tools are available, the tom and jerry chips inside the jag hasnt been tested to their full potential as of yet even the devs back in the day couldnt handle it 3rd party devs was scared of the multiple chips in the jag as it was difficult to program for, also not to mention a possible fpga solution for the jagCD, we already have a new ED64...its called v2 cant get any better than that, krikzz already helps in the production of SD2SNES so... ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 22, 2013, 05:21 AM
I'm not saying you'd want to swap the shell every time, obviously that would be annoying and unpractical. I'm just speculating. It'd just be nice to have GB compatibility within a GBA sized cartridge somehow. I suppose some sort of custom made shell with a switch would be the only way to do really do this though and when it comes down to it, it doesn't seem overly feasible.
Just wishful thinking. 2 carts probably makes more sense, I just don't love how GB carts stick so far out of GBA devices.

A gba cart won't fit into a gb / gbc slot.

hate the jag all you want but its a cart based system and its never saw a propper flash solution, it has a huge fanbase if you bother to look beyond krikzz.com, it has great homebrew potential, new dev tools are available, the tom and jerry chips inside the jag hasnt been tested to their full potential as of yet even the devs back in the day couldnt handle it 3rd party devs was scared of the multiple chips in the jag as it was difficult to program for, also not to mention a possible fpga solution for the jagCD, we already have a new ED64...its called v2 cant get any better than that, krikzz already helps in the production of SD2SNES so... ::)

So the jag is easier to program for now?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 22, 2013, 05:53 AM
lack of developers is one of the reasons for the jags demise :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 22, 2013, 06:57 AM
A gba cart won't fit into a gb / gbc slot.

1 PCB that:

A) Fits into either a GB or GBA cart.
B) Switches to GB or GBA "mode" based upon received voltage

So, the PCB could be used:
A) In a GB cart, for those who want to exclusively use it for GB/GBC usage in any GB/GBC/GBA system
-OR-
B) In a custom GBA cart shell that could trigger the GBA's mechanical switch (something like a disk's write protection switch) so that the Everdrive could boot in either GB or GBA mode in a GBA system.

Like I said, I realize it's a lot to ask of one cart. The "custom GBA shell" being particularly troublesome, as I doubt Krikzz has much interest in fabricating such a thing.
Maybe 2 separate carts does make more sense, but maybe more SKUs costs more money than a one PCB solution. All I'm saying is that I think it's possible and I think it'd be amazing to have a GBA cart capable of ALL the systems.

And yeah, I'd buy two and keep one in each type of shell since I still like my DMG.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on June 22, 2013, 09:37 AM
So the jag is easier to program for now?

Not so much easier as in all the "quirks" are fairly well documented so you can work around them easier. The current assembler for the JRISC chips not only turns out code that avoids issues, but allows you to run code from the system ram as well as the local ram.

And while the Jaguar has less than 70 original games, there's a pretty decent homebrew scene that turns out a few games every year that require an expensive flash cart (the skunk board) or the BJL cable and supporting game. It's ripe for a GOOD inexpensive flash cart like an Everdrive.

Good example: DrTypo has churned out two great games in the last year - Tube and Fallen Angels. Both can be flashed to the skunkboard, or made into a CD if you have the CD drive, or loaded via the BJL cable, but they'd be far easier to run using a flash cart with SD card support.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 22, 2013, 10:09 AM
I like the way the discution is going. Technical, well documented as argued. As for Jaguar or GB/GBA.
Couldn't we avoid all those "i hate Jag/GB", "I love Jag/GB" "Nah I'm right, Nah you're wrong" "JAG RULES, etc. like kids at school.. ?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 22, 2013, 05:52 PM
A gba cart won't fit into a gb / gbc slot.

1 PCB that:

A) Fits into either a GB or GBA cart.
B) Switches to GB or GBA "mode" based upon received voltage

So, the PCB could be used:
A) In a GB cart, for those who want to exclusively use it for GB/GBC usage in any GB/GBC/GBA system
-OR-
B) In a custom GBA cart shell that could trigger the GBA's mechanical switch (something like a disk's write protection switch) so that the Everdrive could boot in either GB or GBA mode in a GBA system.

Like I said, I realize it's a lot to ask of one cart. The "custom GBA shell" being particularly troublesome, as I doubt Krikzz has much interest in fabricating such a thing.
Maybe 2 separate carts does make more sense, but maybe more SKUs costs more money than a one PCB solution. All I'm saying is that I think it's possible and I think it'd be amazing to have a GBA cart capable of ALL the systems.

And yeah, I'd buy two and keep one in each type of shell since I still like my DMG.

I just compared the slots of my super gameboy and my gba, seems the slots are just as deep, interesting.  Once again you'd need a cartridge case that physically changes shape.  Even if you built one that can do this eventually the plastic that changes the physical properties will break and need replacing making the cart no longer able to go into gb / gbc mode.  Building two separate carts makes more sense.

There's no harm in making a different pcb for the gb / gbc flash device that makes use of the extra space inside the cartridge shell.  There's already existing flashcarts that load games from microsd for the gba, however gb / gbc still doesn't have this treatment.

*edit*

Seems gba flashcarts are all sold out everywhere....okay then, we need a krikzz solution.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 22, 2013, 07:13 PM
i beg the question...would GB/GBC and GBA tech all fit on a small GBA pcb? my gut feeling says no, it would have already been done by now surely guys? 2 pcbs would be needed 1 for GB/GBC and 1 for GBA, if krikzz made a GBA ED id sell my ezflash4 in a heart beat, so we cud safely say we need 3 new everdrives :D 4 if you count the aes, but not likely ever gonna happen.
1)GB/GBC (proto already developed by krikzz)
2)GBA (all other "chinese" devices sell out and become quickly obsolete, a everdrive branded flash cart would be the best seller for sure)
3)jaguar (apparently its easy to develop the actual flash cart, but lack of commercial games questions it, but im sure a jag everdrive would be the jag flash solution all jag owners have been longing for)
4)neo geo aes (neo geo fans wud more than likely kick up a big stink if krikzz ever made one)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on June 22, 2013, 07:42 PM
Seems gba flashcarts are all sold out everywhere....okay then, we need a krikzz solution.

that is true unfortunately. the last good sd cart for gba was ez flash iv and it is getting harder and harder to find one. i really wish krikzz would make 2 everdrives both for gba and gb/gbc.

my gba advance sp ags 101 and gameboy light are ready for these 2 everdrives.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 23, 2013, 01:02 AM
the last good sd cart for gba was ez flash iv and it is getting harder and harder to find one
keeping mine under lock and key until a better solution arrives  8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on June 23, 2013, 10:21 AM
I don't think NeoFlash will EVER run out of GBA carts - they made so many that they started making adapters to allow using the GBA carts on other consoles, that's how many they have. :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on June 23, 2013, 10:41 AM
I don't think NeoFlash will EVER run out of GBA carts - they made so many that they started making adapters to allow using the GBA carts on other consoles, that's how many they have. :D


yup i forgot that. though the sd card adapter is extra if i am not wrong and the total price is expensive from what i remember. can't remember the exact price unfortunately.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 23, 2013, 12:35 PM
i used to have the neo 2 pro GBA SD cart and a N64 myth 256m, my 1st flash cart i ever bought :)
paid $139 for N64 myth and $89 for neo 2 pro
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 23, 2013, 02:29 PM
I bought the Neo myth64 in the very first days. I thnk i bought it about 200$, and about the same as you, 90$ for the Neo 2Pro.
Very expensive compared to the actual flashcard availables, but, well, it was the only one at this time.
And i've been waiting for it for so long time...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on June 23, 2013, 06:08 PM
We already have a new ED64...its called v2 cant get any better than that, krikzz already helps in the production of SD2SNES so... ::)

For example with ED64  we cant backup save data from original cartridges. I want all my time trials records from Mario Kart, Diddy Kong Racing. I want my masks, weapons, hearts from TLOZ Majoras Mask


Save datas are more important than roms. Save datas are time spent
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Duo_r on June 23, 2013, 06:22 PM
We can't backup save data on N64? I am pretty sure I saved my game just fine :-)


Ok I vote for a Gameboy portable flash cart next. I have a GBA but there never was a good solution for original GBA / GBC.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 23, 2013, 07:52 PM
We already have a new ED64...its called v2 cant get any better than that, krikzz already helps in the production of SD2SNES so... ::)
For example with ED64  we cant backup save data from original cartridges. I want all my time trials records from Mario Kart, Diddy Kong Racing. I want my masks, weapons, hearts from TLOZ Majoras Mask

Save datas are more important than roms. Save datas are time spent

I agree with dvd; Maybe for the 64, it'd be nice to have control pak data backed up automatically like SRAM data is, but that would just be an OS update. There's no need for a new Super ED or ED64.

I am pretty sure I saved my game just fine :-)
Yup.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 23, 2013, 08:09 PM
magnus87 should be talking about backup from cartridge save itself, and not only controller pack.
it's a really good suggestion, but maybe not so easy to code/set up.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 23, 2013, 08:14 PM
For example with ED64  we cant backup save data from original cartridges
well of course you cant, why would anyone wanna do that if they have the original carts anyway, it dont make no sense what so ever..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 23, 2013, 08:16 PM
magnus87 should be talking about backup from cartridge save itself, and not only controller pack.
it's a really good suggestion, but maybe not so easy to code/set up.
and how would u stick the original cart to the ED64? i dont think krikzz wud want his ED64 looking like that crappy ED64plus or a myth cart lol dont make sense anyway, if u have original carts then why even bother with ED64  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 23, 2013, 08:31 PM
I have a GBA but there never was a good solution for original GBA
actually there was, ezflash4 is the best so far
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 23, 2013, 08:33 PM
For example with ED64  we cant backup save data from original cartridges
well of course you cant, why would anyone wanna do that if they have the original carts anyway, it dont make no sense what so ever..
Because save data are due to batteries that can be down. You should know that, and you can find many how-to on internet to change them.
Because many videogame sites offer save sharing for anyone who would try any special option won with a full-game save.
It's not because you don't care about it that nobody won't care too...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on June 23, 2013, 08:36 PM
none of my flashcards have an option to backup saves from original carts. you generally have to buy additional hardware for it, like "mega memory card" for gb. or there are some cartridge readers which can also backup and rewrite saves to original cartridges and can be connected via usb to pc.

so it is hard (and probably expensive too) to add this functionality to flash cards.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 23, 2013, 08:37 PM
Because many videogame sites offer save sharing for anyone who would try any special option won with a full-game save.
yes ppl upload saves which they did while playing games on a emulator or a flash device, backing up sram from originals aint never gonna happen i cant see krikzz ever considering another revision because of it, you may have to look elsewhere, if you care about it so much im sure there is expensive equipment you can buy so u can share ur saves over the internet LOL nuff sed about it now its ridiculous  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on June 23, 2013, 09:00 PM
you can backup some save types if you have an old style copier and the right software. there was a program for the doctor v64 which allows you to backup 4k eeprom which is most common cart type save from cart to mempak. then of course with ed64 you can backup saves from mempak to sd card, i think the function only backs up complete mempak images though not individual save files. this program could be used on other copiers also.
 there was another tool for the cd64 only which allowed you to backup all cart save types (4k eeprom, 16k eeprom, 32k sram and 1m flashram). while linking the cd64 to your pac you transfered the saves that way. i think this tool may have been compatible with the old doctor v64 jnr flashcarts aswell.
 all this is kinda irrelevant unless you already have an old copier because even when you track one down these backup units can be kinda expensive these days. but yes with the right hardware it can be done. i have never seen a cartridge reader like reprep mentioned for the n64 though, would be an handy gadget that. luckily enough i never had many original n64 carts. i had a doctor v64 copier from the beginning.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 23, 2013, 09:04 PM
For example with ED64  we cant backup save data from original cartridges
well of course you cant, why would anyone wanna do that if they have the original carts anyway, it dont make no sense what so ever..

I guess this was where my misunderstanding was. I certainly don't expect any of my Everdrives to backup SRAM from an original cart  ???
I don't blame my screwdriver when I can't tighten a hex bolt with it. I get another tool.

Man, we're a demanding bunch, lol.
Krikzz, can you make the next Everdrive end world hunger please? Thanks.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 23, 2013, 09:08 PM
Because many videogame sites offer save sharing for anyone who would try any special option won with a full-game save.
yes ppl upload saves which they did while playing games on a emulator or a flash device, backing up sram from originals aint never gonna happen i cant see krikzz ever considering another revision because of it, you may have to look elsewhere, if you care about it so much im sure there is expensive equipment you can buy so u can share ur saves over the internet LOL nuff sed about it now its ridiculous  :o
I added my post to explain why original cartridge save backup is useful.
ED64 will not have this feature because you can't plug an original cartridge. If you had reply this way to magnus87, i would not have posted anything. But you laughed at him for his suggestion. That was not gentle.
Nor your last post too...

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on June 23, 2013, 09:14 PM
i have never seen a cartridge reader like reprep mentioned for the n64 though, would be an handy gadget that.

yup, you are right. i have seen ones for gba,gb,nes,snes but not for N64. we should still be grateful we can backup mempak to sd cart in everdrive 64 as most third party games use mem pak. and if you do enough hex-editing or use some programs i don't know (i never had the need) you can extract individual N64 saves and use them with emulators etc.

for gb, i have succesfully extracted my pokemon yellow save from my original cartridge and used it in a pc gb emulator.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on June 23, 2013, 09:49 PM
magnus87 should be talking about backup from cartridge save itself, and not only controller pack.
it's a really good suggestion, but maybe not so easy to code/set up.

Exactly

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/9117458847_1b0c132f4e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 23, 2013, 11:38 PM
My confusion persists.

You can backup, restore, save EEPROM, 4X EEPROM, SRAM, FlashRAM and physical Controller Pak data to/from the SD card with the Everdrive. We are all aware of and on the same page with this, yes?

The Everdrive cannot do any of this with a physical, original, stock N64 cartridge. If the claim is that it should do this, please allow me to disagree. It'd be a waste of resources, money and most importantly, Krikzz's time spent developing.

In no particular order, is the general consensus that the following are logical, desired devices?

GB/GBC Everdrive
GBA Everdrive
Jaguar Everdrive
NeoGeo AES/MVS Everdrive

I would personally buy 3 of these devices upon release.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 24, 2013, 12:16 AM
sorry 4 my previous posts, but there is no way of extracting saved games from original carts to a ED64 even with a OS update its never ever gonna happen, cart inputs are only for CIC bypass (neo myth and that chinese clone ED64v1 used it)
back to topic
im always gonna vote jag because it deserves a propper flash cart and not a piss poor one, skunkboard is deffo piss poor  >:(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on June 24, 2013, 07:38 AM
In no particular order, is the general consensus that the following are logical, desired devices?

GB/GBC Everdrive
GBA Everdrive
Jaguar Everdrive
NeoGeo AES/MVS Everdrive

I would personally buy 3 of these devices upon release.

I would buy all 4 of these.  I have "all" of the EDs so far (I have a Mega Everdrive, so no need for the Everdrive MD; and I just ordered the SD2SNES so no Super Everdrive, thus my use of quotes) and absolutely love them.  Honestly, I'll buy anything Krikzz puts out, but if he produces a cart that I already have a high quality one for (and most of the HQ ones other people are putting out are for significantly older systems than Krikzz seems to be developing for), I might have to think about it for a bit.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on June 24, 2013, 06:12 PM

The Everdrive cannot do any of this with a physical, original, stock N64 cartridge. If the claim is that it should do this, please allow me to disagree. It'd be a waste of resources, money and most importantly, Krikzz's time spent developing.

Why Not? Today your cartridges are worinkg but what will happen tomorrow?. Its a method to preserve those cartridges


You can download a rom everywhere but you cant download own memories and record of this rom.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/9127354028_10b18962fd.jpg)


You suggested it a Everdrive GB, well imagine transferring all your pokemon from your original cartridge to EverDrive without a link cable and other gameboy
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 24, 2013, 07:09 PM
I'm not arguing that they shouldn't exist nor am I saying it wouldn't be a good item to own.
I'm just saying that it is of my opinion that it makes more sense to complete the "Everdrive Lineup" before venturing into projects like the one you're suggesting. Even if Krikzz were to make this, what next? A second SKU for every single console he's ever done? Custom fabrication for every single plastic cart for every console?

And yes, a GB Everdrive would be amazing, but I certainly don't want it to look like a GameShark.

Not that it's important to the debate, but I don't think I'd buy an N64 one. I don't consider my save files to be all that precious. I'd rather just run through the game again, relive those memories and create new ones, rather than beginning from where I left off 10+ years ago.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 24, 2013, 08:37 PM
And i think that the complete re-design of the ED64 board would be a huge work ; and i think that Krikzz has some project more "important" to spend his time.
At least for now :)
Let's keep this projext for his "retirement".
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 24, 2013, 10:05 PM
And i think that the complete re-design of the ED64 board would be a huge work ; and i think that Krikzz has some project more "important" to spend his time.
At least for now :)
Let's keep this projext for his "retirement".
I agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 24, 2013, 11:59 PM
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/9127354028_10b18962fd.jpg)
actually that maybe possible, look up super ufo pro 8 same sort of thing but for snes and that can play donor carts (pretty much a import adapter) and also extract the save files, cant see krikzz redesigning the ED64 tho...especially if its looks like a cheap chinese flashcart  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on June 25, 2013, 12:27 AM
I do not understand how you are not interested in preserving the cartridges :'(

The design was just an example. could be any shape


Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on June 25, 2013, 12:32 AM
I do not understand how you are not interested in preserving the cartridges :'(

The design was just an example. could be any shape
i dont own any carts, having a ED64 i dont see the need to, but i suppose it could be like a neo myth design having the cart on the backside and SD slot left where it is
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8676/mix2p.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 25, 2013, 01:25 AM
I'm not arguing that they shouldn't exist nor am I saying it wouldn't be a good item to own.
I'm just saying that it is of my opinion that it makes more sense to complete the "Everdrive Lineup" before venturing into projects like the one you're suggesting. Even if Krikzz were to make this, what next? A second SKU for every single console he's ever done? Custom fabrication for every single plastic cart for every console?

And yes, a GB Everdrive would be amazing, but I certainly don't want it to look like a GameShark.

Not that it's important to the debate, but I don't think I'd buy an N64 one. I don't consider my save files to be all that precious. I'd rather just run through the game again, relive those memories and create new ones, rather than beginning from where I left off 10+ years ago.

Exactly sums up how I feel.  Usually after I clear a game I delete the save and start all over.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on June 25, 2013, 01:58 AM
dvd2vcd may not have N64 cartridges but I have them for over 10 years and I would like to hold them until the day I die

Usually after I clear a game I delete the save and start all over.

 :o :(

The saves files represents the time we spend with the game. The worst thing that can happen is losing that saved data.

unfortunately in N64, the memory is stored in the same game cartridge. Not like PSX and memory cards
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on June 25, 2013, 04:37 AM
:o :(

The saves files represents the time we spend with the game. The worst thing that can happen is losing that saved data.

unfortunately in N64, the memory is stored in the same game cartridge. Not like PSX and memory cards

The save file is just a way to be able to halt and continue my progress at a later time.  Once I've cleared the game I see no point in keeping it saved.  The enjoyment of gaming to me is the journey from start to finish.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 25, 2013, 09:29 AM
I do not understand how you are not interested in preserving the cartridges :'(

The design was just an example. could be any shape

You must have not read my last posts.
I understand and agree your idea, i explained that it would not be so easy. That's all.
I'm not arguing that they shouldn't exist nor am I saying it wouldn't be a good item to own.
I'm just saying that it is of my opinion that it makes more sense to complete the "Everdrive Lineup" before venturing into projects like the one you're suggesting. Even if Krikzz were to make this, what next? A second SKU for every single console he's ever done? Custom fabrication for every single plastic cart for every console?

And yes, a GB Everdrive would be amazing, but I certainly don't want it to look like a GameShark.

Not that it's important to the debate, but I don't think I'd buy an N64 one. I don't consider my save files to be all that precious. I'd rather just run through the game again, relive those memories and create new ones, rather than beginning from where I left off 10+ years ago.

Exactly sums up how I feel.  Usually after I clear a game I delete the save and start all over.
:o :(

The saves files represents the time we spend with the game. The worst thing that can happen is losing that saved data.

unfortunately in N64, the memory is stored in the same game cartridge. Not like PSX and memory cards

The save file is just a way to be able to halt and continue my progress at a later time.  Once I've cleared the game I see no point in keeping it saved.  The enjoyment of gaming to me is the journey from start to finish.

i'm not totally agree with your idea.
For some games, i feel like you. Playing a game could be compared to a journey, or watching a film. Once its' over, well, why watch only the end ?
But for some others, you played, spent soOo much times to beat a score or to won an item. Those who played Perfect Dark and won every cheats know what I mean ! (those damn fu**ing perfect bots...) YES yes, i know what you'll reply to me. You can save your Perfect Dark play on the mem card. It was just an exemple. It's the same for GoldenEye or other games like Diddy Kong Racing. It's just that Perfect Dark had to be like a nightmare to me :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on June 25, 2013, 01:55 PM
i'm not totally agree with your idea.
For some games, i feel like you. Playing a game could be compared to a journey, or watching a film. Once its' over, well, why watch only the end ?
But for some others, you played, spent soOo much times to beat a score or to won an item. Those who played Perfect Dark and won every cheats know what I mean ! (those damn fu**ing perfect bots...) YES yes, i know what you'll reply to me. You can save your Perfect Dark play on the mem card. It was just an exemple. It's the same for GoldenEye or other games like Diddy Kong Racing. It's just that Perfect Dark had to be like a nightmare to me :)
While it would be nice to backup all my GoldenEye data, having an abominable Everdrive with a female slot doesn't seem like the way to do it. I maintain my opinion that this would be a job better reserved for a separate unit. Something that does ROM dumps would be a better contender.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on June 25, 2013, 02:14 PM
I understand.
Even if, like Krikzz about Everdrive's menu, i prefer useness to esthetic (to a certain limit of course !)
As old devices, I can remember the DexDrive from Interact that does mempack backup, but i can't find anything working for the internal cartridge saves...

About the Dexdrive, i don't even know if it backup the whole mempack, or if you can choose and manage the different saves. It could be interesting to check this, as the ED64 does the entire backup without selection (for now and for what i can remember).

EDIT: reading the DexDrive manual (http://www.angelfire.com/games/winospsxdexdrive/dexdrive.PDF), it seems to be able to select which save to backup/restore.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 02, 2013, 10:46 AM
hows the jaguar ED development coming along krikzz ;) lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on July 04, 2013, 03:27 AM
Mine is Waiting too...  ;)

(http://retroactivo.es/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/jaguar2.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on July 05, 2013, 12:53 AM
and mine...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1002766_10152978253170224_33857462_n.jpg)

my old jag came back from a loan no longer working, so i bought a pair of "faulty, no power" jags today, £25 for the pair, with box, psu's, pads etc, got em home, opened em up, all looked fine, so plugged em in, nothing, then remembered i needed to plug a cart in before they'd power up, plugged in cart, and yay, both worked perfect... bargain :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on July 05, 2013, 02:41 AM
Mine isn't.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 05, 2013, 03:07 AM
wow idodd deffo a bargain  8) and a good re-sell opportunity ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on July 05, 2013, 08:15 PM
JAGUAR, JAGUAR , JAGUAR !!! 

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Atari-Jaguar-Console-Back.jpg/500px-Atari-Jaguar-Console-Back.jpg)

From a different angle...  :P
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on July 06, 2013, 01:11 AM
wow idodd deffo a bargain  8) and a good re-sell opportunity ;)

like most of my stuff, i'll keep hold of it until i'm jobless, then i'll flog some of it to pay bills...

of course, i'd happily give one to Igor, gratis, if it's needed  ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 06, 2013, 05:48 AM
wow idodd deffo a bargain  8) and a good re-sell opportunity ;)

like most of my stuff, i'll keep hold of it until i'm jobless, then i'll flog some of it to pay bills...

of course, i'd happily give one to Igor, gratis, if it's needed  ;)
ahh ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on July 11, 2013, 08:54 PM
They keep on waiting...  ;D

(http://www.besttechie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/jaguar.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on July 11, 2013, 10:33 PM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 12, 2013, 10:23 AM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vonkhades on July 14, 2013, 03:34 AM
(http://www.jwnyc.com/games/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/gb01.jpg)

or gameboy!!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on July 14, 2013, 10:58 AM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?

guess?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 14, 2013, 07:37 PM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?

guess?
i hate guessin games but im guessing your a jag hater?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on July 14, 2013, 07:57 PM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?

guess?
i hate guessin games but im guessing your a jag hater?

i am a "let's post the same thing over and over till we make krikzz and everybody on the site hate jaguar" hater.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 14, 2013, 10:00 PM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?

guess?
i hate guessin games but im guessing your a jag hater?

i am a "let's post the same thing over and over till we make krikzz and everybody on the site hate jaguar" hater.
i very much doubt krikzz will say he hates jaguar, everyone has their own opinion about jaguar, if you dont like it then dont read it and dont troll about jaguar posts..simple
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on July 14, 2013, 10:37 PM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?

guess?
i hate guessin games but im guessing your a jag hater?

i am a "let's post the same thing over and over till we make krikzz and everybody on the site hate jaguar" hater.
i very much doubt krikzz will say he hates jaguar, everyone has their own opinion about jaguar, if you dont like it then dont read it and dont troll about jaguar posts..simple

troll about jaguar posts? you are really funny.

as i like this place, i won't reply in this conversation any more but believe me i am very sick of jaguar conversations in this thread and i am pretty sure i am not alone.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 15, 2013, 05:50 AM
i just want to puke whenever i see a jaguar pic in this thread.
why?

guess?
i hate guessin games but im guessing your a jag hater?

i am a "let's post the same thing over and over till we make krikzz and everybody on the site hate jaguar" hater.
i very much doubt krikzz will say he hates jaguar, everyone has their own opinion about jaguar, if you dont like it then dont read it and dont troll about jaguar posts..simple

troll about jaguar posts? you are really funny.

as i like this place, i won't reply in this conversation any more but believe me i am very sick of jaguar conversations in this thread and i am pretty sure i am not alone.
for the sake of disclosure...i am pretty sure im not alone when i say jaguar deserves a everdrive, there is a wide audience that feels the same too (if you bother to look outside krikzz.com) every cart based console deserves a everdrive! and this thread is for upcomming everdrives!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 15, 2013, 06:15 PM
I'm not saying I don't want the jag to have an everdrive, I just wish classic gb / gbc gets one first.  I do think that krikzz will respond better to more people saying they want a jag everdrive, instead of the same 2-3 people repeating it over and over again.  Maybe we can make a poll thread so you vote once and it's added to the total?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on July 15, 2013, 09:49 PM
I'm not saying I don't want the jag to have an everdrive, I just wish classic gb / gbc gets one first.  I do think that krikzz will respond better to more people saying they want a jag everdrive, instead of the same 2-3 people repeating it over and over again.  Maybe we can make a poll thread so you vote once and it's added to the total?

Completely agree with you
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 15, 2013, 09:58 PM
there was a poll on this thread which i voted, GB/GBC obviously has the highest votes, il be more than happy with a GB/GBC everdrive
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Ahuch on July 15, 2013, 11:46 PM
there was a poll on this thread which i voted, GB/GBC obviously has the highest votes, il be more than happy with a GB/GBC everdrive

I would love a GB/GBC Everdrive. Although there are still solutions available for GB/GBC, I really don't feel they are future proof enough to justify a purchase.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on July 16, 2013, 12:32 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Jaguar_Logo.png)
Everdrive Ready...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Relikk on July 16, 2013, 12:53 AM
i am pretty sure i am not alone.

You most certainly are not.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 16, 2013, 01:31 AM
there was a poll on this thread which i voted, GB/GBC obviously has the highest votes, il be more than happy with a GB/GBC everdrive

I would love a GB/GBC Everdrive. Although there are still solutions available for GB/GBC, I really don't feel they are future proof enough to justify a purchase.

SD loading solution is what we really need.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on July 16, 2013, 08:27 PM
 8)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/164927_629738230380525_2147139654_n.jpg)

(as much as i'd love a jag ED, i still can't afford the rest of the current range, so i'm not overly fussed which Igor decides to tackle next... if any)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
hes already made a new everdrive...EDMD version 3...why is beyond me  ???
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on July 16, 2013, 08:41 PM
hes already made a new everdrive...EDMD version 3...why is beyond me  ???

ah, see, this is why i like igor's work, there's an obvious passion which dictates what he does... gotta admire an attitude like that...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 16, 2013, 08:46 PM
hes already made a new everdrive...EDMD version 3...why is beyond me  ???

ah, see, this is why i like igor's work, there's an obvious passion which dictates what he does... gotta admire an attitude like that...
i dont get it though, with megaED why would he? EDMD needed passion driven software OS updates not a re-designed cart  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on July 17, 2013, 09:50 AM
I think that Krikzz knows better than anyone here what needs what ...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 17, 2013, 04:34 PM
it aint all that much better anyway, it resets to menu and has support for crappy firecore clones  ::) im just hopeing support will still be available with old EDMD
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 18, 2013, 12:14 AM
i dont get it though, with megaED why would he? EDMD needed passion driven software OS updates not a re-designed cart  :o

I like his hardware updating.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on July 18, 2013, 01:45 AM
it's great that he is improving things hardware and software wise fair play. his dedication and support to his products is impressive to say the least.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: FriendofSonic on July 18, 2013, 09:03 AM
I just ordered a Mega Ever Drive. Did I miss out on version 3?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: muckyfingers on July 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
I just ordered a Mega Ever Drive. Did I miss out on version 3?

Version 3 is for the regular EverdriveMD (the one without save states) not the Mega Everdrive.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 18, 2013, 10:48 PM
I just ordered a Mega Ever Drive. Did I miss out on version 3?
just hope krikzz dont re-design the megaED next week lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Troyus on July 18, 2013, 11:05 PM
When he announces new versions they usually ship straight away from what I have seen. he has even said he will replace the v2 with v3 if bought within the last month. No point in sending out V2.

I dont mind as my v2 still works fine.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 19, 2013, 01:27 AM
Updating the hardware is way better than going all powerpak and keeping it exactly the same for 8 years.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 19, 2013, 01:51 AM
Updating the hardware is way better than going all powerpak and keeping it exactly the same for 8 years.
true but if you buy megaED and its delivered to your home then 1 week later megaEDv2 is built i think you will be pretty let down.. EDMDv3 wasnt announced it was released completely out of the blue, yes krikzz said he will ship out v3 with current orders which is good but what about others that have just recieved old EDMD at there home.. :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 19, 2013, 01:59 AM
When he announces new versions they usually ship straight away from what I have seen.
not true, he announced EDn8 4 months before it was available  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on July 19, 2013, 04:55 AM
It would be awesome if a new veraion of the PCE/TG16 and MegaDrive/Genesis ED came lut to allow flashing from CD so no PC is needed to reflash

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on July 19, 2013, 05:02 AM
why the hate for evMD v3? he doesn't increase the price, he doesn't cut functionality of previous versions, so?

would it be better if he sold the exact hardware for years? then everybody would start to complain how he doesn't improve his flash cards etc.

i know owners of everdrive MD feels bad about this but just get over it. i bought myself a ps3 and now a ps4 is coming. you buy a 3ds and suddenly 3ds xl appears for about the same price. that is how technology is.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 19, 2013, 05:56 AM
who said anything about hating EDMDv3 lol just saying there wasnt anything wrong with old EDMD but was told the menu was gonna be re-written for EDMD and yes indeed it was but for EDMDv3 and theres gonna be no port for old EDMD, so already old EDMD users are suffering lol just hopeing support for old EDMD doesnt doesnt get ignored now EDMDv3 is out, doesnt seem worth selling off my old EDMD just for 2 new features, instead id get a MEGAED
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 19, 2013, 06:11 AM
Updating the hardware is way better than going all powerpak and keeping it exactly the same for 8 years.
true but if you buy megaED and its delivered to your home then 1 week later megaEDv2 is built i think you will be pretty let down.. EDMDv3 wasnt announced it was released completely out of the blue, yes krikzz said he will ship out v3 with current orders which is good but what about others that have just recieved old EDMD at there home.. :o

If nobody bought v2 he wouldn't have been able to afford making a v3.  We should shut up and be happy that his products exist at all.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: FriendofSonic on July 19, 2013, 06:49 AM
I just ordered a Mega Ever Drive. Did I miss out on version 3?

Version 3 is for the regular EverdriveMD (the one without save states) not the Mega Everdrive.
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Oh cool-- thanks!

Innovation is always fine. Krizz is clearly not underdeveloping his hardware ala Nintendo with their handhelds in order to have a new version to cash in with.

Somewhere else, I had read some cryptic thing that Krizz was going to have a total of 9 flashcarts on the market this year. Unless he's counting old versions of the Turbo and SNES flashcarts, I'm not sure that's true since this thread doesn't seem to have any information. Whatever he decides to do, I'll be excited for! I just made a full order last week for a little under 700 dollars at his shop, so I'm excited to dig in.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on July 19, 2013, 10:27 AM
Updating the hardware is way better than going all powerpak and keeping it exactly the same for 8 years.
true but if you buy megaED and its delivered to your home then 1 week later megaEDv2 is built i think you will be pretty let down.. EDMDv3 wasnt announced it was released completely out of the blue, yes krikzz said he will ship out v3 with current orders which is good but what about others that have just recieved old EDMD at there home.. :o

If nobody bought v2 he wouldn't have been able to afford making a v3.  We should shut up and be happy that his products exist at all.

Some people here should really learn how to shut up and stop complaining...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on July 19, 2013, 07:44 PM
i will buy Jaguar Everdrive v1,v2,v3 ....  :P
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 19, 2013, 07:49 PM
Some people here should really learn how to shut up and stop complaining...
:o blah blah...read and remember your own words when your flash cart stops having updates and support  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Troyus on July 19, 2013, 09:15 PM
Some people here should really learn how to shut up and stop complaining...
:o blah blah...read and remember your own words when your flash cart stops having updates and support  ::)

Why would you perpetually need that?
As long as it works, then alls well.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 19, 2013, 10:56 PM
Some people here should really learn how to shut up and stop complaining...
:o blah blah...read and remember your own words when your flash cart stops having updates and support  ::)

So...buy the newer model.  You can only update a crappy older model so much.  Hardware limitations will only allow it to do so much.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 20, 2013, 12:46 AM
Why would you perpetually need that?
As long as it works, then alls well.
EDMD needed sms sega mapper update
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 20, 2013, 12:49 AM
So...buy the newer model.
:o like im made of money lol if i do decide to upgrade il get megaED v2 (joke)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on July 20, 2013, 01:07 AM
I must say that v3 was make not for people who already have v2x, not to force them to buy new cart. V3 was made cuz i can make better a bit, but self cost is almost same, for same price i can sell better device. Also i need to reduce EMI level to pass EMC tests. v2 was made more than 3 years ago, i did not have hardware development skill, so, hardware design was not perfect, but it worked (:
About v2 updates i can say that there is nothing to update, may be except menu interface. I think v2 life was long enough
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 20, 2013, 01:12 AM
i suppose it makes sense if EDMDv3 is easier and cost effective for hardware tech but a EDMDv2 new menu would have been awesome, and possibly a new sms sega mapper (must be a reason for asterix not to work and there is a few revisions of the sega mapper) its buggin me that myth cart can run it but ED cannot :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on July 20, 2013, 11:44 AM
Some people here should really learn how to shut up and stop complaining...
:o blah blah...read and remember your own words when your flash cart stops having updates and support  ::)

I have many many flashcarts and copiers from '90s to now that don't have updates anymore.
So is the electronic market...
Are you discovering this with the EDMD3 ?

And please, please, stop to always complain/criticize/argue every words...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 20, 2013, 12:29 PM
Some people here should really learn how to shut up and stop complaining...
:o blah blah...read and remember your own words when your flash cart stops having updates and support  ::)

I have many many flashcarts and copiers from '90s to now that don't have updates anymore.
So is the electronic market...
Are you discovering this with the EDMD3 ?

And please, please, stop to always complain/criticize/argue every words...
il try lol  ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on July 23, 2013, 02:00 AM
So...buy the newer model.
:o like im made of money lol if i do decide to upgrade il get megaED v2 (joke)

Haha.  These carts save me a huge amount of money, I don't see buying another as any problem.  Like Mockylock says this is how the electronics world works.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on July 23, 2013, 02:03 AM
So...buy the newer model.
:o like im made of money lol if i do decide to upgrade il get megaED v2 (joke)

Haha.  These carts save me a huge amount of money, I don't see this as any problem.  Like Mockylock says this is how the electronics world works.
true, they do save a huge packet, some rare sega titles like streets of rage 3 and alien soldier cost a small fortune  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on August 03, 2013, 01:33 PM
i just noticed in another thread that Igor's karma rating currently reads... +111/-1
firstly i'm wondering who gave the smite, but i'm mainly wondering if it was given cos he'd asked himself for a jaguar everdrive at some point  ;D

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on August 03, 2013, 05:37 PM
i just noticed in another thread that Igor's karma rating currently reads... +111/-1
firstly i'm wondering who gave the smite, but i'm mainly wondering if it was given cos he'd asked himself for a jaguar everdrive at some point  ;D
LOL +1 for that  ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on August 05, 2013, 05:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FX9cCegEsDA&list=PLC64BBA079542067B
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on August 08, 2013, 01:51 AM
I just recently discovered that about 99% of cps2 arcade games use the exact same b board pcb.  Therefore I say, we need a cps2 flash device haha.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on August 08, 2013, 05:06 PM
i tried watching that jag video on youtube a few days ago, and that synthesized voice made me want to throw my laptop through the window, i mean, why go to all the effort of stitching together all them clips, only to ruin it by not being arsed to do a decent voiceover?

also, speaking of arcade boards, anyone heard any news about the openjamma board lately? last i heard was talk of an august beta release...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on August 08, 2013, 10:36 PM
i tried watching that jag video on youtube a few days ago, and that synthesized voice made me want to throw my laptop through the window, i mean, why go to all the effort of stitching together all them clips, only to ruin it by not being arsed to do a decent voiceover?

That synthesized voice over video is VERY popular on YouTube - especially on clip shows (of all types, not just game clips). I would guess that whatever software most people currently use to edit video has an option to automatically add synthesized voice over from a text file, so most folks just use it rather than deal with the hassle of recording an actual person and then needing to edit the voice tracks along with the video. In other words, it's the lazy way of doing it.  ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Redifer on August 09, 2013, 01:22 AM
Whoever made that video also stretched 4:3 games to fit a 16:9 screen. I can't watch crap like that. Automatic thumbs-down from me (if the videomaker had the balls to enable ratings).
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on August 09, 2013, 05:42 AM
Whoever made that video also stretched 4:3 games to fit a 16:9 screen. I can't watch crap like that. Automatic thumbs-down from me (if the videomaker had the balls to enable ratings).

Why do you have so many negative reps?  You're a pretty cool guy who doesn't get on peoples nerves from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on August 09, 2013, 06:33 AM
Whoever made that video also stretched 4:3 games to fit a 16:9 screen. I can't watch crap like that. Automatic thumbs-down from me (if the videomaker had the balls to enable ratings).

Why do you have so many negative reps?  You're a pretty cool guy who doesn't get on peoples nerves from what I've seen.

There are some folks on the board that liked to down vote ANYBODY on the board - it was why that power was disabled by KRIKzz. It was being horribly abused.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on August 09, 2013, 02:20 PM
Whoever made that video also stretched 4:3 games to fit a 16:9 screen. I can't watch crap like that. Automatic thumbs-down from me (if the videomaker had the balls to enable ratings).

Why do you have so many negative reps?  You're a pretty cool guy who doesn't get on peoples nerves from what I've seen.

There are some folks on the board that liked to down vote ANYBODY on the board - it was why that power was disabled by KRIKzz. It was being horribly abused.
aint that the truth! lol look at my neg rep :( i aint such a bad guy..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on August 09, 2013, 07:15 PM
aint that the truth! lol look at my neg rep :( i aint such a bad guy..

True that, I guess it was a fun experiment while it lasted.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: kokie on August 10, 2013, 08:42 AM
Guys , did Krizz mention his next Everdrive somewhere in this thread? I don't want to read all 49 pages.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on August 10, 2013, 04:48 PM
Guys , did Krizz mention his next Everdrive somewhere in this thread? I don't want to read all 49 pages.

Yes he did, I forget which page it's on  8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on August 10, 2013, 07:12 PM
Guys , did Krizz mention his next Everdrive somewhere in this thread? I don't want to read all 49 pages.
From just breezing through all the pages for about 5 mins, looking for KRIKzz's posts, here's what I conjured up:

He will never make an NG AES ED. (may change, dunno. But everything he mentions points that everything will be complex to complete).
He has attempted a GB/GBC ED, but due to a power issue (the ED needed more power than what the GB could provide, or something of the sort), he has sidelined that project.

From what I breezed through, roughly about 50-70% of the posts here are for Jaguar ED. :o ...OK, that might be a gross exaggeration, but I think this was everyone's next ED request. I'm inclined to agree solely on the fact that IT'S GETTING OLD SEEING DVD2VCD ASK FOR IT IN EVERY POST! LOL!

All honesty, I wouldn't mind having an ED flash cartridge solution for all the cartridge based consoles. I currently am on the hunt for a Jaguar to add to my console collection, but I'm mainly focused on getting a Panasonic branded 3DO before that.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on August 10, 2013, 08:21 PM
From what I breezed through, roughly about 50-70% of the posts here are for Jaguar ED. :o ...OK, that might be a gross exaggeration, but I think this was everyone's next ED request. I'm inclined to agree solely on the fact that IT'S GETTING OLD SEEING DVD2VCD ASK FOR IT IN EVERY POST! LOL!
::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on August 10, 2013, 08:58 PM

From what I breezed through, roughly about 50-70% of the posts here are for Jaguar ED. :o ...OK, that might be a gross exaggeration, but I think this was everyone's next ED request. I'm inclined to agree solely on the fact that IT'S GETTING OLD SEEING DVD2VCD ASK FOR IT IN EVERY POST! LOL!


I just had a look at the good old poll. The Jaguar ED seems to be at 4th place with only 20% of the votes compared to the GB Everdrive.

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/vote-1.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on August 10, 2013, 09:50 PM
Not the amount of votes. I'm referring to how many times it's been mentioned in this thread. If you eliminate the NGED and the SSED (really?), the close second is the JagED being requested for the next ED.

Doesn't really matter, though. I'd get a JagED just because it exists.....Yes...


JagED please!... after the GBx one. :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Bernie on August 11, 2013, 08:02 AM
Would much rather see  Jaguar ED than one for any other system at this point. 
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on August 11, 2013, 12:41 PM
pinches himself lol wow jaguar gettin a bit of love!!!  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on August 12, 2013, 07:11 PM
pinches himself lol wow jaguar gettin a bit of love!!!  :o

JaguarDrive could be posible if someone make more homebrew games for it
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on August 21, 2013, 04:11 PM
Hello

What do you think about a card everdrive to connect on the pc engine bus or megadrive bus, to emulate cdrom ?

For the pc engine, the bios is on the hucard system card or arcade card, may be for megadrive it's a little more complexe.

And the same thing on the saturn , to load all cdrom iso on the sdcard.

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on August 22, 2013, 01:57 PM
Hello

What do you think about a card everdrive to connect on the pc engine bus or megadrive bus, to emulate cdrom ?

For the pc engine, the bios is on the hucard system card or arcade card, may be for megadrive it's a little more complexe.

And the same thing on the saturn , to load all cdrom iso on the sdcard.

That's a great idea.  For the genesis you can run the bios from the cartridge slot using an everdrive already so that's workable.  I dream of the day when this happens.  With an upgrade like this you'd have two options most likely:

1: Having to solder the device in, which makes it much harder to get than something you can just buy, plug in and play.

2: Having something that plugs into the expansion slot and replaces the cd unit completely.  This option would be way more work since you'd be emulating everything in the cd unit including extra processors.  The sega cd has a 68000 processor in it as well as other things.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on August 22, 2013, 02:07 PM
i do think it's a great idea too.
And at least as useful as GB everdrive !
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on August 22, 2013, 07:03 PM
I recently acquired an Atari 7800 and an XEGS and I found out there really are no good SD solution for them.

The Atari 7800 had the CuddleCart2 but it's been discontinued a few years ago and the new Harmony2 is nowhere in sight after more than 2Y since the announcement. An Everdrive for 7800 could be made to work in 2600 only mode for real 2600, so one ED could serve both [needless to say the 7800 can play both, so if the ED 7800 detect a 7800 should allow playing both].

For the XEGS the situation is more complex. There's SIO2SD but it emulates disks, as such the ROM have to be hacked to run in that mode. Some of said hacks require to also install a memory expansion, generally 256/320 or all the way to 1MB (like the Ultimate 1MB), so even for XEGS there really is no nice SD based cart to play ROM [if one is made it would require a dual mode in which it can be set to emulate the SIO so that both sets of SW can be enjoyed].


Truth be told neither of the 2 consoles has games that would make you wow, so it probably wouldn't make sell their cart too well, so I am not holding my breath.

If anyone knows better alternatives for these 2 consoles please speak.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on August 22, 2013, 08:42 PM
for XEGS Atarimax myide2 is great and only costs 60+ bucks
you don't need expansions and works with cf/ sds
though lately Tucker is not supporting the atari community anymore  >:(

for 7800
on AAs marketplace you can still find cc2s from time to time,
don't expect to pay less than 300us$ for one with pokey and card though,
it was 250 naked on launch !
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on August 22, 2013, 08:43 PM
so lets go back to:

we need Jaguar Everdrive !!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vonkhades on August 22, 2013, 08:51 PM
so lets go back to:

we need Jaguar Everdrive !!

or gameboy classic/color. :P

there are a lot of Jaguar Fans on this thread and I don't mean anything bad by that. I hope we all get all our everdrives we wish... hehe...

I would love to have a Atari STE "everdrive" HD emulator or something like that.. (satandisk sux and its not longer produced...) or GB-DMG!.

do you guys think it will ever exist any everdrives for retro-computers or just gaming consoles?

retro-computers = computers with cassette, no HD or some sort of weird floppy disk. (zx, amstrad, atari st, msx...) there are already solutions for some of them.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vonkhades on August 22, 2013, 09:07 PM
I guess

(http://i.imgur.com/xWLwLxF.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on August 23, 2013, 01:08 AM
so lets go back to:

we need Jaguar Everdrive !!

or gameboy classic/color. :P

there are a lot of Jaguar Fans on this thread and I don't mean anything bad by that. I hope we all get all our everdrives we wish... hehe...

I would love to have a Atari STE "everdrive" HD emulator or something like that.. (satandisk sux and its not longer produced...) or GB-DMG!.

do you guys think it will ever exist any everdrives for retro-computers or just gaming consoles?

retro-computers = computers with cassette, no HD or some sort of weird floppy disk. (zx, amstrad, atari st, msx...) there are already solutions for some of them.


for Atari st there's UltraSatan:

http://lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=94

all home computers already
 have everdrive-like solutions

so LET'S GO BACK TO JAGUAR !!



Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on August 23, 2013, 07:16 PM
for XEGS Atarimax myide2 is great and only costs 60+ bucks
you don't need expansions and works with cf/ sds
though lately Tucker is not supporting the atari community anymore  >:(

for 7800
on AAs marketplace you can still find cc2s from time to time,
don't expect to pay less than 300us$ for one with pokey and card though,
it was 250 naked on launch !

XEGS Atarimax myide2: how big of ROM/BIN/CAR can it play? I heard it is limited to 16/32K. Is that true? I am interested in 64/128K.

cc2 at 250 .... no way, I like my 7800, I don't love it.

Thanks for the info so far.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on August 24, 2013, 03:29 AM
for XEGS Atarimax myide2 is great and only costs 60+ bucks
you don't need expansions and works with cf/ sds
though lately Tucker is not supporting the atari community anymore  >:(

for 7800
on AAs marketplace you can still find cc2s from time to time,
don't expect to pay less than 300us$ for one with pokey and card though,
it was 250 naked on launch !

XEGS Atarimax myide2: how big of ROM/BIN/CAR can it play? I heard it is limited to 16/32K. Is that true? I am interested in 64/128K.

cc2 at 250 .... no way, I like my 7800, I don't love it.

Thanks for the info so far.

myide 2 can emulate 8/16k CARTS easily
AND can run .r16 files, so far up to 128k
-in 16k segments,basically bankswitching-

therefore allows playing large games without expansions needed  ;D
look for the files  on Atarimax forums

plus of course you get to play 4000++
 .xex files with the fat 32 loader

great product, very cheap ,
for 60 bucks its a steal

but it's creator is not around forums anymore,
so basically you're nearly on your own ...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on August 24, 2013, 06:27 AM
Thanks for the info.
Just ordered a MyIDE2 just to play those r16 files ... ehehehe!!!
For the rest xex/atr should suffice, I really do not want to invest in a mem exp.


Really appreciated the info.
I guess now I can get to play the XL/XE.

Let's see if maybe a 7800 cart would come up soon. Although many 2600 and 7800 are dirt cheap so probably I can get it out my system for less.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: AtariBorn on September 04, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jaguar Everdrive has my vote! The Jag community is huge now and the homebrew scene is getting bigger every day. I'm not a programmer and it seems a waste of my Skunkboard v2 to be in my unskilled hands, just for flashing the occasional homebrew. If a JagED was released, I could hand my Skunkboard over to a dev who could put it to use!

I wonder if Krikzz could use it for development purposes...  ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on September 06, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jaguar Everdrive has my vote! The Jag community is huge now and the homebrew scene is getting bigger every day. I'm not a programmer and it seems a waste of my Skunkboard v2 to be in my unskilled hands, just for flashing the occasional homebrew. If a JagED was released, I could hand my Skunkboard over to a dev who could put it to use!

I wonder if Krikzz could use it for development purposes...  ;)

Skunkboard sucks, we need JAGUAR EVERDRIVE  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 06, 2013, 06:15 PM
i wonder if igor is working on the next everdrive  :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on September 07, 2013, 07:24 PM
I prefer new version of actual Everdrive


for example a faster Master Everdrive or all everdrive with custom shells
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 07, 2013, 09:17 PM
everdrives for gameboy advance, gameboy original/colour, atari jaguar would be nice in the near future
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 09, 2013, 03:07 PM
just for fun ;)

(http://s11.postimg.org/bfsx253sz/Jaguar_ED.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on September 10, 2013, 10:59 AM
Why did you love jaguar's game ?  it's horrible console !

A Msx Card or Jamma or Mvs Card , it's the best seller on the earth
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 10, 2013, 11:13 AM
Why did you love jaguar's game ?  it's horrible console !

A Msx Card or Jamma or Mvs Card , it's the best seller on the earth
best sellers???? lol what planet are you from?  :o i think your a little confused..id say ED64 and SD2SNES are best sellers, people shudnt asume a console is horrible if they have never owned one before..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: snstay on September 11, 2013, 01:44 AM
I do love your persistence dvd2vcd lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: FriendofSonic on September 11, 2013, 04:42 AM
I can't wait to see what Krizz comes out with next. Love all of his creations
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ApolloBoy on September 11, 2013, 08:15 AM
A Msx Card
One already exists, although it's not as refined as Krikzz's carts are: http://www.msx.org/news/en/megaflashrom-scc-sd (http://www.msx.org/news/en/megaflashrom-scc-sd)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 11, 2013, 05:39 PM
A Msx Card
One already exists, although it's not as refined as Krikzz's carts are: http://www.msx.org/news/en/megaflashrom-scc-sd (http://www.msx.org/news/en/megaflashrom-scc-sd)
in other words its horrible, the price tag is horrible aswell around 100 euros! how would this be a best seller pckid? i dont even remember this machine doing well at all, when i was a kid atariXE/C64/ZXspectrum was best sellers the MSX was not
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ApolloBoy on September 11, 2013, 08:03 PM
in other words its horrible
Not really, it actually works quite well despite some of its flaws.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on September 11, 2013, 10:10 PM
A Msx Card
One already exists, although it's not as refined as Krikzz's carts are: http://www.msx.org/news/en/megaflashrom-scc-sd (http://www.msx.org/news/en/megaflashrom-scc-sd)
in other words its horrible, the price tag is horrible aswell around 100 euros! how would this be a best seller pckid? i dont even remember this machine doing well at all, when i was a kid atariXE/C64/ZXspectrum was best sellers the MSX was not

In europe and japan, Msx was a best seller, there are a great game from Konami, Hudson soft, irem, the price of this game is very expensive, more than atariXe , c64 or zxspectrum. And the card format is present on this computer.
i thinks it's easy for Igor and better for his business. But i could be wrong.

In europe amstrad cpc was best seller during this 80 year, but the game are very poor graphically, it's why the msx can be seem to be alternative for igor, cause it the same DNA of Nes Famicom or Pc Engine or Master System. Msx it's the prequel of this console for most of people.

Do you Know Nemesis, Aleste, Ys, Antartic Adventure, Penguin Adventure, Bomb Jack, Yie ar kung fu, Adventure Island, Castlevania (vampire killer), the goonies, Metal Gear, Salamander, Buble Bobble, R-Type, Parodius, Space Manbow, Sd Snatcher, Rastan Saga , Ikari Warrior, Arkanoid ...

ok it's 8 bit, but it's  great Game !
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 11, 2013, 11:06 PM
im still not convinced a msx cart would be a best seller..moving on  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on September 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
im still not convinced a msx cart would be a best seller..moving on  ::)

 :P

hey can you give me a list a good game on atari Jaguar ? cd or card ?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 12, 2013, 01:18 AM
im still not convinced a msx cart would be a best seller..moving on  ::)

 :P

hey can you give me a list a good game on atari Jaguar ? cd or card ?
rare and expensive games like alien v predator, atari karts, doom, wolfenstein 3D......just to name a few  ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on September 12, 2013, 04:44 AM
Ugh I really hope there are better games than those for the Jaguar. I don't know about Atari Karts though as I haven't played it.

There's no way an MSX ED could compete with N8 or SD2SNES but I agree with pckid that MSX computers was much better than those others mentioned. Has a good game library too.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 12, 2013, 06:07 AM
i still think the next everdrive will either be GB/GBC, GBA, JAGUAR  8)
nuu you serious? MSX was no where near as good as the commodore 64
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on September 12, 2013, 07:14 AM
I do hope there will eventually be a Jaguar Everdrive, no reason not to really since it's such a simple system (HI/LO byte ROMs and Serial EEPROM for saves, doesn't get any more complex than that) but I do get the feeling that a Neo Geo Everdrive is looming since it's been quite a long time since any development news has come from Krikzz and he did get that AES a while back.

It's not an easy task and would require a lot of expensive parts but if he could charge enough and people still bought it (let's face it, NG fans will pay a huge premium for this) then it'd be worth the effort. I'd buy one at near enough any price!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 12, 2013, 09:02 PM
aes fans hate the mvs multi-cart, i dont think they will welcome a everdrive, they are funny like that as a community
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on September 12, 2013, 11:14 PM
Quote
aes fans hate the mvs multi-cart

Where did you get that idea? Especially since lots of AES fans bought the AES special version of the 161 in 1
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 12, 2013, 11:40 PM
Quote
aes fans hate the mvs multi-cart

Where did you get that idea? Especially since lots of AES fans bought the AES special version of the 161 in 1
they seemed pissed that it was mvs and had to be modded for aes i dont think there was a aes special version it probably claimed to be but it was just mvs modded
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 12, 2013, 11:44 PM
krikzz needs to shout out on this thread and let us all know what the next everdrive will be 100%  ;D
(fingers crossed for jag) doner cart, cart label, box art are ready ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on September 12, 2013, 11:47 PM
Ugh I really hope there are better games than those for the Jaguar. I don't know about Atari Karts though as I haven't played it.

There's no way an MSX ED could compete with N8 or SD2SNES but I agree with pckid that MSX computers was much better than those others mentioned. Has a good game library too.

thanks for share my opinion.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pckid on September 12, 2013, 11:49 PM

rare and expensive games like alien v predator, atari karts, doom, wolfenstein 3D......just to name a few  ::)

Not rare, just funny,

i ll test your game , to see it, thanks
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 12, 2013, 11:57 PM

rare and expensive games like alien v predator, atari karts, doom, wolfenstein 3D......just to name a few  ::)

Not rare, just funny,

i ll test your game , to see it, thanks
they are rare and expensive, look on ebay lol i have all of them apart from atari karts  :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: NeoXbit on September 13, 2013, 03:58 AM
I got all the everdrives ever released and I'm surely hoping for a Jaguar everdrive for the moment. That would be great for the Jaguar homebrew scene that is currently getting bigger and bigger.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: FriendofSonic on September 13, 2013, 06:38 AM
I do hope there will eventually be a Jaguar Everdrive, no reason not to really since it's such a simple system (HI/LO byte ROMs and Serial EEPROM for saves, doesn't get any more complex than that) but I do get the feeling that a Neo Geo Everdrive is looming since it's been quite a long time since any development news has come from Krikzz and he did get that AES a while back.

It's not an easy task and would require a lot of expensive parts but if he could charge enough and people still bought it (let's face it, NG fans will pay a huge premium for this) then it'd be worth the effort. I'd buy one at near enough any price!
Oh yeah. I'd be prepared to pay 300-400 dollars for it. And I'd track down a system. It'd be too perfect to have the Neo Geo library at your disposal like that
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on September 13, 2013, 08:16 PM
nuu you serious? MSX was no where near as good as the commodore 64
I'm serious. Commodore 64 was more powerful than the first MSX, but MSX had better games.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 13, 2013, 08:37 PM
 :o well thats a matter of opinion, but il rephrase it by sayin the C64 was more popular than msx ever was, moving on...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on September 13, 2013, 08:41 PM
What? What's with the "Huh? There are people with other opinions than mine?" face?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 13, 2013, 08:42 PM
What? What's with the "Huh? There are people with other opinions than mine?" face?
think ur getting angry my good nuu, maybe you should stop replyin to my posts if they too much for u too handle my friend :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on September 13, 2013, 08:57 PM
No no I'm not angry. :)

:o well thats a matter of opinion, but il rephrase it by sayin the C64 was more popular than msx ever was, moving on...
Yes it's just my opinion. C64 was more popular in USA and UK maybe, I don't know. They where both very popular everywhere else.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on September 16, 2013, 04:12 PM
nuu you serious? MSX was no where near as good as the commodore 64
I'm serious. Commodore 64 was more powerful than the first MSX, but MSX had better games.

The best 8 bit for games was the ZX Spectrum! Granted that's just my opinion, but "best" is always opinion, whereas "more powerful" is usually measurable fact (and the Spectrum was in many ways inferior hardware wise to the C64/MSX/Amstrad CPC/Atari 8 bit/BBC Model B.

Anyway, it was the Speccy that gave us Manic Miner, Jetset Willy, 3D Ant Attack, Skooldaze, Back to Skool, Lords of Midnight, Doomdark's Revenge, Starstrike 2, Atic Atac, Knightlore, Jetpac, Fairlight, The Great Escape, 3D Deathchase, and hundreds of other classics, along with great ports of classics like Starglider, Elite, Way of the Exploding Fist, and R-Type.

Of course, the Spectrum also had tons of rubbish games, and terrible ports, and other machines had their own classics and their great ports, but personal preference is always subjective, and for me the Spectrum has the best games library out of any 8 bit (that I've played), and that's not nostalgia, as I still play Spectrum games (via FUSE PSP on my modded PSP) when I'm commuting to/from work.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on September 16, 2013, 04:20 PM
No no I'm not angry. :)

:o well thats a matter of opinion, but il rephrase it by sayin the C64 was more popular than msx ever was, moving on...
Yes it's just my opinion. C64 was more popular in USA and UK maybe, I don't know. They where both very popular everywhere else.

In the UK, the two 8 bits that dominated the 80s were the Spectrum and C64. Behind those were the CPC, the Atari 8 bit, and the  BBC, and behind those were the rest; MSX, Oric, etc. You could argue that popularity isn't the same as quality (and you'd be right), but regardless, for whatever reason the MSX just wasn't big in the UK. I've personally never even seen one in a shop, let alone played on one at a mate's house, though I have played on MSX emulators, using cartridge roms and cassette (or was it disc?) roms. From what I remember, the MSX did have some very good arcade conversions.

What MSX games would you recommend, please? I'm always keen to try new (to me) games, and I'd like to play some of the best MSX games, be they arcade conversions, MSX exclusives, ports from other machines, etc.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on September 16, 2013, 06:18 PM
The thing with MSX was that it was a attempt to standardize personal computers much like our IBM clones that we use today have become standard. So many different companies made their own MSXs and all of them could use the same software and hardware. It came late to USA though, so the aged hardware didn't attract Americans at the time. One problem with it for games is that it doesn't handle scrolling very well, making scrolling very choppy or not used at all in games. Games usually came on cartridges, disks or both. Saving could be done to a normal tape recorder.

Konami especially made many good games for it. Here is an incomplete list of some classics in no particular order:

Elevator Action
Snatcher
Metal Gear (has English translation patch)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (has English translation patch)
Bomberman Special
1942
Altered Beast
Penguin Adventure
Gradius
Salamander
Fantasy Zone
Guardic
Zanac
Parodius (prequel to Parodius Da! and the first in the series)
Knightmare (Majou Densetsu)
Eggerland Mystery (first Lolo game in the series)
Meikyuu Shinwa (Second Lolo game. Ported to Famicom Disk System and renamed Eggerland)
Xanadu (part of the Dragon Slayer series)
Legacy of the Wizard (Dragon Slayer IV)
Valis
Valis 2
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 16, 2013, 06:27 PM
if only......
(http://s11.postimg.org/bfsx253sz/Jaguar_ED.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on September 16, 2013, 07:20 PM
The thing with MSX was that it was a attempt to standardize personal computers much like our IBM clones that we use today have become standard. So many different companies made their own MSXs and all of them could use the same software and hardware. It came late to USA though, so the aged hardware didn't attract Americans at the time. One problem with it for games is that it doesn't handle scrolling very well, making scrolling very choppy or not used at all in games. Games usually came on cartridges, disks or both. Saving could be done to a normal tape recorder.

Konami especially made many good games for it. Here is an incomplete list of some classics in no particular order:

Elevator Action
Snatcher
Metal Gear (has English translation patch)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (has English translation patch)
Bomberman Special
1942
Altered Beast
Penguin Adventure
Gradius
Salamander
Fantasy Zone
Guardic
Zanac
Parodius (prequel to Parodius Da! and the first in the series)
Knightmare (Majou Densetsu)
Eggerland Mystery (first Lolo game in the series)
Meikyuu Shinwa (Second Lolo game. Ported to Famicom Disk System and renamed Eggerland)
Xanadu (part of the Dragon Slayer series)
Legacy of the Wizard (Dragon Slayer IV)
Valis
Valis 2


msx is already covered with the very good Mega Flash Rom Cart

http://www.msxcartridgeshop.com/

so

again

JAGUAR, JAGUAR , JAGUAR
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Missingno255 on September 17, 2013, 12:00 AM
if only......
(http://s11.postimg.org/bfsx253sz/Jaguar_ED.png)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGEGon-Qc_Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LVcvkLCUtU
So, suddenly the Atari Jaguar has suddenly become extremely popular and now warrants a flash cart for it? Let me remind you that this console only sold 250,000 units and all the games royally suck. HARD. We're better off without a cart for this crap console.
Not gonna happen people. I'd rather buy an Everdrive for the GB/GBC/GBA than a cart for this excuse of a console. :P
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 09:40 AM
WOW another jag hater...nice post numbnuts...Missingno255...every games console deserves a everdrive, so who cares what you think! at the moment jaguar homebrew is hot, skunkboards sell for stupidly high prices, yes so the jag wasnt a raging success, but neither was the TG16, the jag is a sought after console these days and the games are getting really expensive and rarer to obtain, a everdrive would be a great investment for it, who gives a flying fuck how well it did back then? well you apparently... if krikzz ever releases a everdrive just watch how much jag consoles prices rise on ebay and btw krikzz said he might make a everdrive for jag so go and take your narrow minded jag hating elsewhere...oh and just for the record everyone knows that angry video game nerd is a nintendo fanboy he makes me puke, no suprise he was slating the jag...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Missingno255 on September 17, 2013, 12:18 PM
WOW another jag hater...nice post numbnuts...Missingno255...every games console deserves a everdrive, so who cares what you think! at the moment jaguar homebrew is hot, skunkboards sell for stupidly high prices, yes so the jag wasnt a raging success, but neither was the TG16, the jag is a sought after console these days and the games are getting really expensive and rarer to obtain, a everdrive would be a great investment for it, who gives a flying fuck how well it did back then? well you apparently... if krikzz ever releases a everdrive just watch how much jag consoles prices rise on ebay and btw krikzz said he might make a everdrive for jag so go and take your narrow minded jag hating elsewhere...oh and just for the record everyone knows that angry video game nerd is a nintendo fanboy he makes me puke, no suprise he was slating the jag...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Jaguar

You going to shell out $100 for a flash cart for a system thats too overly complicated and Krikzz, in his right mind, will probably never program for and also has no good games? That's fine with me. Of course I care how well it sold back then. 250,000 units? That's worse than what the Wii U did in one week after launch! Everyone at the time either bought a Sega Saturn, PSX, or an N64.
Why would Krikzz make a product for a system that was unpopular? I sure as hell wouldn't and I'm pretty sure no one else would in any given economic situation. You need to do research a game system before making a flash cart for one. There's a large number of things that need to be taken into consideration before making what Krikzz builds. TG16/PC Engine and the Sega Master system may have been unpopular, but they had games that were actually enjoyable which the Jaguar severely lacks. I don't "hate" the Jaguar. I dislike it and games systems that are unpopular. Also flying off the handle like that at me was pretty uncalled for, as getting angry over someones opinion like that doesn't help further your argument and opinion. I'm only giving mine. :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 12:24 PM
sorry if i made u cry  :'( i can say what i want just like you did (its called freedom of speech numbnuts) now jog on...and i for one would buy a jag ED and many many others too, oh yeah..you said "Everyone at the time either bought a Sega Saturn, PSX, or an N64" that my friend is complete and utter bullshit! as they wasnt around when jaguar was, as i said jog on...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Missingno255 on September 17, 2013, 12:38 PM
Sorry if I made you cry :'( i can say what i want just like you did now jog on...and i for one would buy a jag ED and many many others too
you said "Everyone at the time either bought a Sega Saturn, PSX, or an N64" that for one is complete and utter bullshit! they wasnt around when jag was, as i said jog on...
No one bought this thing. Did you read the article I linked to? Look at the "Reception" and "Technical Specifications" parts of the article. You'll see what I'm talking about. :P
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 12:44 PM
yes you linked something from wiki woopydoo! does it mention the ever growing homebrew support, new tools, and that the jaguar can potentially be a great system, some of the jags games are hard to get hold of and are pretty damn expensive anyway, i still say a everdrive would be great, and apparently its easy to produce one, chilly willy mentioned he has already been having a play around with the jag with the tools he has, just lacking a propper flash cart and its about time a everdrive arrived its well overdue
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on September 17, 2013, 04:45 PM
the FACT is Jaguar has a lot of software in the works
and RARE games are too expensive

so a JAG-ED really makes sense  ;D

Like it or not Jaguar is the hottest non everdrive yet console...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 06:11 PM
the FACT is Jaguar has a lot of software in the works
and RARE games are too expensive

so a JAG-ED really makes sense  ;D

Like it or not Jaguar is the hottest non everdrive yet console...
:) +rep
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on September 17, 2013, 07:59 PM
the FACT is Jaguar has a lot of software in the works
and RARE games are too expensive

so a JAG-ED really makes sense  ;D

Like it or not Jaguar is the hottest non everdrive yet console...

?
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/vote17sep.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 08:38 PM
Captain N i saw the poll, but theres already "great" flash solutions for GB/GBC/GBA at the moment which are easily obtainable, saturn is not a cart based console its CD so i aint gotta clue why thats even in the poll or why the hell ppl have actually voted for a CD everdrive lol, neo geo yes point taken i can understand ppl wanting one, games are expensive and would need to remortgage your house to own the games lol but a jaguar everdrive has to be easier to make than neo geo cart right? surely? plus theres no good solution for jaguar apart from skunkboard which is pretty crap/rare/expensive

theres a few everdrives i would want in this order

1st - jaguar
2nd - gameboy advance
3rd - gameboy/gameboy colour

i couldnt care much about a AES everdrive cos il never own a console which has about 100 2D unimpressive fighting games lol just doesnt do it for me, sorry :|
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Missingno255 on September 17, 2013, 08:55 PM
the FACT is Jaguar has a lot of software in the works
and RARE games are too expensive

so a JAG-ED really makes sense  ;D

Like it or not Jaguar is the hottest non everdrive yet console...

?
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/vote17sep.png)
This.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 09:14 PM
the FACT is Jaguar has a lot of software in the works
and RARE games are too expensive

so a JAG-ED really makes sense  ;D

Like it or not Jaguar is the hottest non everdrive yet console...

?
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/captainnintendo2000/vote17sep.png)
This.
sorry but that poll does not make any sense at all -_-
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 17, 2013, 09:53 PM
atari jaguar FPGA in action!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6KWd-LPwKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6KWd-LPwKg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk850f7ICVM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk850f7ICVM)

so yes a jaguar everdrive is do-able, also jaguar CD implementation, there you have it a atari jaguar on a FPGA, so far so good!  ;D

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This project is a port of the Atari Jaguar chipset to a Stratix-II FPGA.
It features the Tom & Jerry chips, and a 68000 core.
Tom & Jerry designs have been converted from the original "netlists" files
to Verilog HDL, using a compiler/translator tool that I wrote.
It runs on a Nios-II Development Kit - Stratix edition (RoHS) board, with the
addition of a daughterboard that features a 24-bit VGA DAC.
The 68000 core (J68), the daughterboard and so much more are courtesy from
Frederic Requin a.k.a frenchshark. I owe much to him, as this project would
not have seen the light of the day without his advice.
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History
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A year or so ago, I found myself getting interested in the Jaguar console (don't
ask why). I started a rewrite of the chipset in VHDL, as well as writing the
translation tool, that was solely intended to simulation and verification.
I got myself a bit familiar with the Jaguar's architecture, but I eventually
went into a dead end, as I didn't own at this time a FPGA board powerful enough.
Also, it seemed to me that the time and effort required to get a reasonable
accuracy was way too high...

Then, at a retrocomputing event (VieuMikro), Frederic and I were talking about
our projects, and from this moment, many things happened:
- Frederic was (is) working on an Amiga core, and for this purpose designed
the J68, a lightweight but full-featured 68000 core written in Verilog.
- He switched from VHDL to Verilog, and convinced me to do so, because of the
largest set of tools available, especially Verilator, which is amazing.
- Apart from the J68 core, he developed some cool software to use with
Verilator, such as a 68000 disassembler.
- Finally he found an eBay shop selling these Stratix-II boards for a low
price, and I purchased one of them.

It was then the right time to give this project a new try. And when I got myself
into what was possible with Verilator (due to its easy software integration and
speed), I then thought that using the original netlist could be possible not
only as a reference, but for synthesis as well..

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Gregory Estrade, 05/10/2013

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Captain N on September 18, 2013, 12:40 AM
The reason that I decided to include the Saturn in the poll is because it technically does have a cartridge slot, and I have heard a lot of different stories on whenever it is actually possible to play/boot a game and run it entirely off the cartridge slot.

Since I didn't have enough info to go on, I just decided to leave it in.
So yeah, if we removed that, then the Jaguar would take 3rd place.

I can't really agree on the fact that there are many "great" flashcarts for the GB/GBC. There's only a few on the marked and they are hardly what I would call great.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on September 18, 2013, 08:58 AM
The reason that I decided to include the Saturn in the poll is because it technically does have a cartridge slot, and I have heard a lot of different stories on whenever it is actually possible to play/boot a game and run it entirely off the cartridge slot.

Since I didn't have enough info to go on, I just decided to leave it in.
So yeah, if we removed that, then the Jaguar would take 3rd place.

I can't really agree on the fact that there are many "great" flashcarts for the GB/GBC. There's only a few on the marked and they are hardly what I would call great.

And i agree with your idea.
Even if Krikzz is not interested in CD-based units, we can't deny that there are many people waiting for such backup devices.
For exemple, most people here have heard about PSIO for the PlayStation.
And the game libraries for both Saturn or PlayStation are very more important, as for numbers as for quality.
once Krikzz will have done the GB/GBC and Jaguar flashcards, getting bored, he would start working on such project :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on September 18, 2013, 01:15 PM
The reason that I decided to include the Saturn in the poll is because it technically does have a cartridge slot, and I have heard a lot of different stories on whenever it is actually possible to play/boot a game and run it entirely off the cartridge slot.

Since I didn't have enough info to go on, I just decided to leave it in.
So yeah, if we removed that, then the Jaguar would take 3rd place.

I can't really agree on the fact that there are many "great" flashcarts for the GB/GBC. There's only a few on the marked and they are hardly what I would call great.

And i agree with your idea.
Even if Krikzz is not interested in CD-based units, we can't deny that there are many people waiting for such backup devices.
For exemple, most people here have heard about PSIO for the PlayStation.
And the game libraries for both Saturn or PlayStation are very more important, as for numbers as for quality.
once Krikzz will have done the GB/GBC and Jaguar flashcards, getting bored, he would start working on such project :D
I agree with both of you. GB/GBC and GBA EDs are probably the most wanted Everdrives right now. It is about the only mainstream consoles that doesn't have an Everdrive yet. Didn't I say the exact same thing before?

This thread is just repeating itself over and over. Someone is trying to bury it with Jaguar related posts.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on September 18, 2013, 02:04 PM
The reason that I decided to include the Saturn in the poll is because it technically does have a cartridge slot, and I have heard a lot of different stories on whenever it is actually possible to play/boot a game and run it entirely off the cartridge slot.

Since I didn't have enough info to go on, I just decided to leave it in.
So yeah, if we removed that, then the Jaguar would take 3rd place.

I can't really agree on the fact that there are many "great" flashcarts for the GB/GBC. There's only a few on the marked and they are hardly what I would call great.

And i agree with your idea.
Even if Krikzz is not interested in CD-based units, we can't deny that there are many people waiting for such backup devices.
For exemple, most people here have heard about PSIO for the PlayStation.
And the game libraries for both Saturn or PlayStation are very more important, as for numbers as for quality.
once Krikzz will have done the GB/GBC and Jaguar flashcards, getting bored, he would start working on such project :D
I agree with both of you. GB/GBC and GBA EDs are probably the most wanted Everdrives right now. It is about the only mainstream consoles that doesn't have an Everdrive yet. Didn't I say the exact same thing before?

This thread is just repeating itself over and over. Someone is trying to bury it with Jaguar related posts.

Exactly. Nothing to add...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 18, 2013, 07:31 PM
im just proving that the jag is moving forward in development while other systems are not! GBA ezflash 4 is a great flash device along with super card, GB/GBC drag n derp is relatively new and is a great flash device, all can be easily obtained worldwide so realisticly we can safely say nintendo handhelds are covered, as for saturn the cart port is merely a mem card slot nothing more some ppl feel negative about the jag nothin to add??? in that case poll should be removed and thread deleted, aint gonna stop me from singing jags song, this system is evolving, hate it or love it but thats a fact! >:(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on September 18, 2013, 07:47 PM
BTW there's been some activity on the MVS to AES converter side:
http://www.ic2005.com/shop/product.php?productid=138&cat=0&featured=Y

Now the MagicKey 2013 edition is only 159US$, which is way more affordable ... ouch I should have waited, I paid 250US$ and basically wasted 90US$.
Considering I paid 89US$ shipped for the 161-in-1 (really, it only has around 97 unique games), now with the same 250US$ one can get his NeoGeo fix.

If KrikZZ comes up with a RAM based NG ED solution it will have to be in that ballpark to be competitive, yes homebrewers may flock to whatever is available but for the general gamers there's a dollar limit after which it is better to wait [10+Y in the NG case ;-)].

Keep in mind the whole NG library is around 150 games, not counting a handful of production grade games developed in the last 3 or 4 years [cannot call them exactly homebrew as they have much higher production values and are backed by larger teams, yet they do not belong on the original collections as they use more recent software technology not available back in the days].

Finally after so long NG gaming does not fetch an arm and a leg anymore.

I'm not talking vintage games collectors here, just people that want to play 20Y old [but very good] games at affordable prices, more or less as any other flash card targeted to old systems.

Thanks to KrikZZ and others we have quite a few systems with full [or almost full] libraries playable anywhere between 69US$ [AtariMax MyIde 2 (I use with an XEGS)] to 190US$ [SD2SNES], which is good considering how expensive some of the originals have become and how little many gamers care about collecting vs just playing the damn thing and have some fun at last.
I remember that growing up I couldn't afford much of this stuff and now I can get it out of my system whether it is for a system I've never heard before [Vectrex], or for games I never knew they existed [too many to even list].

Enjoy, it's a good time for retrogaming, not sure it will get much cheaper.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 18, 2013, 07:51 PM
thats a nice price drop  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on September 18, 2013, 08:22 PM
I opened up mine [the non 2013 edition although already updated to 2.0 by razoola himself] and it turns out they have 3 FPGA in there.
One FPGA for each PCB [there are 2] and one FPGA soldered on a small daughter board itself soldered on top of the PCB, I suspect this daughterboard is based on the work by DavidG to fix the scaling issues of many older converters.

It is possible that they reduced the number of components [integrating said fix] hence able to reduce costs.
The fun part is that the converter is really 2 independent PCBs each with his own FPGA [called core A and core B] with no common traces or signal exchange among the 2 .... guess timing sync is easy to achieve or not critical at all [in all honesty I know little of the NG architecture so I am not sure what the 2 separate cart connector split? Possibly FONT, SOUND, GFX and PRG ROMS are all split apart and only accessed on one of the 2 sides and maybe one of the sides is easier to deal with (namely no complex mappers), no idea]

The only annoying thing is that the 161-in-1 does not work with the converter without pushing the button on the converter itself, and the button is a tact one so you have to keep it pushed. I will eventually Dremmel a hole on the casing and put a proper switch so I can set it and stay set. What's really annoying with it is that the 161-in-1 has a menu which does not load without the button, then some of the games also need it to be pressed to work. I noticed that the games that work with it NOT pressed also work with it pressed so I figured that might as well always have it set would end the ordeal. They really should have put an on/off switch button of sort rather than a tact one, but then again for single game cartridges it is not an issue as you only touch it at startup and never again until you switch games, probably they wanted to annoy those damn pirates that play copied games ;-).

Now I expect that finally the AES version of the 161-in-1 cart can come down [last I heard was 650US$] as it can be achieved by combining the 2 for 250US$ to the final customer so likely much less for manufacturers, just cram them in the same case or use a taller one ;-)

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 18, 2013, 08:54 PM
what i fail to understand about the mvs multicart is that it has 161 games on it with alot of dupes lol when they could have put the entire NG collection on it, strange..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on September 18, 2013, 09:18 PM
im just proving that the jag is moving forward in development while other systems are not! GBA ezflash 4 is a great flash device along with super card, GB/GBC drag n derp is relatively new and is a great flash device, all can be easily obtained worldwide so realisticly we can safely say nintendo handhelds are covered, as for saturn the cart port is merely a mem card slot nothing more some ppl feel negative about the jag nothin to add??? in that case poll should be removed and thread deleted, aint gonna stop me from singing jags song, this system is evolving, hate it or love it but thats a fact! >:(
The "nothing to add" was about the fact that this thread is always repeating itself.
I wonder if some people here really hate Jaguar or rather begin to hate those who constantly cry out their love for this system.
I do not hate neither "love" the Jaguar, i own it, in like new condition, and some items new in box. 'have some games, specially the Atari Karts you talked about some post above.
So, yes, i could buy a flashcard for it, why not (depends on the price), but no, i won't kill mother and father for it...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 18, 2013, 09:22 PM
im just proving that the jag is moving forward in development while other systems are not! GBA ezflash 4 is a great flash device along with super card, GB/GBC drag n derp is relatively new and is a great flash device, all can be easily obtained worldwide so realisticly we can safely say nintendo handhelds are covered, as for saturn the cart port is merely a mem card slot nothing more some ppl feel negative about the jag nothin to add??? in that case poll should be removed and thread deleted, aint gonna stop me from singing jags song, this system is evolving, hate it or love it but thats a fact! >:(
The "nothing to add" was about the fact that this thread is always repeating itself.
I wonder if some people here really hate Jaguar or rather begin to hate those who constantly cry out their love for this system.
I do not hate neither "love" the Jaguar, i own it, in like new condition, and some items new in box. 'have some games, specially the Atari Karts you talked about some post above.
So, yes, i could buy a flashcard for it, why not (depends on the price), but no, i won't kill mother and father for it...
good for you..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on September 18, 2013, 10:04 PM
what i fail to understand about the mvs multicart is that it has 161 games on it with alot of dupes lol when they could have put the entire NG collection on it, strange..

Not that strange. I believe that the hacks/dupes are simply delta patches on the original ROMs as such they probably take relatively little space so they can boast big number with no high cost to them in terms of storage. I do not think even for a moment that they need a complete romset for every hack.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 18, 2013, 10:17 PM
what i fail to understand about the mvs multicart is that it has 161 games on it with alot of dupes lol when they could have put the entire NG collection on it, strange..

Not that strange. I believe that the hacks/dupes are simply delta patches on the original ROMs as such they probably take relatively little space so they can boast big number with no high cost to them in terms of storage. I do not think even for a moment that they need a complete romset for every hack.
a complete romset (well...1 dump from a game) would have been better than hacks/dupes
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on September 18, 2013, 11:34 PM

a complete romset (well...1 dump from a game) would have been better than hacks/dupes

True but then it would have been the 98-in-1 and people would probably have bought the 120-in-1 thinking there's more in there.
At least the 161-in-1 has the highest count of games of any multicart that can run on AES, so you can sort the multicarts by total count although the overlap is not perfect,

Still 97 games for 89US$ is a good deal, it's less than 1US$ each the vast majority are actually quite fun to play.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 19, 2013, 12:25 AM
Still 97 games for 89US$ is a good deal, it's less than 1US$ each the vast majority are actually quite fun to play.
it is a bargain none the less lol
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 19, 2013, 12:58 AM
Also i must say that neogeo cart is pretty complex thing. May be i will make a toy for jag, but i pretty sure that i will never do something for neogeo
that was almost a year ago, KRIKZZ!!!!!! any change on what you said? :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on September 19, 2013, 06:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Gu7w0jMWRe4
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on September 19, 2013, 09:02 PM
Dvd2vcd Imagine that Everdrive Jaguar is real..... Welll What is next??? ::)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on September 19, 2013, 09:25 PM
Dvd2vcd Imagine that Everdrive Jaguar is real..... Welll What is next??? ::)
i would dissapear for about a year lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on September 27, 2013, 01:01 AM
(http://atariage.com/forums/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-19213-0-47550000-1366976200_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on October 16, 2013, 09:39 PM
Maybe Its not to be a Flashcart. It could be a "new family".... EverMemory

PlayStation1, PlayStation2, NeoGeo, Dreamcast, Gamecube,  N64, Saturn....

All memory card for console with SD support and easy attach battery
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on October 17, 2013, 08:22 AM
It's not a so dumb idea...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 21, 2013, 05:58 AM
Maybe Its not to be a Flashcart. It could be a "new family".... EverMemory

PlayStation1, PlayStation2, NeoGeo, Dreamcast, Gamecube,  N64, Saturn....

All memory card for console with SD support and easy attach battery

I've given this some thought and....I like it

The "nothing to add" was about the fact that this thread is always repeating itself.
I wonder if some people here really hate Jaguar or rather begin to hate those who constantly cry out their love for this system.
I do not hate neither "love" the Jaguar, i own it, in like new condition, and some items new in box. 'have some games, specially the Atari Karts you talked about some post above.
So, yes, i could buy a flashcard for it, why not (depends on the price), but no, i won't kill mother and father for it...

I don't see the problem.  Yes they repeat a lot, so what?

Captain N i saw the poll, but theres already "great" flash solutions for GB/GBC/GBA at the moment which are easily obtainable, saturn is not a cart based console its CD so i aint gotta clue why thats even in the poll or why the hell ppl have actually voted for a CD everdrive lol, neo geo yes point taken i can understand ppl wanting one, games are expensive and would need to remortgage your house to own the games lol but a jaguar everdrive has to be easier to make than neo geo cart right? surely? plus theres no good solution for jaguar apart from skunkboard which is pretty crap/rare/expensive

theres a few everdrives i would want in this order

1st - jaguar
2nd - gameboy advance
3rd - gameboy/gameboy colour

i couldnt care much about a AES everdrive cos il never own a console which has about 100 2D unimpressive fighting games lol just doesnt do it for me, sorry :|

I love fighting games, but I can see people who don't like those games not appreciating a neo geo.

WOW another jag hater...nice post numbnuts...Missingno255...every games console deserves a everdrive, so who cares what you think! at the moment jaguar homebrew is hot, skunkboards sell for stupidly high prices, yes so the jag wasnt a raging success, but neither was the TG16, the jag is a sought after console these days and the games are getting really expensive and rarer to obtain, a everdrive would be a great investment for it, who gives a flying fuck how well it did back then? well you apparently... if krikzz ever releases a everdrive just watch how much jag consoles prices rise on ebay and btw krikzz said he might make a everdrive for jag so go and take your narrow minded jag hating elsewhere...oh and just for the record everyone knows that angry video game nerd is a nintendo fanboy he makes me puke, no suprise he was slating the jag...

My name is Drakon, I don't enjoy the jaguar at all, but I agree that "every games console deserves a everdrive".

As for the avgn I don't take his comments about consoles and games seriously, I just watch him because he's entertaining.

Also glad to read that I'm not the only person who loves the idea of using flashcarts to help push the homebrew community forward and no longer need to hack up real carts.  If I never built a gameboy devcart because I didn't feel like paying for trip world to play it on real hardware I probably would never had made gbc marioland and metroid 2.  Usually just having the hardware handy and more accessible makes things happen more easily.  I love homebrew and I want to see it hit the full potential for every system no matter how obscure.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 24, 2013, 07:36 PM
The Jaguar isnt as bad as people make out, problem was Atari, they wanted 3D games and like the Saturn it wasn't really made for it

The price of some of the games is bloody mental.

One thing thats annoying about Jag fans (I ain't really one, I have one and a few games, but I know some that are the annoying type) is that they are all anti piracy.

GO JAG!!

Probably bugger all interest in an Intellivision one

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 24, 2013, 09:05 PM
One thing thats annoying about Jag fans (I ain't really one, I have one and a few games, but I know some that are the annoying type) is that they are all anti piracy

This is also true for Neo Geo - The community hates piracy of any kind. Those MVS multi carts seemed to be the worst thing that happened to die hard (Neo Geo fans are some of the most die hard fans ever) collectors.

Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 24, 2013, 09:32 PM
One thing thats annoying about Jag fans (I ain't really one, I have one and a few games, but I know some that are the annoying type) is that they are all anti piracy

This is also true for Neo Geo - The community hates piracy of any kind. Those MVS multi carts seemed to be the worst thing that happened to die hard (Neo Geo fans are some of the most die hard fans ever) collectors.
They are ment to be bad quality and prone to breaking down
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 25, 2013, 01:10 AM
One thing thats annoying about Jag fans (I ain't really one, I have one and a few games, but I know some that are the annoying type) is that they are all anti piracy

This is also true for Neo Geo - The community hates piracy of any kind. Those MVS multi carts seemed to be the worst thing that happened to die hard (Neo Geo fans are some of the most die hard fans ever) collectors.

Eh?  Original carts won't last forever.  Neo geo people need to relax a little.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on October 25, 2013, 01:21 AM
The multicarts aren't fantastic quality but they work just fine for the most part. They are also cheap and don't waste any real MVS carts for chips and plastics so who cares?

They should have made an AES version though, would have sold well I'm sure.

On topic though, I think an arcade everdrive line would be ace, CPS1 everdrive, CPS2 everdrive, F3, PGM, Neo Geo, Konami GX etc

Probably would be way too expensive to produce to be worth it though.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on October 25, 2013, 01:53 AM
Probably bugger all interest in an Intellivision one

GroovyBee on atariage was working on a cart (http://atariage.com/forums/topic/213241-bacon-power/), but no news in several months.

Another for the "hardly mentioned" count, Virtual Boy. The person who was designing a new microSD loading flashcart for VB (http://brennanthl.wordpress.com/project-vboot/) has lost all interest in finishing the project sadly, but has sent Krikzz an email asking if he'd be willing to help out. Don't know how that'll play out though, Krikzz's interest in such a project or even free time to take on another workload aside, the creator commented that it'd be exceptionally difficult to just pick up without some extensive documentation which was never made.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 25, 2013, 03:52 AM
The multicarts aren't fantastic quality but they work just fine for the most part. They are also cheap and don't waste any real MVS carts for chips and plastics so who cares?

They should have made an AES version though, would have sold well I'm sure.

On topic though, I think an arcade everdrive line would be ace, CPS1 everdrive, CPS2 everdrive, F3, PGM, Neo Geo, Konami GX etc

Probably would be way too expensive to produce to be worth it though.

I'd love a cps everdrive, but yeah mvs makes way more sense due to the larger library.  Luckily with cps2 phoenixed roms it's really easy to do almost any cps2 conversion, still you need a donor game board to do that.  CPS1 has many different rom board and security board variations and the library isn't very big.

The problem with arcade board flash devices is you still need a supergun, the AES is the only exception.

Small market demand.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ClassicNerd on October 25, 2013, 11:58 PM
The Jaguar isnt as bad as people make out, problem was Atari, they wanted 3D games and like the Saturn it wasn't really made for it

The price of some of the games is bloody mental.

One thing thats annoying about Jag fans (I ain't really one, I have one and a few games, but I know some that are the annoying type) is that they are all anti piracy.

GO JAG!!

Probably bugger all interest in an Intellivision one


go JAGUAR EVERDRIVE!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 26, 2013, 12:21 AM
I would donate my virtual boy flash cart to krikzz if it helped in him making an SD loading ever drive.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 26, 2013, 01:19 PM
Whats the point of a Virtual boy one?

Theres only about 20 games on it.
ABout 4 of them are worth playing, besides isnt there already one?
Probably bugger all interest in an Intellivision one

GroovyBee on atariage was working on a cart (http://atariage.com/forums/topic/213241-bacon-power/), but no news in several months.

Yeah I read about that one,
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 26, 2013, 01:38 PM
The Jaguar isnt as bad as people make out, problem was Atari, they wanted 3D games and like the Saturn it wasn't really made for it

The price of some of the games is bloody mental.

One thing thats annoying about Jag fans (I ain't really one, I have one and a few games, but I know some that are the annoying type) is that they are all anti piracy.

GO JAG!!

Probably bugger all interest in an Intellivision one


go JAGUAR EVERDRIVE!
go TEAM JAGUAR!!!!

LOL over the top i know but funny :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: valthonis on October 26, 2013, 04:40 PM
Having picked up an Atari Jaguar recently I would love to see a Jaguar Everdrive as well.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 26, 2013, 06:37 PM
I am thinking of parting with my jaguar/jaguar CD system and 6-button controller with s-video cable if no Jaguar Ever drive is released...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 26, 2013, 09:55 PM
I am thinking of parting with my jaguar/jaguar CD system and 6-button controller with s-video cable if no Jaguar Ever drive is released...
nice setup, im after a pro controller but they kinda pricey at the moment :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on October 27, 2013, 03:36 AM
dvd2vcd´s wet dream

Atari Jaguar Duo, Compatible with 7800/5200/2600
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 27, 2013, 04:14 AM
dvd2vcd´s wet dream

Atari Jaguar Duo, Compatible with 7800/5200/2600

I wouldn't mind that either...Wasn't there supposedly a Jaguar cartridge with every 2600 game on it?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Troyus on October 27, 2013, 08:31 AM
Maybe dvdvcd should talk to igor and start a kickstarter up? Maybe if enough people pay for it up front and igor gets a few grand then he can build one? Maybe he is just too busy as he has lots on, but if its a commercial problem where he thinks there will be low demand, then that will fix it? Just an idea.

Watermelon games who made pier solar for the megadrive on carts managed to raise 150k to port it to dreamcast, xbox360 and some others...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 27, 2013, 02:06 PM
I am thinking of parting with my jaguar/jaguar CD system and 6-button controller with s-video cable if no Jaguar Ever drive is released...
nice setup, im after a pro controller but they kinda pricey at the moment :(

And a VR headset...................

Oh wait forget that one unless you have ££££££££££££££££££££££
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Tricky on October 27, 2013, 02:11 PM
Whats the point of a Virtual boy one?

Theres only about 20 games on it.
ABout 4 of them are worth playing, besides isnt there already one?

You could make a very similar argument for Jag, but then the fanboys would come out of the woodwork to tear you a new one if you do :D Some people are fond of the VB, and it offers something that most other consoles or gaming devices in general do, and with there being a few good homebrews and unreleased games, a flashcart is the only way to play them legitimately. And yeah there's already a cart, but it's like the skunkboard in that you need to reflash it every time you want to play a different game.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 27, 2013, 07:31 PM
dvd2vcd´s wet dream

Atari Jaguar Duo, Compatible with 7800/5200/2600
:o how did you guess?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 27, 2013, 07:32 PM
a virtual boy ED would be good but aint that the console that gave everyone migranes etc? caused a few kids to have seizures back in the day :( i remember reading in the newspapers "nintendo killed my son"
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 27, 2013, 07:34 PM
i messaged krikzz about jaguar everdrive in which i got no response  >:(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 28, 2013, 02:44 PM
Whats the point of a Virtual boy one?

Theres only about 20 games on it.
ABout 4 of them are worth playing, besides isnt there already one?

You could make a very similar argument for Jag, but then the fanboys would come out of the woodwork to tear you a new one if you do :D Some people are fond of the VB, and it offers something that most other consoles or gaming devices in general do, and with there being a few good homebrews and unreleased games, a flashcart is the only way to play them legitimately. And yeah there's already a cart, but it's like the skunkboard in that you need to reflash it every time you want to play a different game.

Oh I know,
I am also on Retro Gamer forum, theres a fanboy on there that is a bit to easy to wind up with the simple words

THE JAGUAR IS A BIT NAF!!
(For none UK types "Naf" means bad)
a virtual boy ED would be good but aint that the console that gave everyone migranes etc? caused a few kids to have seizures back in the day :( i remember reading in the newspapers "nintendo killed my son"
Played Wario from start to end almost continuously,

No such thing happened, it was overblown by the media
3DS on the other hand gave me a headache for a few days
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 28, 2013, 05:28 PM
No such thing happened, it was overblown by the media
yes it did killed a boy in 1993 it was in the sun newspaper i remember it and it wasnt blown by media blah blah....
you are naf :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 28, 2013, 07:44 PM
No such thing happened, it was overblown by the media
yes it did killed a boy in 1993 it was in the sun newspaper i remember it and it wasnt blown by media blah blah....
you are naf :D

Sun news paper, has it ever had any credibility?
I know its a step up from the Daily sport and thats a step up from the daily mail
I AM NAFCO!!
(Urgh remember them clothes?)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 28, 2013, 07:46 PM
No such thing happened, it was overblown by the media
yes it did killed a boy in 1993 it was in the sun newspaper i remember it and it wasnt blown by media blah blah....
you are naf :D

Sun news paper, has it ever had any credibility?
I know its a step up from the Daily sport and thats a step up from the daily mail
I AM NAFCO!!
(Urgh remember them clothes?)
54
yes i do lol and the sun page 3 is always incredible lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 28, 2013, 07:52 PM
krikzz make atari jaguar everdrive!!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 28, 2013, 09:41 PM
krikzz make atari jaguar everdrive!!
                                                 ^PLEASE

Always helps
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on October 28, 2013, 09:53 PM
Stop spamming the same thing over and over again ffs.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 28, 2013, 10:21 PM
Stop spamming the same thing over and over again ffs.
mind your own buisness!!! :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 28, 2013, 10:22 PM
krikzz make atari jaguar everdrive!!
                                                 ^PLEASE

Always helps
;D :D ;) :) 8) :P
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 28, 2013, 10:53 PM
Stop spamming the same thing over and over again ffs.

Why do people consider it spamming and when something is being repeated? I always considered spamming consisting of ads...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on October 29, 2013, 12:42 AM
If what these guys are doing is not spamming then I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on October 29, 2013, 03:54 AM
If what these guys are doing is not spamming then I don't know what is.

As far as I'm concerned in this thread spamming what you want is allowed.  I don't get why people think that spamming is always bad, sometimes I really think spamming is appropriate like what dvd2vcd is doing.  This type of spamming doesn't bother me at all it just shows how much he loves the idea of a jaguar everdrive.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on October 29, 2013, 04:27 AM
I wouldn't mind a Vectrex ever drive. Every official flash cart that gets released sells out damn near instantly
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 29, 2013, 07:24 AM
The Vectrex does need one, it has a 32 in one (?) cart thats a bit arsey and dont have all the homebrew ROMs some of which are so bloody good it made me pester one of the creators to remake it

If what these guys are doing is not spamming then I don't know what is.

Having  a right old laugh?                              (http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char/gifus/dan-alpharolling.gif)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on October 29, 2013, 07:53 AM
For the Vectrex:
http://www.vectrex.biz/
I have one, pretty good job.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 29, 2013, 12:20 PM
The Vectrex does need one, it has a 32 in one (?)
http://www.retrotowers.co.uk/vectrex-72-game-multicart (http://www.retrotowers.co.uk/vectrex-72-game-multicart)
aint this a complete vectrex multicart? sold here in the UK just £35! every console deserves a everdrive but im sure this multicart is complete set + homebrews and the price tag is well justified :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on October 29, 2013, 12:38 PM
The link i've posted above is for a µSD base flashcart, i.e some kind of Everdrive.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 29, 2013, 12:44 PM
The link i've posted above is for a µSD base flashcart, i.e some kind of Everdrive.
shame its sold out....my link is in stock and cheaper
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 29, 2013, 02:05 PM
For the Vectrex:
http://www.vectrex.biz/
I have one, pretty good job.

Thats been out of stock for years

The multi carts dont have all the games on them, homebrew for it is alive (kinda)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on October 29, 2013, 02:34 PM
I've bought mine about a year ago (it was already "sold out").
I just wrote to Mr. Hutchinson, asking if he could have some cart left.
He had some \o/

The link i've posted above is for a µSD base flashcart, i.e some kind of Everdrive.
shame its sold out....my link is in stock and cheaper

For sure, but it's not the same product.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on October 29, 2013, 04:18 PM
If what these guys are doing is not spamming then I don't know what is.

As far as I'm concerned in this thread spamming what you want is allowed.  I don't get why people think that spamming is always bad, sometimes I really think spamming is appropriate like what dvd2vcd is doing.  This type of spamming doesn't bother me at all it just shows how much he loves the idea of a jaguar everdrive.
It's very childish, and wouldn't be allowed on many forums if it goes to far.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 29, 2013, 06:14 PM
I've bought mine about a year ago (it was already "sold out").
I just wrote to Mr. Hutchinson, asking if he could have some cart left.
He had some \o/

The link i've posted above is for a µSD base flashcart, i.e some kind of Everdrive.
shame its sold out....my link is in stock and cheaper

For sure, but it's not the same product.
IMO the retrotowers one is better, all the games are there..plus its from a great re-seller (krikzz approved) and not from any old joes website..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 29, 2013, 06:17 PM
If what these guys are doing is not spamming then I don't know what is.

As far as I'm concerned in this thread spamming what you want is allowed.  I don't get why people think that spamming is always bad, sometimes I really think spamming is appropriate like what dvd2vcd is doing.  This type of spamming doesn't bother me at all it just shows how much he loves the idea of a jaguar everdrive.
It's very childish, and wouldn't be allowed on many forums if it goes to far.
its not spamming..and as for being childish, thats a matter of opinion, if you dont like my voice being heard then close your ears, NER ner NER ner NER (thats childish)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 29, 2013, 06:45 PM
krikzz i urge you to consider making a small run of jaguar everdrives please (just like the goatstore did with skunkboard), say about 100 or so, see how they do, i know they would sell very well, please have a think about it :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on October 29, 2013, 08:54 PM
I've bought mine about a year ago (it was already "sold out").
I just wrote to Mr. Hutchinson, asking if he could have some cart left.
He had some \o/

The link i've posted above is for a µSD base flashcart, i.e some kind of Everdrive.
shame its sold out....my link is in stock and cheaper

For sure, but it's not the same product.
IMO the retrotowers one is better, all the games are there..plus its from a great re-seller (krikzz approved) and not from any old joes website..

Sorry but as english is not my birth language, i don't understand what is "old joes".
Richard Hutchinson is one of good man, as Krikzz, really available for his customers.
He has created wonderful items, and he is still the one for Vectrex or even VirtualBoy (i mean, SD based solution)
Whan i ordered my FlashBoy for my VirtualBoy, he even sign it, as I asked :)
Pretty kind...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 30, 2013, 11:31 PM
virtualboy is a horrible system, i dont think a flash device will ever bring it back from the dead..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vonkhades on October 31, 2013, 01:13 AM
krikzz i urge you to consider making a small run of jaguar everdrives please (just like the goatstore did with skunkboard), say about 100 or so, see how they do, i know they would sell very well, please have a think about it :)

just wondering what is the next ED you want after the jaguar dvd2vcd? I can see how much you want Jaguar ED to happen... you seem to really like that console (which I have not the pleasure too try yet...).

Everyone I come back to see "news" on whats going on with krikzz new stuff I come to this thread, but I just see you request for the Jaguar which is as legitimate as any other plea for the next ED.

I still want a GB/GBC ED... thats my first, my top. Other GB flashcarts really really suck... the only one I would like to get is DrDragnDerp but its been sold out for long time now... EMS sux ... I have two of them, and one is bricked and the other has failed a couple of times the savestates...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vonkhades on October 31, 2013, 01:25 AM
ahh and can you recommend me games for jaguar?

At least ill search for them on youtube.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 31, 2013, 05:18 AM
ahh and can you recommend me games for jaguar?

At least ill search for them on youtube.
Cybermorth (I liked it), Tempst 2000 (HD update out now?), Alien vs Predator, DOOM and errr................OH LOOK AT THAT INTERESTING THING OVER THERE!!!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 31, 2013, 05:37 AM
OH LOOK AT THAT INTERESTING THING OVER THERE!!!
looking in the mirror at your black heads again?  ;D

ahh and can you recommend me games for jaguar?

At least ill search for them on youtube.
you really have to play all the titles in order to make your mind up about the jaguar, i have (on emulation) and i gotta say theres more good titles than bad, in fair its a ok system, the thing with jaguar games is that some of them are so expensive which is why a jaguae ED would be a great idea, alien vs predator is my fav on the jag and its a jag exclusive game, graphics are pretty good for its time and the atmosphere playing it is quite good aswell, i have original cart and also wolf 3D and doom, i like them there old skool and at that time no fps game could match them.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 31, 2013, 06:59 AM
Except for the PC versions, AVP is the only one out of your list that is different on different formats
OH LOOK AT THAT INTERESTING THING OVER THERE!!!
looking in the mirror at your black heads again?  ;D

Apples and owls, not all can be hit with towels

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: thepcdude on October 31, 2013, 04:43 PM
Hey krikzz, I'm a big fan of yours, thanks for all your hard work.
Here's an idea for an everdrive. How about a sega cd mega cd everdrive?  A pcb board that can emulate sega mega cd from the expansion port on the side. Of course using sd cards.
If anyone can do something like this it's you!
 Thanks thepcdude
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on October 31, 2013, 05:31 PM
It might be a bit hard to try, but in saying that someone found a way to use an old iDE HDD on a CDi (In place of the disc drive).

The Mega CD dont have copy protection anyway
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: thepcdude on October 31, 2013, 07:12 PM
Yeah I was thinking maybe it's possible to put an altera cyclone 2 (or something more powerful) on a board with "sega cd on a chip" emulation and a sd card slot. Hopefully it's possible and hopefully Krikzz would be interested.  :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on October 31, 2013, 08:00 PM
Yeah I was thinking maybe it's possible to put an altera cyclone 2 (or something more powerful) on a board with "sega cd on a chip" emulation and a sd card slot. Hopefully it's possible and hopefully Krikzz would be interested.  :)
krikzz aint interested in cd tho thats the problem :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 01, 2013, 09:58 AM
Yeah I was thinking maybe it's possible to put an altera cyclone 2 (or something more powerful) on a board with "sega cd on a chip" emulation and a sd card slot. Hopefully it's possible and hopefully Krikzz would be interested.  :)
krikzz aint interested in cd tho thats the problem :(

Maybe if thepcdude needlessly keeps posting the same request over and over again, krikzz might decide that he is interested.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 01, 2013, 12:41 PM
Yeah I was thinking maybe it's possible to put an altera cyclone 2 (or something more powerful) on a board with "sega cd on a chip" emulation and a sd card slot. Hopefully it's possible and hopefully Krikzz would be interested.  :)
krikzz aint interested in cd tho thats the problem :(

Maybe if thepcdude needlessly keeps posting the same request over and over again, krikzz might decide that he is interested.
he already said it tho like he already said he might make one for jag way before anyone and i quote your words "needlessly posted it" if you actually bothered to read the posts you will see that
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 01, 2013, 09:26 PM
Yes, I am aware of the fact that he said he might, you quoted it. Doesn't change the fact that the sheer volume of your jag everdrive "requests" is needless.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 01, 2013, 11:19 PM
Yes, I am aware of the fact that he said he might, you quoted it. Doesn't change the fact that the sheer volume of your jag everdrive "requests" is needless.
deal with it :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 02, 2013, 12:06 AM
Yes, I am aware of the fact that he said he might, you quoted it. Doesn't change the fact that the sheer volume of your jag everdrive "requests" is needless.

More requests than there are good games on the system...............
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 02, 2013, 12:40 AM
Yes, I am aware of the fact that he said he might, you quoted it. Doesn't change the fact that the sheer volume of your jag everdrive "requests" is needless.

More requests than there are good games on the system...............
your opinion in which we care nothing about :D so...moving on.............
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 02, 2013, 12:54 AM
Noobs. Let me show you how it's done to get a new ED out.

(http://eapen.byteverse.com/blog/misc/images/pussface.jpg)
We can haz GB/GBC and/or GBA Evadwive, plz?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Hanafuda on November 02, 2013, 01:35 AM
Noobs. Let me show you how it's done to get a new ED out.

That is a good idea. We'll cute/guilt it out of him.

(http://i.imgur.com/n9EFpqd.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 02, 2013, 03:19 AM
PROTIP: He's a sucker for teh kittehs.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on November 02, 2013, 08:08 PM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 02, 2013, 09:20 PM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands
Quote
they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands
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gb/gbc everdrive
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cMZUS9S24vQ/T4COe24UVQI/AAAAAAAAAK0/_rhKcHTOIes/s1600/in%2Bawe%2Bface%2Bsparkly%2Beyes%2Bdrawing.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 02, 2013, 10:13 PM
Meh
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: lord_raymon on November 02, 2013, 10:37 PM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands

(http://www.bite.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jake-the-dog2.gif)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: fhound on November 02, 2013, 11:03 PM
Why dont you do a Kickstarter?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 03, 2013, 12:07 AM
Why dont you do a Kickstarter?

Because Kickstarter is annoying,
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 03, 2013, 02:56 AM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands

(http://i44.tinypic.com/2sadukn.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 03, 2013, 01:08 PM
Good stuff Krikzz. A console that actually deserves to be played.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 03, 2013, 02:48 PM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands

Yessssss!!

And yeah a sega cd or even better pc engine cd on a fpga would be super sweet....and a royal pain in the butt to make.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Grambo on November 03, 2013, 03:34 PM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands
This line is epic.

Can't wait :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 03, 2013, 07:13 PM
Dear friends, i think it's time now to save money !
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 03, 2013, 08:28 PM
Dear friends, i think it's time now to save money !

I hope that means krikzz changed his mind about a GB/GBC ever drive!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on November 03, 2013, 09:21 PM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands

Yessssss!!

And yeah a sega cd or even better pc engine cd on a fpga would be super sweet....and a royal pain in the butt to make.

PC engine CD? I guess you refer to their failure rate, audio cap issue, because other than that I've never seen a faster CD system. Given the puny memory size on the PC engine, loading is a breeze.

A nice one would be a NeoGeoCD everdrive to install in place of the CD daughterboard, it would be sweet as hell.

In general I agree that all CD based systems would greatly benefit from a modern day replacement of their CD reader, the XBOX really shines once you use the internal HardDrive, PS2 as well [just more painful].

In no particular order I'd love CD replacements for:

PCEngineCD (just so it does not require recapping ;D)
FM Towns Marty (floppy as well, although I believe http://lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=91 would work)
AmigaCD32 (finnicky son of a b..ch)
SegaCD (it could be conceived as a mod for the CD add-on itself)
JaguarCD (just for dvd2vcd  :P, there's what ....16 official games  ::))
3DO (another finnicky one)
NeoGeoCD (top loader definitely needs a speed boost like in CDZ or better, I mean King Of Loading 94/5/6/7/....)
PS1 (the mother of shittiest CD reader heads ever conceived, shame on Sony)
Sega Saturn (it's built like a tank, this is harder due to the many revisions, I tried swapping readers among my 2 Saturns, same exact cabling but nothing worked, so this may be more complex that it ought to be)
Sega Dreamcast (I really would love to play full on GD-ROMs dumps rather than CD rips)

The next group has something available in some form, although not ideal:
PS2 (it does deteriorate ...., HDLoader kind of works OK)
XBOX (if the DVD reader fries the whole XBOX is done, WTF, who is the genius who thought to put encryption in the DVD power connector !?!?!, in a way all that is needed is an IDE DVD sim to plug into the IDE cable + power connector decryptor)
Gamecube (a la "Wii Wode" but cheaper)

Last Gen:
Wii (a cheaper Wii wode, maybe it does exists already, just mentioned it here + read next)
PS3, XBOX360 (for these ones I would prefer a NIC based solution, like a little box that simulates the relative online stores and allow "purchase" of any game and "local install", although replacing the DVD/BlueRay reader would also be an interesting avenue as it could definitely be faster when install time comes around)

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on November 03, 2013, 10:12 PM
...
PS2 (it does deteriorate ...., HDLoader kind of works OK)

What do you mean by "deteriorate"? My PS2 + softmod (Free McBoot from a memory card) + hard drive works as well now as it did when I first used it with a hard drive. Granted I've changed very little of the hard drive's contents since then (I put all of my PS2 games on it, even the ones that didn't work with HD Loader) and since then I've added more PS2 games on the rare occasions when I bought some, so if you mean that there's a problem with unclaimed space after games are deleted, or something similar, then fair enough, but in my experience there's no deterioration of quality or performance.

By the way, you mention HDLoader, have you never heard of Open PS2 Loader (psx-scene.com/forums/f150/open-ps2-loader-project-v0-9-2-a-62141/)? It's a much more compatible hard drive loader, working with games that HDLoader can't handle, such as Deus Ex, and Unreal Tournament (UT's second phase of Assault matches loads the wrong map with HDLoader, but it works right with Open PS2 Loader).

If you use Free McBoot (http://bootleg.sksapps.com/tutorials/fmcb/) then you can boot from memory card, so you don't need a disc in the DVD drive at all! My PS2 boots from PS2 card, and loads Open PS2 Loader, and in game, if I press the preset joypad buttons then the PS2 resets back to Open PS2 Loader, which is fantastically convenient.

One more great program is Winhiip (http://sksapps.com/winhiip_tutorial.html), which (when you connect your PS2's hard drive to your Windows PC) allows you to install PS2 games to the hard drive from your PC's drive, or copy PS2 games from the PS2's hard drive to your PC. This allows you to backup your PS2 games to your PC, in case the original discs get damaged. Winhiip also allows you to rename and delete PS2 games, which is convenient.

All three programs are free, and you might have to read up a bit to set them up correctly, but once it's done it's done, and it's well worth it, as a PS2 + hard drive +Free MCBoot + Open PS2 Loader is amazing.


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XBOX (if the DVD reader fries the whole XBOX is done, WTF, who is the genius who thought to put encryption in the DVD power connector !?!?!

To most people, it would seem very stupid, but I think it was just part of Microsoft's attitude of "Don't let the user fix it themselves, if anything goes wrong let the customer pay to have it fixed/replaced". I mean, the XBox didn't even come with a SCANDISK type utility in case the hard drive become corrupted, let alone a "factory restore" CD ROM containing the XBox's hard drive based OS.

Having said that, even as someone who loves the original XBox (my second favourite console, after the N64), I think the original XBox is the console that least needs an Everdrive, as once modded it does everything from hard drive, and mine is a decade or so old (the shop I bought it from modded it whilst I watched) and is still working as well as it did then. It's my emulation machine (which it's fantastic at), and all of the emulators and roms (plus XBox games) all run from the hard drive.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 03, 2013, 10:51 PM

PS1 (the mother of shittiest CD reader heads ever conceived, shame on Sony)
Somebody is working on an ISO loader for it
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ApolloBoy on November 03, 2013, 10:56 PM
SegaCD (just because ApolloBoy said so  8)
Huh?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: phoenixdownita on November 04, 2013, 03:45 AM
SegaCD (just because ApolloBoy said so  8)
Huh?

Got my fact messed up, it was Drakon that mentioned it 4 posts earlier, sorry, no offense meant I already amended my post.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 04, 2013, 05:56 AM
in the dream i saw the strangers, they kept gb/gbc everdrive in the hands
:D excellent! get yer dosh ready guys :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 04, 2013, 12:31 PM
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PS2 (it does deteriorate ...., HDLoader kind of works OK)

What do you mean by "deteriorate"? My PS2 + softmod (Free McBoot from a memory card) + hard drive works as well now as it did when I first used it with a hard drive. Granted I've changed very little of the hard drive's contents since then (I put all of my PS2 games on it, even the ones that didn't work with HD Loader) and since then I've added more PS2 games on the rare occasions when I bought some, so if you mean that there's a problem with unclaimed space after games are deleted, or something similar, then fair enough, but in my experience there's no deterioration of quality or performance.

By the way, you mention HDLoader, have you never heard of Open PS2 Loader (psx-scene.com/forums/f150/open-ps2-loader-project-v0-9-2-a-62141/)? It's a much more compatible hard drive loader, working with games that HDLoader can't handle, such as Deus Ex, and Unreal Tournament (UT's second phase of Assault matches loads the wrong map with HDLoader, but it works right with Open PS2 Loader).

If you use Free McBoot (http://bootleg.sksapps.com/tutorials/fmcb/) then you can boot from memory card, so you don't need a disc in the DVD drive at all! My PS2 boots from PS2 card, and loads Open PS2 Loader, and in game, if I press the preset joypad buttons then the PS2 resets back to Open PS2 Loader, which is fantastically convenient.

One more great program is Winhiip (http://sksapps.com/winhiip_tutorial.html), which (when you connect your PS2's hard drive to your Windows PC) allows you to install PS2 games to the hard drive from your PC's drive, or copy PS2 games from the PS2's hard drive to your PC. This allows you to backup your PS2 games to your PC, in case the original discs get damaged. Winhiip also allows you to rename and delete PS2 games, which is convenient.

All three programs are free, and you might have to read up a bit to set them up correctly, but once it's done it's done, and it's well worth it, as a PS2 + hard drive +Free MCBoot + Open PS2 Loader is amazing.


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XBOX (if the DVD reader fries the whole XBOX is done, WTF, who is the genius who thought to put encryption in the DVD power connector !?!?!

To most people, it would seem very stupid, but I think it was just part of Microsoft's attitude of "Don't let the user fix it themselves, if anything goes wrong let the customer pay to have it fixed/replaced". I mean, the XBox didn't even come with a SCANDISK type utility in case the hard drive become corrupted, let alone a "factory restore" CD ROM containing the XBox's hard drive based OS.

Having said that, even as someone who loves the original XBox (my second favourite console, after the N64), I think the original XBox is the console that least needs an Everdrive, as once modded it does everything from hard drive, and mine is a decade or so old (the shop I bought it from modded it whilst I watched) and is still working as well as it did then. It's my emulation machine (which it's fantastic at), and all of the emulators and roms (plus XBox games) all run from the hard drive.

I have the exact same setup for PS2 and XBOX.

OpenPS2Loader is a great soft really, in addition to FreeMcBoot and WinHiip, my PS2 got a second youth !
I'm looking ofr more informations about POPS, the PS One emulator, and will try to setup a complete HDD solution for the PS1.

And my XBOX is just like yours the best emulator station i could find (plus its own games.)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: sk8er000 on November 07, 2013, 01:29 PM
this should be a very interesting project for PS1 gamers:

http://ps-io.com/index.html
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 07, 2013, 01:41 PM
Mentioned it (without site link), pending price point I am interested.

Anything to reduce the amount of things I have to stick out at my games nights
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on November 07, 2013, 10:23 PM
hooray for gb/gbc everdrive. even if it is a battery waster, i am fine if it can work for 2 hours.  ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on November 08, 2013, 05:25 PM
Hooray hooray! I hope for extra hardware stuff like RTC for increased compatibility.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 08, 2013, 06:46 PM
GB/GBC will be awesome! il be using it on DSL, power consumption aint a issue for me, looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 09, 2013, 01:22 AM
GB/GBC will be awesome! il be using it on DSL, power consumption aint a issue for me, looking forward to it :)

First I heard of GB/GBC games working on DSL.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 09, 2013, 11:05 AM
GB/GBC will be awesome! il be using it on DSL, power consumption aint a issue for me, looking forward to it :)

First I heard of GB/GBC games working on DSL.
underneath (slot 2) ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 09, 2013, 11:43 AM
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/dslite/faq.jsp#gameboy
Quote

Can the Nintendo DS Lite play Game Boy games?

What it can play:

Game Boy Advance games in single-player mode only
Game Boy Advance videos

What it cannot play:

Original Game Boy or Game Boy Color games
Game Boy Advance games in multi-player mode

Why there are limitations:
There are two main reasons that the Nintendo DS Lite is not compatible with older software. For one, the system is designed for wireless play and lacks a link cable port. Because older games aren't designed to use the wireless features, they can't communicate for multiplayer games.

Also, the Nintendo DS Lite lacks the special processor that is required to play these games. Because of the age of the processor, and the difficulty in adding that processor to an already highly complicated architecture, the processor was not included in the final design of the DS Lite.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 09, 2013, 12:52 PM
GB/GBC will be awesome! il be using it on DSL, power consumption aint a issue for me, looking forward to it :)

First I heard of GB/GBC games working on DSL.
underneath (slot 2) ;)
got confused with GBASP blonde moment :(
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: vonkhades on November 11, 2013, 01:03 AM
milkyway + grumpy cat + gameboy + rainbow fart + gir + celestial teapot + cthulhu fingers + Shin-chan

(http://i.imgur.com/JnrNep9.jpg)

here is a special wallpaper... promoting next ED hehe.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 11, 2013, 04:04 AM
GB/GBC will be awesome! il be using it on DSL, power consumption aint a issue for me, looking forward to it :)

The next ED will have to be Jaguar. It would be awesome if the GB/GBC also did GBA.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: NeoXbit on November 11, 2013, 04:45 AM
I already know a bunch of die hard Jaguar fans, including myself, who would per-order a Jaguar-ED if it ever gets announced.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 11, 2013, 07:14 AM
I would like it if krikkz did a GBA ED, and made an adapter to use it on a GB/GBC just like the Bung GB Bridge...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Missingno255 on November 11, 2013, 10:03 AM
I would like it if krikkz did a GBA ED, and made an adapter to use it on a GB/GBC just like the Bung GB Bridge...
Use GB/GBC carts as universal for GB/GBC/GBA and GBA carts for GBA systems only. You wouldn't be restricted to only GBA ROMS or vice versa. Think of how Stone Age Gamer sells Super Everdrive and SD2SNES in both SNES/Super Famicom shells. Having to use an adapter kinda sucks and looks pretty horrible IMO (NES Converters are an exception to this). :P
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 11, 2013, 01:56 PM
The next ED will have to be Jaguar

I already know a bunch of die hard Jaguar fans, including myself, who would per-order a Jaguar-ED if it ever gets announced.

there is high demand for a SD based solution for JAG, fingers crossed after GB/GBC hopefully igor will look into it :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 11, 2013, 03:45 PM
I could probably get about ten+ orders for them pending on pricepoint
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 11, 2013, 06:41 PM
@dvd2vcd,

I really want a Jaguar ED as well. Ever since I sold my Skunk board 2's,y Jag/JagCD system has been lonely, and my wife wants to try that system.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 11, 2013, 06:47 PM
im pretty sure current skunkboard owners would buy a jagED due to the fact of hassle free SD loading, the krikzz brand is pretty much a huge worldwide name now and everyone i know knows about everdrive even though some of them dont own one, who knows perhaps a jagED might just be a hot seller like the skunkboard is (i wonder how many units was sold?)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 11, 2013, 06:48 PM
@dvd2vcd,

I really want a Jaguar ED as well. Ever since I sold my Skunk board 2's,y Jag/JagCD system has been lonely, and my wife wants to try that system.

how much did your rev2 skunks sell for? i would love a jagCD, imagine a jagED with a combined bypass cart function :P booting backup CD's ;) one can dream....
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 12, 2013, 03:40 AM
Each skunk board 2 sold for $200. I wouldn't mind a 2600/7800 ED since CC2's are nearly impossible yo find.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 12, 2013, 07:12 AM
Wasn't somebody working on a 7800 one? CC2 being sold out and all

PRE POSTING EDIT!!!!!!
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/165892-h2/

Seems to be stuck in development hell.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on November 13, 2013, 04:48 AM
What do you think about to make a iQue Everdrive?

(http://www.infoconsolas.com/wp-content/themes/infocon/images/museo/consolas/Nintendo/IQue/nintendo-ique.jpg)

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 13, 2013, 07:18 AM
Well that would be less sales than a game.com
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 13, 2013, 08:04 AM
What do you think about to make a iQue Everdrive?

(http://www.infoconsolas.com/wp-content/themes/infocon/images/museo/consolas/Nintendo/IQue/nintendo-ique.jpg)

Good suggestion indeed :D
Some peoples are working / worked for such device (i don't have time now to search for links).
It's a interesting challenge. but does it worth it for money ?....
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 13, 2013, 09:50 AM
(http://lovemeow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/3525053603_8f5b0d89fc-11.jpg)
Pweez make a Virtual Boy ED after GB/GBC one?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 13, 2013, 02:00 PM
A Virtual boy one exists
http://www.planetvb.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=307

Its not an ED, but its better than nothing
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 13, 2013, 03:52 PM
virtual boy = portable head ache machine  ;D what a horrible system  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on November 13, 2013, 04:19 PM
Doesn't the FlashBoy Plus have 100% compatibility already? There's not much benefit of making an ED for it besides if you can make it cheaper and with SD-storage, or is it?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 13, 2013, 04:22 PM
And there is so few games that i wonder if a SD solution is really needed.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 13, 2013, 05:07 PM
virtual boy = portable head ache machine  ;D what a horrible system  :o

Agreed.  Someone needs to port that virtual boy warioland game to a regular console and colorize it.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 13, 2013, 05:11 PM
Would you be this one, Drakon ?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 13, 2013, 06:09 PM
Would you be this one, Drakon ?

Nope, I'm busy with school.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 13, 2013, 06:13 PM
virtual boy = portable head ache machine  ;D what a horrible system  :o
That is an overblown statement, I completed Wario on it in almost one sitting and know people that have also spent ages on it with no headache
And there is so few games that i wonder if a SD solution is really needed.

One or two games for it go over the £100 mark, there is also homebrew for it, a recent one is Street fighter 2

Agreed.  Someone needs to port that virtual boy warioland game to a regular console and colorize it.

It would lose out as its one of the few games for it that works in 3D

Do any of the emulators for it support Oculus rift?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 13, 2013, 06:22 PM
Its a fact that virtual boy causes head aches, if you never had them while playing it then you must be super human, crap system which only lived for a few months if that lol i would strongly suggest avoiding this crap system -_-
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 13, 2013, 06:29 PM
Its a fact that virtual boy causes head aches, if you never had them while playing it then you must be super human, crap system which only lived for a few months if that lol i would strongly suggest avoiding this crap system -_-
I wouldnt,
The 3DS one the other hand I have a 30 go on some game on it and I had a headache for a week.

Like I said, I and a few people that I know that have played on one (I own one) have never had a headache playing on it
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Relikk on November 13, 2013, 07:00 PM
Its a fact that virtual boy causes head aches, if you never had them while playing it then you must be super human, crap system which only lived for a few months if that lol i would strongly suggest avoiding this crap system -_-

VB a "crap system"?

Good lord...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 13, 2013, 07:06 PM
Its a fact that virtual boy causes head aches, if you never had them while playing it then you must be super human, crap system which only lived for a few months if that lol i would strongly suggest avoiding this crap system -_-

VB a "crap system"?

Good lord...
yup crap system, it just wasnt virtual reality, more like a 3d gameboy, BIG let down -_-
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 13, 2013, 07:11 PM
street fighter 2 does look good tho although i could only bare watching about 20 seconds of it before my eyes felt like they were bleeding  ??? i bet ken masters feels comfortable with all that red around him matching his suit lol  ;D

still a crap system tho...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 13, 2013, 07:16 PM
Its a fact that virtual boy causes head aches, if you never had them while playing it then you must be super human, crap system which only lived for a few months if that lol i would strongly suggest avoiding this crap system -_-

 ???

 :o

 :-X
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 13, 2013, 07:25 PM
Its a fact that virtual boy causes head aches, if you never had them while playing it then you must be super human, crap system which only lived for a few months if that lol i would strongly suggest avoiding this crap system -_-

 ???

 :o

 :-X

 8)

 ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 13, 2013, 07:27 PM
its obvious whats gonna be made after the GB/GBC everdrive anyway  8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 14, 2013, 12:01 AM
It would lose out as its one of the few games for it that works in 3D

Perhaps, but I'd rather the game be in colour than in headache 3d.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 14, 2013, 12:10 AM
Virtual boy had a lot of flaws, I agree. The SF2 clone looks like what an official VB game should have been. I may best that out with my flash cart. A doom clone would have been nice. Or a way to make the VB display grey/black and a headset attachment
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 14, 2013, 01:22 AM
If the vb had colour and a way to plug into a tv it would be fine.....but it doesn't.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 14, 2013, 06:31 AM
If the vb had colour and a way to plug into a tv it would be fine.....but it doesn't.

Um...

http://furrtek.free.fr/?a=vbtvout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCqky6sZ_R0
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 14, 2013, 07:20 AM
If the vb had colour and a way to plug into a tv it would be fine.....but it doesn't.

The Gameboy had the same amount of colours and no body is complaining about that not having any
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 10:22 AM
If the vb had colour and a way to plug into a tv it would be fine.....but it doesn't.

The Gameboy had the same amount of colours and no body is complaining about that not having any
Yes but the gameboy didnt feel like you had a refridgerator strapped to your eyes lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 14, 2013, 11:06 AM
The VirtualBoy is not strapped to your head but put on the table.
Due to your Jag-love, you may have been confused with the Jag Head-set ;)
The other head-set that i know to be strapped to the head is the Vectrex one (pretty ugly though) and the Famicom 3D system (never tried this one).
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 11:48 AM
The VirtualBoy is not strapped to your head but put on the table.
i know...its a real shame, the concept of VB is a joke...they couldnt even get the design correct, aint virtual reality being able to walk around as in a 'virtual reality'? not stuck to a table getting eye strain, head aches and oh yes a new one...neck strain looking into it on a table, should have been called 3D boy, VB should stay dead and buried, crap system, crap games, no matter how poor ppl think the jag is its STILL 100 times better than VB  ;D also the entire game library only being about 10 makes it suck even more lol

see for yourself this dude is a ninty fanboy and even he thinks VB sucks balls lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 14, 2013, 01:15 PM
May I say that it's pretty funny that you ask from people to understand and maybe agree with your love for the Jaguar system (and everybody knows that this system is an economic and gaming fail), when you spit and laugh at the VirtualBoy.
With the VB, Gunpei Yokoi and Nintendo tried to bring us a new game experiment, as GCE with Vectrex or even SEGA have done before.
Well, they failed. This time. At least they tried.
They tried the D-pad with the NES, the L/R button with the SNES, the joystick and rumble pack with the N64, the dual screen with G&W and later with DS, the touch screen with the DS, the movin' gameplay with the Wii, the autostereoscopic screen with the 3DS.
i think it's a bit too much to say VB is a crap. It's a funny/weirdo system, with its pros and cons.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 14, 2013, 02:19 PM
The VirtualBoy is not strapped to your head but put on the table.
Due to your Jag-love, you may have been confused with the Jag Head-set ;)
The other head-set that i know to be strapped to the head is the Vectrex one (pretty ugly though) and the Famicom 3D system (never tried this one).
Vectrex one is good but weird, spinning disc?
Jaguar nearly had one
Tiger R zone, what a load of shit
Endless Tomy ones
There was a third party thing for Sega/Nintendo
I have used a Jag one and found it a bit rubbish

The VirtualBoy is not strapped to your head but put on the table.
i know...its a real shame, the concept of VB is a joke...they couldnt even get the design correct, aint virtual reality being able to walk around as in a 'virtual reality'? not stuck to a table getting eye strain, head aches and oh yes a new one...neck strain looking into it on a table, should have been called 3D boy, VB should stay dead and buried, crap system, crap games, no matter how poor ppl think the jag is its STILL 100 times better than VB  ;D also the entire game library only being about 10 makes it suck even more lol

see for yourself this dude is a ninty fanboy and even he thinks VB sucks balls lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyVAp0tOk5A)
Try walking round with a VR head set on, they are not light and the cables get in the way
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 14, 2013, 02:35 PM
Now you mentionned it, i can remember I heard about the Tiger R-Zone. But it's not a 3D display screen as the others listed.
Where could you try the Jag headset ?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 14, 2013, 03:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOVGbI0kLO0&list=PLF43076B8B84BC042&index=4

DAMN!! Ive lost weight since then.
The guy that owned it sold it to someone in Italy, there's only supposed to be 2 in existance
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 14, 2013, 06:22 PM
May I say that it's pretty funny that you ask from people to understand and maybe agree with your love for the Jaguar system (and everybody knows that this system is an economic and gaming fail), when you spit and laugh at the VirtualBoy.
With the VB, Gunpei Yokoi and Nintendo tried to bring us a new game experiment, as GCE with Vectrex or even SEGA have done before.
Well, they failed. This time. At least they tried.
They tried the D-pad with the NES, the L/R button with the SNES, the joystick and rumble pack with the N64, the dual screen with G&W and later with DS, the touch screen with the DS, the movin' gameplay with the Wii, the autostereoscopic screen with the 3DS.
i think it's a bit too much to say VB is a crap. It's a funny/weirdo system, with its pros and cons.

(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag7/bkgurl208/Animated%20GIFs/bth_tumblr_md1eqkIyap1qiz3j8o1_500_zps6d89bea6.gif)
(http://media.giphy.com/media/BQAk13taTaKYw/giphy.gif)
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/2053966/applause-o.gif)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 06:53 PM
May I say that it's pretty funny that you ask from people to understand and maybe agree with your love for the Jaguar system (and everybody knows that this system is an economic and gaming fail)
im not disputing that, but the VB was a pile of crap and that was also a"MASSIVE economic and gaming failure in the HISTORY of video games" and failed a hell of alot quicker than the JAG did, how many games was released for both systems? JAG had like 10 times more (inc CD) at least the JAG VR set was actually VR and it was in COLOUR! in short..the JAG is way better than VB.

goombakid now thats worthy of applause you TOOL

(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag7/bkgurl208/Animated%20GIFs/bth_tumblr_md1eqkIyap1qiz3j8o1_500_zps6d89bea6.gif)
(http://media.giphy.com/media/BQAk13taTaKYw/giphy.gif)
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/2053966/applause-o.gif)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Relikk on November 14, 2013, 07:00 PM
the entire game library only being about 10 makes it suck even more lol

Still 10 games better than the entire Jaguar library. 8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 07:01 PM
anyway rant over, KRIKzz when are you announcing the JAGUAR EVERDRIVE so we can please put these narrow minded people silent!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 07:29 PM
Still 10 games better than the entire Jaguar library. 8)
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/bsmajliji/troll-detector.gif)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 14, 2013, 08:44 PM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess. They both suck ass. It's no secret but the VB sucks less ass than the Jag thanks to Wario Land.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 14, 2013, 09:14 PM
And I would add Atari Karts
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 14, 2013, 09:26 PM
And I would add Atari Karts
never played it as its hard to obtain but im guessing its good
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on November 15, 2013, 12:02 AM
You are exaggerating things again. If we can trust wikipedia, Jaguar has 82 games and VirtualBoy has 22, that's not 10 times more. I have only played it on emulators but I don't think VirtualBoy's problem was crappy games. There's several good games for it anyway.

However an ED for VB needs to be able to hold multiple games (preferably all games and still room for homebrew and the prototype games), support multiple saves and not cost more than FlashBoy Plus for it to be useful.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 15, 2013, 02:10 AM
If the vb had colour and a way to plug into a tv it would be fine.....but it doesn't.

The Gameboy had the same amount of colours and no body is complaining about that not having any

It bothers me.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 15, 2013, 06:34 AM
If you recall, I did ask along side you on having KRIKzz make a Jag ED. NEVER have I bad mouthed your coveted system. NEVER! I DO want an Atari Jaguar, and I WOULD like to see a Jag ED as well.

I just, out of the blue...maybe for some giggles, asked if there might be a possibility for a VBED, JUST ASKED! I wasn't ramming it down everyone's throat, JUST ASKING! Yes, I am aware of a flash solution for the VB, but I would much rather see if a ED in this realm is a possible.

For you, to spite a console I like, calling it horrible, lame, etc., which is the same that EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING about your precious system, it seem kinda ironic. "Narrow minded people"? I'm sure...

/rant

.....So yeah. Hey, KRIKzz! You wouldn't happen to have a teaser PCB pic of the GB/GBC ED like you did for the Turbo ED you're willing to share, do you? I've already have a sac cart for it, ready to gut.

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KRIKzz on November 15, 2013, 06:45 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img31/5828/jt0c.png)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on November 15, 2013, 06:54 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img31/5828/jt0c.png)

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GOD, I freaking (http://www.multyshades.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/1.gif)you, KRIKzz!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 15, 2013, 07:32 AM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome
the entire game library only being about 10 makes it suck even more lol

Still 10 games better than the entire Jaguar library. 8)
TEMPEST 2000!!!!!
Console ports to other machines seemed to lack a certain thing
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 15, 2013, 07:51 AM
So GB/GBC is not a fairy tale...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: keropi on November 15, 2013, 09:21 AM
a-w-e-s-o-m-e  8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 15, 2013, 10:00 AM
we already knew of a GB/GBC everdrive anyway lol he made a proto last year  ::) he stopped progress because of power consumption he then decided to work on famicom everdrive.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 15, 2013, 10:24 AM
With no promise or preorder at all, could you give us some kind of release date/period please KRIKzz ?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 15, 2013, 10:34 AM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome

If by awesome, you mean a very slow clone of Doom then yeah, it's awesome.

AvP on PC was a much better game. Play that instead.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 15, 2013, 11:09 AM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome

If by awesome, you mean a very slow clone of Doom then yeah, it's awesome.

AvP on PC was a much better game. Play that instead.
such a bell end n00b, wrong again, and no thank you, prefer console gaming and i prefer exclusive jaguar games  8)
ebay....PC doom = £1
            JAG alien vs predator = £50

do the math....
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 15, 2013, 11:14 AM
With no promise or preorder at all, could you give us some kind of release date/period please KRIKzz ?
^^ what he said :) am curious also
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RetroRepair on November 15, 2013, 02:49 PM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome

If by awesome, you mean a very slow clone of Doom then yeah, it's awesome.

AvP on PC was a much better game. Play that instead.
such a bell end n00b, wrong again, and no thank you, prefer console gaming and i prefer exclusive jaguar games  8)
ebay....PC doom = £1
            JAG alien vs predator = £50

do the math....

Yeah and the math says that Jag AvP is overpriced. I did used to LOVE it when I was younger but it's held up really, really poorly.

I maintain the only good game on the system today is Tempest 2000 as other ports were substandard.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 15, 2013, 08:22 PM
 ??? its of no suprise as we get older the tech gets better, of course AVP aint gonna hold up against call of duty ghosts  ::) but AVP sells all the time for £50 and is deffo worth it.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 15, 2013, 09:35 PM
Id rather play AVP, more variety than in COD

Actually id play it right now if I could find my Jag pad and scart leads for it where cheaper. (screw RF)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 15, 2013, 11:41 PM
Id rather play AVP, more variety than in COD

Actually id play it right now if I could find my Jag pad and scart leads for it where cheaper. (screw RF)
RF sucks lol that we both can agree on lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 16, 2013, 02:35 AM
seems like jag carts are increasing in value since i purchased most of mine about 3 years ago, back then i picked up AVP for about £20 also had a few others for around te £20 mark that seem to be getting a bit pricey these days. atari karts was too rare and expensive a few years back though so i never purchased/played that one. same can be said about breakout 2000, shame aswell becaause the jaguar breakout 200 is an exclusive title and different to the ps1 game of the same name, would have loved to tried this one out aswell.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on November 16, 2013, 01:36 PM
@krikzz: Great news for gb/gbc everdrive. Please share more info with us when it is possible.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Kerr Avon on November 16, 2013, 05:02 PM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome

If by awesome, you mean a very slow clone of Doom then yeah, it's awesome.

AvP on PC was a much better game. Play that instead.
such a bell end n00b, wrong again, and no thank you, prefer console gaming and i prefer exclusive jaguar games  8)
ebay....PC doom = £1
            JAG alien vs predator = £50

do the math....


I don't know what AvP on the Jaguar is like, but the PC version (from the year 2000) is fantastic. AvP 2 (PC) is good but not great, AvP (PC, Xbox 360, and PS3, from around 2009) is OK at best, and Alien: Colonial Marines (PC, XBox 360, and PS3, around a year ago) is not much good at all, though not quite as bad as some people say.

But the reason I've posted is to say that the financial cost of a retro game is almost never in proportion to the games quality. Often the opposite, actually, since good games sell better so tend to be more common so tend to cost less when buying them used. On the N64, for example, many of it's best games, such as Goldeneye, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Perfect Dark are dirt cheap, because there were so many of them sold. On the other hand, the most expensive N64 games are often games like Clay Fighter 63 and 1/3rd, which is supposed to be not much good at all, but is so rare that it's the Holy Grail of N64 collecting for some people. There are some N64 games that are actually still very expensive and are actually very good, such as Sin and Punishment, Indiana Jones*, and Conker's Bad Fur Day, but these are expensive because they are rare, not because they are good. CBFD and Indiana Jones had limited production runs, and Sin and Punishment is JAP only.

So the fact that AvP on the Jaguar costs a lot more than the PC version is irrelevant to either games quality, it only implies rarity. AvP on the Jaguar might be a brilliant game, I don't know, but you can't judge a retro game by it's market value.


* Well, I've heard Indiana Jones is good, I've not played it myself, as it's not available in PAL and it's one of the few NTSC games I've tried on the ED64 that my TV can't handle.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 16, 2013, 05:52 PM
i have AVP and i like it, its a jag exclusive  ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on November 18, 2013, 02:27 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img31/5828/jt0c.png)

OMG! O_O

Im throwing money to the screen but nothing happend


Thanx Krikkzz
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 18, 2013, 02:34 AM
I have waited so long for a better GB/GBC flash cart to retire my Doctor GB carts.

My prayers have finally been answered...

I hope Jaguar ED is next. Or perhaps Atari 7800/2600 (my Cuttle Cart 2 broke.)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 18, 2013, 10:05 AM
To be fair to the VB, it has Wario Land. The Jag has......erm......nothing I guess
you guess wrong...jag has alien vs predator which is awesome

If by awesome, you mean a very slow clone of Doom then yeah, it's awesome.

AvP on PC was a much better game. Play that instead.
such a bell end n00b, wrong again, and no thank you, prefer console gaming and i prefer exclusive jaguar games  8)
ebay....PC doom = £1
            JAG alien vs predator = £50

do the math....

Bell end noob? Wrong again? I'm not the one saying "AvP costs more than doom so it must be better". What an idiot. You don't have an argument to back up the jag. It's shite but you're too stubborn to admit it. It goes down on any list as one of the worst consoles of all time for good reason. It's got nothing good going for it. Oh but you have to pay a lot of pennies for some of the games so that must mean they're good.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 18, 2013, 11:24 AM
I have waited so long for a better GB/GBC flash cart to retire my Doctor GB carts.

My prayers have finally been answered...

I hope Jaguar ED is next. Or perhaps Atari 7800/2600 (my Cuttle Cart 2 broke.)
for your 2600, did you search for the Harmony cart ?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 18, 2013, 02:06 PM
Bell end noob? Wrong again? I'm not the one saying "AvP costs more than doom so it must be better". What an idiot. You don't have an argument to back up the jag. It's shite but you're too stubborn to admit it. It goes down on any list as one of the worst consoles of all time for good reason. It's got nothing good going for it. Oh but you have to pay a lot of pennies for some of the games so that must mean they're good.

Calm down dear, its only a forum

Anyway people that put the Jag on a list of worst consoles ever is generally someone that has not played a lot of consoles, power wise its a 2D powerhouse.

Jaguar CD on the other hand is a pile of tosh
As well as the 32X
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: gladders on November 18, 2013, 03:23 PM
The thing that concerns me about the Jaguar is that the CD add-on is phenomenonally expensive. Makes me hesitate taking the plunge.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 18, 2013, 04:09 PM
Bell end noob? Wrong again? I'm not the one saying "AvP costs more than doom so it must be better". What an idiot. You don't have an argument to back up the jag. It's shite but you're too stubborn to admit it. It goes down on any list as one of the worst consoles of all time for good reason. It's got nothing good going for it. Oh but you have to pay a lot of pennies for some of the games so that must mean they're good.
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/bsmajliji/troll-detector.gif)

 i knew it....;D a damn n00b troll thats only ever owned 1 N64 in his whole life lol before you actually comment about any other system it might be a good idea to actually own it  :-X

people that put the Jag on a list of worst consoles ever is generally someone that has not played a lot of consoles, power wise its a 2D powerhouse.

Jaguar CD on the other hand is a pile of tosh
As well as the 32X
^ very sensible i totally agree
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 18, 2013, 04:37 PM
It helps when you know people that program for it.

For the record, I got AVP for it for £5 BOXED WITH BOOK!

DOOM cost me £40, That was new

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 18, 2013, 04:53 PM
Bell end noob? Wrong again? I'm not the one saying "AvP costs more than doom so it must be better". What an idiot. You don't have an argument to back up the jag. It's shite but you're too stubborn to admit it. It goes down on any list as one of the worst consoles of all time for good reason. It's got nothing good going for it. Oh but you have to pay a lot of pennies for some of the games so that must mean they're good.

Calm down dear, its only a forum

Anyway people that put the Jag on a list of worst consoles ever is generally someone that has not played a lot of consoles, power wise its a 2D powerhouse.

Jaguar CD on the other hand is a pile of tosh
As well as the 32X
Jaguar is not the worst console for sure (we should ask people here what could be this worst console ever ^^)
but Jaguar could be listed as one of the most disappointing.

As one of the worst console ever (and choosing in the well-known, not the one risen from the darkness of nowhere), i would vote for the AMSTRAD GX4000;
i've never seen any system with some much AV/LAN/extra plug-in or out, but with so little power... even the design is one of the most weird i could see; It looks like a bad clone of a StarWars spaceship.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 18, 2013, 04:57 PM
(http://www.old-computers.com/museum/photos/amstrad_gx4000_rear.jpg)

 :o think im gonna puke..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 18, 2013, 05:04 PM
the 1 thing i dislike about the jag, theres no cart slot dust flap :( other than that its a nice design.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 18, 2013, 05:35 PM
the 1 thing i dislike about the jag, theres no cart slot dust flap :( other than that its a nice design.

you wouldn't need to worry about a cart dust flap with a jag everdrive plugged into the cartridge slot 24/7 mate  ;)

The thing that concerns me about the Jaguar is that the CD add-on is phenomenonally expensive. Makes me hesitate taking the plunge.

the possibility of running cd games from iso format with a jaguar flashcart has been discussed before. apparently (unlike some other cd system addons) it would be fairly easy to add this function to a flashcart for the jaguar making the need for the overly priced unreliable cd addon redundant. this possible feature alone for me is a great selling point bearing in mind that there are homebrew games for the jaguar that come out only in cd format.
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 18, 2013, 05:36 PM
the 1 thing i dislike about the jag, theres no cart slot dust flap :( other than that its a nice design.

Since you are such a Jag fan, could you confirm if there ever really existed a cart with every 2600 game on it?
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 18, 2013, 06:24 PM
the 1 thing i dislike about the jag, theres no cart slot dust flap :( other than that its a nice design.

Since you are such a Jag fan, could you confirm if there ever really existed a cart with every 2600 game on it?
2600 and Jag are two different machines from two different minds
Due to homebrew that would be impossible.

But the Harmony cart exists that you can put every game on
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 18, 2013, 07:10 PM
Bell end noob? Wrong again? I'm not the one saying "AvP costs more than doom so it must be better". What an idiot. You don't have an argument to back up the jag. It's shite but you're too stubborn to admit it. It goes down on any list as one of the worst consoles of all time for good reason. It's got nothing good going for it. Oh but you have to pay a lot of pennies for some of the games so that must mean they're good.

 i knew it....;D a damn n00b troll thats only ever owned 1 N64 in his whole life lol before you actually comment about any other system it might be a good idea to actually own it  :-X

You're arguments are pathetic. Generally something a 5 year old would come out with.


Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 18, 2013, 07:15 PM
i was thinking of getting an harmony cart a while back but i read somewhere that there were some compatibility issues with some games. i cant remember the tech details but there was a reason that some games would not work so i decided against it. maybe if a 2600 flash cart comes out in the future with 100% compatibility i would get one.
 guess i would have to get the old style vcs though because i heard that some games have compatibility issues with the jnr console version. i had a jnr version when i was a kid with about 50 or so games and they all worked fine so i guess the incompatibility with games on the jnr version is minimal.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 18, 2013, 07:22 PM
Its something to do with the size of the ROMs, the coming soon Zippy the porcupine wont run on it in full.
4k is hard to work with

There is also regional differences, get the wrong one for your console and the on srceen menus become hard to read
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 18, 2013, 08:27 PM
i was thinking of getting an harmony cart a while back but i read somewhere that there were some compatibility issues with some games. i cant remember the tech details but there was a reason that some games would not work so i decided against it. maybe if a 2600 flash cart comes out in the future with 100% compatibility i would get one.
 guess i would have to get the old style vcs though because i heard that some games have compatibility issues with the jnr console version. i had a jnr version when i was a kid with about 50 or so games and they all worked fine so i guess the incompatibility with games on the jnr version is minimal.

Harmony is about 70$, it worth them.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 18, 2013, 08:56 PM
Bell end noob? Wrong again? I'm not the one saying "AvP costs more than doom so it must be better". What an idiot. You don't have an argument to back up the jag. It's shite but you're too stubborn to admit it. It goes down on any list as one of the worst consoles of all time for good reason. It's got nothing good going for it. Oh but you have to pay a lot of pennies for some of the games so that must mean they're good.

 i knew it....;D a damn n00b troll thats only ever owned 1 N64 in his whole life lol before you actually comment about any other system it might be a good idea to actually own it  :-X

You're arguments are pathetic. Generally something a 5 year old would come out with.
keep your cheap jag comments to urself then and we wont have a problem :D
Title: Re: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 18, 2013, 08:57 PM
the 1 thing i dislike about the jag, theres no cart slot dust flap :( other than that its a nice design.

Since you are such a Jag fan, could you confirm if there ever really existed a cart with every 2600 game on it?
harmony carts are easy to get hold of, aint sure about a complete multicart existing
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: iddod on November 19, 2013, 12:55 AM
to Igor...
very pleased with the reveal of the EDGB, and very much looking forward to release day... thank you... ;D

to everyone ruining the reveal with the bickering...
seriously? i mean, seriously?  >:(

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 19, 2013, 03:48 AM
Its something to do with the size of the ROMs, the coming soon Zippy the porcupine wont run on it in full.
4k is hard to work with

There is also regional differences, get the wrong one for your console and the on srceen menus become hard to read

yeah your right. the size of the rom appears to be the problem :( the harmony cart would still be an ideal purchase but i passed in case something better comes along. if not i will continue to emulate 2600 on my xbox for now. i do prefer gaming on real hardware though so if a 100% cart comes along i will certainly get it right away.

as for the news about the gb/gbc everdrive i am very pleased to hear this news and will purchase one soon as they are available :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 19, 2013, 02:06 PM
to everyone ruining the reveal with the bickering...
seriously? i mean, seriously?  >:(
i apoligise for mine :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: jacksprat1990 on November 20, 2013, 10:26 PM
to everyone ruining the reveal with the bickering...
seriously? i mean, seriously?  >:(

Fair point. I've had enough of that prick anyway.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 21, 2013, 04:36 AM
to everyone ruining the reveal with the bickering...
seriously? i mean, seriously?  >:(

Fair point. I've had enough of that prick anyway.

He apologized and moved on in a mannerly way why do you feel the need to shine him on?

As for the Amstrad GX4000 I really don't think it's so horrible looking.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: pon on November 21, 2013, 06:11 AM
Regarding EDGB, what is the chance EDGB will support GBA games as well GB/GBC?


to everyone ruining the reveal with the bickering...
seriously? i mean, seriously?  >:(

Fair point. I've had enough of that prick anyway.

He apologized and moved on in a mannerly way why do you feel the need to shine him on?

As for the Amstrad GX4000 I really don't think it's so horrible looking.

Shut up and leave Drakon
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 21, 2013, 06:14 AM
Shut up and leave Drakon
(http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/bsmajliji/troll-detector.gif)
WOW! another troll snuck in...  :o
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 21, 2013, 06:21 AM
Regarding EDGB, what is the chance EDGB will support GBA games as well GB/GBC?
zero, totally different cart tech..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 21, 2013, 06:39 AM
I hope the GB/GBC will have a built in menu system like DGBmax that will allow for different color pallets for Mono games...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on November 21, 2013, 03:53 PM
Its something to do with the size of the ROMs, the coming soon Zippy the porcupine wont run on it in full.
4k is hard to work with

There is also regional differences, get the wrong one for your console and the on srceen menus become hard to read

yeah your right. the size of the rom appears to be the problem :( the harmony cart would still be an ideal purchase but i passed in case something better comes along. if not i will continue to emulate 2600 on my xbox for now. i do prefer gaming on real hardware though so if a 100% cart comes along i will certainly get it right away.

as for the news about the gb/gbc everdrive i am very pleased to hear this news and will purchase one soon as they are available :)

Harmony's compatibility is well over 99%.  It's practically impossible to make ANY flash cart be truly 100%, there will always be that one weird game that uses a programming trick no one used except for the one guy who made it, and he retired immediately after making it, now he herds goats in the Andes with no internet connection.  And has amnesia.  And his arms were cut off.

My point being, don't hold off on a Harmony (or any flash cart for that matter) because it only plays 2783 out of 2789 games.  Trust me, those last 6 aren't games you played as a kid anyway.  If you like playing on real hardware, get the cart and enjoy the real hardware.  Though by the same token, if you like/have no problem with emulation, continue that way.  I myself do both.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on November 21, 2013, 04:02 PM
Its something to do with the size of the ROMs, the coming soon Zippy the porcupine wont run on it in full.
4k is hard to work with

There is also regional differences, get the wrong one for your console and the on srceen menus become hard to read

yeah your right. the size of the rom appears to be the problem :( the harmony cart would still be an ideal purchase but i passed in case something better comes along. if not i will continue to emulate 2600 on my xbox for now. i do prefer gaming on real hardware though so if a 100% cart comes along i will certainly get it right away.

as for the news about the gb/gbc everdrive i am very pleased to hear this news and will purchase one soon as they are available :)

Harmony's compatibility is well over 99%.  It's practically impossible to make ANY flash cart be truly 100%, there will always be that one weird game that uses a programming trick no one used except for the one guy who made it, and he retired immediately after making it, now he herds goats in the Andes with no internet connection.  And has amnesia.  And his arms were cut off.

My point being, don't hold off on a Harmony (or any flash cart for that matter) because it only plays 2783 out of 2789 games.  Trust me, those last 6 aren't games you played as a kid anyway.  If you like playing on real hardware, get the cart and enjoy the real hardware.  Though by the same token, if you like/have no problem with emulation, continue that way.  I myself do both.

what i tend to do these days is use emulation just for the few games that are incompatible. maybe i will get an harmony cart... it's not like there are too expensive. i'm in two minds about it tbh. i would prefer a Atari 2600 everdrive and maybe we will see one in the future. i think krikzz would get those troublesome 4k games working somehow lol.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 21, 2013, 09:46 PM
Shut up and leave Drakon

How about you find something more productive to do with your time?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on November 21, 2013, 11:08 PM

what i tend to do these days is use emulation just for the few games that are incompatible. maybe i will get an harmony cart... it's not like there are too expensive. i'm in two minds about it tbh. i would prefer a Atari 2600 everdrive and maybe we will see one in the future. i think krikzz would get those troublesome 4k games working somehow lol.

About £40 for access to almost every 2600 game is good value
Yes even Double Dragon, also some 2600 carts sell for more than that.

I still buy carts for it when even i see one going cheap
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: johey on November 26, 2013, 03:22 PM
Everdrive GB is the best news I could possibly dream of! But please, name it Everboy and you'll make my day.  8)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 26, 2013, 06:25 PM
Everdrive GB is the best news I could possibly dream of! But please, name it Everboy and you'll make my day.  8)
Everboy sounds chinese lol everdrive GB sounds more uniform with his other products
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on November 28, 2013, 05:00 AM
Check this DVD2VCD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQoobB4Un20

 ;D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on November 28, 2013, 05:40 AM
magnus87,

I want one of those...can I buy it somewhere?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 28, 2013, 11:53 AM
Check this DVD2VCD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQoobB4Un20

 ;D
just one word WOW! love the design and il be looking into this with great interest, doom with music has got to be the most impressive port, it sucked that it didnt have music in the first place, thanks for finding this info mate! and its fresh! 2013! nice to see jag devs are still working hard to bring this kinda work for the world to see :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 28, 2013, 12:01 PM
i would love this jag collection lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4hXwTF43qY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4hXwTF43qY)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on November 28, 2013, 12:52 PM
The playone looks great.  I'm not watching the video with sound because people are sleeping.  Is it some sort of clone?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on November 28, 2013, 02:01 PM
It's rather some kind of home-made 2-in-1 Jaguar+CD unit.
Really nice job, even if the painting could be better.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on November 28, 2013, 02:26 PM
The paint work aint the best but the concept of the unit is amaZing with that custom pcb with SD interface i wonder whats possible with it now, amazing work for sure..
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on December 01, 2013, 09:45 PM
I will happily buy a PlayOne when it becomes available, damn.  I like his original design better, but this one is nice too.

I like that they said they might do Component video on it too when I was looking at their forum.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on December 01, 2013, 10:13 PM
I hope this jaguar hybrid really is for sale some day - as long as it has RGB output.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: saturnu on December 06, 2013, 01:23 AM
What I would love to see, would be something like precompiled librarys with some headers for the upcoming everdrives.
With functions like fat/sdram access or rom flashing/startup.
But i'm not quiet sure if this is a good idea in respect of preventing others from creating clones. ^^
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rocketblast on December 11, 2013, 03:15 AM
Colecovision, small market.  Atari 5200 I'm not sure how many would buy... Atari 2600 blows.  coleco and 5200 are better.  NeoGeo is expensive and the market is too small to validate making a flash cart for it (if we had arcades still, then ok yeah but we don't).  Jaguar is a good idea but look how difficult it is to sell the skunkboard when they are available, that is a wash.  Suffice to say, if N64 flash cart sales are good that is luck right there.  Although I am having a lot more fun playing my ED641.01 than my SD2SNES both of which Krikzz soldered together :D

GB/GBC one is a good idea since there is an enormous attachment rate even still for those 2 consoles (GB/Pocket/GBC).  Apparantly a lot of people still do play it.  I own one mint condition "brick" Gameboy and one Gameboy pocket that needs a new shell..as well as a Gameboy color.  That system was very very fun to play on and I remember tons of people played pokemon on all 3 I mentioned.  some still do.

Do you know what I wonder though. I wonder if Krikzz could make something for the Sega Dreamcast since people pine over that so much and the current hardware solution is very sub-par (slow data transfer rate).  if the Dreamcast had some replacement for the gd-rom that stored data on hard disk, flash, or ssd, now we would be talking.  Although at that point, people will probably then want a solution for PSX although one can play the full library simply on a PSP.

Well looks to me like GB/GBC device is up next, a welcome addition.  The N8 is pretty awesome too if you ask me and beyond my hopes, in mapper support.  So it looks like it dominates the competition so far.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on December 11, 2013, 03:39 AM
Wow looks like someone is selling a cuttle cart 3 on ebay...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on December 11, 2013, 07:17 AM
Atari 2600 blows. 

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3988070912/h0161F280/)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rocketblast on December 11, 2013, 08:47 AM
Atari 2600 blows. 

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3988070912/h0161F280/)

lol firstly, neither of my cats would approve of that console (nonetheless they would be frightened of the thing) and second, have fun playing poke the dot with the stick :)  5200 > 2600.  Coleco > Atari for that matter :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on December 11, 2013, 01:55 PM
Testament to how good it is, people still make games for it, the others on the other hand...................

Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rocketblast on December 11, 2013, 07:37 PM
Testament to how good it is, people still make games for it, the others on the other hand...................

People still make games for Coleco and possibly 5200 as well among other things such as NES, SNES, etc.  coleco is more than likely more ideal and easier to code for.  2600 programs mostly were done in pure ASM and even the original designers had problems porting arcade games to it.  And look at pacman foor 2600, an atrocity, pure garbage.  The 5200 version is more spot on.

I still stand by that the GB/GBC is a more popular choice than all of these and that is proven by the poll.  I would definitely game on a b&w gb system over a 2600 ;)  Better CPU (basically the same CPU the colecovision has in it lol) and better games, better fun factor.  Sure there were some games I thought were neat for 2600 but I was maybe what 7 years old at that time.  In those days, we could sit a hot wheels car on an incline then let it go and be content.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on December 11, 2013, 07:53 PM
well, after a gb/gbc, i want a gba everdrive. sure there is ez flash iv, but i think gba deserves krikzz quality.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rocketblast on December 11, 2013, 07:56 PM
well, after a gb/gbc, i want a gba everdrive. sure there is ez flash iv, but i think gba deserves krikzz quality.

It would need RTC because that is what ez flash lacks.  the best one ever made was m3 perfect since it had all the features, including nand which apparently the ez flash has as well.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: reprep on December 11, 2013, 08:14 PM
well, after a gb/gbc, i want a gba everdrive. sure there is ez flash iv, but i think gba deserves krikzz quality.

It would need RTC because that is what ez flash lacks.  the best one ever made was m3 perfect since it had all the features, including nand which apparently the ez flash has as well.

RTC isn't a dealbreaker for me. i am more interested in 1. SDHC card support (no more 2 gb limit) 2. Auto save patching (no more stupid transfer program) 3. better build quality
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on December 11, 2013, 10:43 PM
Testament to how good it is, people still make games for it, the others on the other hand...................

People still make games for Coleco and possibly 5200 as well among other things such as NES, SNES, etc.  coleco is more than likely more ideal and easier to code for.  2600 programs mostly were done in pure ASM and even the original designers had problems porting arcade games to it.  And look at pacman foor 2600, an atrocity, pure garbage.  The 5200 version is more spot on.


Thats because PacMan was rushed, theres a homebrew of it out that fixes its problems
Some one is also working on a 3D game engine for it,
Anyway the 5200 lived for two years then died, didn't even get a release outside the US and was so big, Microsoft had to make a bigger console years later so that they could hold the title of "Biggest console"

As we have all seen in the past, the most powerful console is never really the best.


This internet conversation will not end and might end up spilling out, so can we both agree to disagree on that the 2600 is an awesome machine?
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: rocketblast on December 12, 2013, 02:27 AM
Testament to how good it is, people still make games for it, the others on the other hand...................

People still make games for Coleco and possibly 5200 as well among other things such as NES, SNES, etc.  coleco is more than likely more ideal and easier to code for.  2600 programs mostly were done in pure ASM and even the original designers had problems porting arcade games to it.  And look at pacman foor 2600, an atrocity, pure garbage.  The 5200 version is more spot on.


Thats because PacMan was rushed, theres a homebrew of it out that fixes its problems
Some one is also working on a 3D game engine for it,
Anyway the 5200 lived for two years then died, didn't even get a release outside the US and was so big, Microsoft had to make a bigger console years later so that they could hold the title of "Biggest console"

As we have all seen in the past, the most powerful console is never really the best.


This internet conversation will not end and might end up spilling out, so can we both agree to disagree on that the 2600 is an awesome machine?

2600 was the most popular home entertainment console Atari ever built (unless I am mistaken and it was the 5200 which was backward compatible, my neighbor had one and I didn't know all that stuff when I was a kid so I often got it confused with 2600 however Food  Fight doesn't exist on 2600 so I'm confident that he owned a 5200 and it was a pretty decent console).

2600 also stayed in mainline toy stores for quite some time even on into mid to late NES glory days.  Toys R Us and Kay Bee had inventory of 2600 consoles and cartridges for quite some time.

Outside of the US I don't know.   All I know is that some UK company bought out full rights to Colecovision and was making it, clones, maybe even clones of 2600 I'm not sure.  I forgot the name of that company, Telegames I think it was if my memory serves right.

But US is the big driver in the gaming market, some argue Japan is as well.  Europe and Australia get the short end of the stick and bare minimum to bargains.  I'm not sure how popular these US consoles were in Japan.  NES did great there, MKIII probably did ok, not sure tho.  As of the past 10 years or something the Japanese seem to not like American consoles as much as their own mainland staple but everyone knows that most of the great video games are made in Canada and the United States.  It's funny how people think Japan makes all of the best stuff when they only develop a small fraction of it compared to North America.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on December 12, 2013, 07:12 AM
  It's funny how people think Japan makes all of the best stuff when they only develop a small fraction of it compared to North America.
I wouldnt say that. back then I would, but these days most things that come out of the US are genaric playing army game or sports.

the 5200 from what I have herd isnt capable of playing 2600 games

The 7800 is (I have a weird fondness for it)

Telegames did bung out the odd 2600 game and in the earily 2000s they put Jaguars back on the game shelfs (back stock?) much to the surprise of the likes of me.

Annnnnnnnnyway

JAGUAR EVERDRIVE!!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: nuu on December 12, 2013, 05:26 PM
In the '80s and '90s Japan made most of the games cause of the video game crash in USA. The last ten years however America has made a comeback and are making at least as much games as before and yes USA and Japan is the two most important markets for developers. Japanese made games however usually sells better in Japan, and American games sell better in USA. I think Japanese games is still doing good in the world though, with some genre exceptions. But they are not dominant anymore like they were in the NES era.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: 8bitCelebi on January 04, 2014, 12:00 PM
I think Krikzz should make a GBA everdrive after the GBC one. I would like it to have SDHC support unlike the EZ Flash IV
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on January 04, 2014, 03:27 PM
a EverPocket Drive could be excelent. I want a NeoGeo POcket colour
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: RGB_Gamer on January 04, 2014, 07:12 PM
I would like Jaguar ED as well. NGPC would be nice, since others are rare and don't let you hold a bunch of games at once.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Rave on February 14, 2014, 05:38 PM
I would also like to see a JagED as well, as all the other flash carts have been vapourware, but Krikzz has the skills to make it happen. :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: copyman on February 14, 2014, 08:58 PM
My vote is Atari 2600.
Ive got a modded Sega Saturn and was cheaper then what a Everdrive would be so I doubt that would ever happen. Not ever sure how you would do a Everdrive for that system anyways unless you use the memory port.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: wilykat on February 15, 2014, 03:02 AM
Atari 2600 already have Harmony cart.  Plays around 99% of all games. The remaining 1% are the odd games with extra chip like Pitfall II or other extra part that is obscure and not worth supporting.

Many people seems to want Jaguar cart but honestly how many people actually owns Jaguar and plays it regularly?  Not many.  :-\ I'd like one though.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: ApolloBoy on February 15, 2014, 06:27 AM
The remaining 1% are the odd games with extra chip like Pitfall II or other extra part that is obscure and not worth supporting.
Actually Pitfall II works perfectly fine on the Harmony, it's only games that exceed 32K in size that don't work. The creator of the Harmony's actually working on an upgraded Harmony that should be compatible with everything.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: snstay on February 15, 2014, 02:58 PM
Yeah ataris already done with the harmony. with the new version comming out you cant get any better than 100% compatibility.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 15, 2014, 04:22 PM
The remaining 1% are the odd games with extra chip like Pitfall II or other extra part that is obscure and not worth supporting.
Actually Pitfall II works perfectly fine on the Harmony, it's only games that exceed 32K in size that don't work. The creator of the Harmony's actually working on an upgraded Harmony that should be compatible with everything.
Is that set in stone?

I nearly got one the other day, but decided to get some PC Engine controllers instead
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 16, 2014, 01:13 PM
im sure everyone knows what my preffered everdrive would be :)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Drakon on February 17, 2014, 03:01 PM
im sure everyone knows what my preffered everdrive would be :)

Methinks you should change your username into it, that would be like free advertising.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 18, 2014, 02:55 PM
im sure everyone knows what my preffered everdrive would be :)

Methinks you should change your username into it, that would be like free advertising.
not a bad idea lol
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 18, 2014, 06:55 PM
im sure everyone knows what my preffered everdrive would be :)

Methinks you should change your username into it, that would be like free advertising.
not a bad idea lol

jag2ed would work :P
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 19, 2014, 06:01 AM
im sure everyone knows what my preffered everdrive would be :)

Methinks you should change your username into it, that would be like free advertising.
not a bad idea lol

jag2ed would work :P
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2554/4137274551_1d12ab907d_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Chilly Willy on February 20, 2014, 02:18 AM
What's wrong with JED? ;) :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on February 21, 2014, 03:22 PM
dvd2vcd check this

http://3do-renovation.ru/USB_Host_for_FZ10.htm

(http://3do-renovation.ru/pict/P1011690_2.jpg)
(http://3do-renovation.ru/pict/3DO_ISO_Loader_.jpg)

Now you need one for Jaguar CD  ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 05:47 PM
No mention of price........
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: lastcallhall on February 21, 2014, 05:48 PM
200.00 for one, bulk orders go down from there if ordering from the creator. A few people on Assember tried to get a group order together, but it fell through (sadly).
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 06:13 PM
By how much?

If the price is right I could get a group order going across a few sites, currently in the planing stages on doing one
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: lastcallhall on February 21, 2014, 06:24 PM
Here's the original quote from the Assembler thread:

Quote
Is anybody interested in these? I'd like to get one, but 200 bucks is a pretty steep price. He'll do group buys which drop the price quite a bit.

2 units = 162 dollars
3 units = 142 dollars
5 units = 133 dollars
10+ units = 112 dollars.

Just wondering if there was anybody like me that wanted one but isn't willing to spend 200 bones.

The problem was that there was no other contact path to the creator other than an email, so a few people just said screw it and ordered the 200.00 version from StoneAgeGamer instead.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 21, 2014, 07:10 PM
3DO host drive seems great, i have one on my ebay watch list as it happens ;)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 07:19 PM
About £70 in real money (hur hur)

I could probably get an order of 10+, but it wont be till my current ED group buy is done.

Lack of contact might be an issue
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on February 21, 2014, 07:25 PM
I could be interested if someone start a 10+ order.
You can count me in !
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 07:48 PM
It might not be till June/July as my current group buy is properly starting in late March
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on February 21, 2014, 07:51 PM
No worry; it was just to let you know.
If you make a list, you can still write me in.
And it's better for me waiting for June/july since i'm already in some other orders for now :D
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 07:58 PM
No worry; it was just to let you know.
If you make a list, you can still write me in.
And it's better for me waiting for June/july since i'm already in some other orders for now :D

Yeah group buys can make it look like im being dodgy with payments, last one I had about $3000 in my PP, good job im honest

Edit - cant see any contact details on his site, its like he dont want to sell them
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: MockyLock on February 21, 2014, 08:06 PM
And it's even harder (at least for me) as it's in russian.
There is an ICQ number at the bottom, maybe it's the way to contact him. Not the easiest.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 08:24 PM
Enthusiasmdisappears.bmp

Its not that hes Russian (google translate kinda works) its the lack of contact details and sales page
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: TeamShake on February 21, 2014, 08:30 PM
Enthusiasmdisappears.bmp

Its not that hes Russian (google translate kinda works) its the lack of contact details and sales page
I was in on the group buy on assembler till it fell apart.  here is the thread that has some more info:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?27794-IDE-adapter-for-3DO-FZ-10/page5
there was a member over there that speaks russian that was going to help out with contacting the developer.

There is also some info on stone age gamer about it:
http://www.stoneagegamer.com/3do-usb-adapter-panasonic-fz-10.html
Looks like they ordered some more from him and are waiting on them to arrive
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 08:41 PM
Ta muchly

With a bit of help I could definately get the 10+
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 21, 2014, 09:06 PM
i really want one of these aswell guys. i also got put off by the ordering situation.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: lastcallhall on February 21, 2014, 09:11 PM
Yeah, I was in for the 10+ order on the Assembler forum, but it looks like we have enough interest here to make it happen. I'm cool with waiting until the summer, as a lot of my funds are tied up in other projects at the moment. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 21, 2014, 09:15 PM
Ill keep you lot in touch, if push comes to shove ill act as a third party on here and pass out details in a separate thread
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on February 22, 2014, 12:22 PM
Enthusiasmdisappears.bmp

Its not that hes Russian (google translate kinda works) its the lack of contact details and sales page
I was in on the group buy on assembler till it fell apart.  here is the thread that has some more info:
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?27794-IDE-adapter-for-3DO-FZ-10/page5
there was a member over there that speaks russian that was going to help out with contacting the developer.

There is also some info on stone age gamer about it:
http://www.stoneagegamer.com/3do-usb-adapter-panasonic-fz-10.html
Looks like they ordered some more from him and are waiting on them to arrive

Hi.  I got one installed into my FZ-1 from Stone Age Gamer.  It's nice, though sadly the menu is white on blue, not green on black like shown there, and I'm not really sure if there's on option to change it.  Looks nicer with the green on black IMO.  Have only really played around with it for less than an hour at this point, it's been a busy week at work since I got it back from SAG.

SAG doesn't have any real instructions for it, though they'll do the install for you for a fee (I barely know not to touch the hot end of a soldering iron, so I was doing that).  They gave me Mnemo's ICQ number and his email when I had a question -- he DID respond to the email after a couple days, short reply but did answer the question I posed to him.  The email is the same one that's on that site.  Google Translate works well enough for his website, though he did respond to the email in English.  If you need another translator, I'm decent internet friends with a Russian girl who does English translation for a living so she can probably help out.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 22, 2014, 03:01 PM
as much as i want one of these devices though i'm wondering how 3do game compatibility is?
 i'm hoping that compatibility would be 100% or otherwise i may stick to my setup the way it is as my 3do plays everything. if all games work with this device then i would get one installed (faster loading, no laser to wear out etc).
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on February 22, 2014, 05:10 PM
Being that it's not emulation, it's just mounting the disc image in a different way, I have to imagine it's 100%?  But I've only tested 2 games on it (a pinball game because it was the smallest one I could find and I just wanted proof of concept, and lucienne's quest because lucienne's quest) so far... and honestly I doubt I have the desire to look through all 300something games to test it.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 22, 2014, 06:06 PM
The "Supports up to 2tb drives" thing did make me laugh


theres probably 100gb of games/multimedia for it and probably 10gb worth of things worth actually giving a toss about.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 22, 2014, 07:44 PM
yeah 2tb support would be handy for a ps1 device of this nature. shame the psio guys are going down the sd card route only and dropping large HD option. still i guess it's no big hassle to copy games back and forth from HD to sd card as and when needed.
 the reason i was thinking about the 3do game compatibility is if some games look for specific timing which would only work correctly from the cd drive. what got me thinking was i remember reading an article on why some ps2 games don't work from the ps2hd and the timing reason was mentioned.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 22, 2014, 07:58 PM
yeah 2tb support would be handy for a ps1 device of this nature. shame the psio guys are going down the sd card route only and dropping large HD option. still i guess it's no big hassle to copy games back and forth from HD to sd card as and when needed.
 the reason i was thinking about the 3do game compatibility is if some games look for specific timing which would only work correctly from the cd drive. what got me thinking was i remember reading an article on why some ps2 games don't work from the ps2hd and the timing reason was mentioned.
It would be a hassle for me,
At my games nights (TNOG.ORG) I like to have everything in one

But with a few 64GB cards I could get all the games worth playing and a few surprises
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 23, 2014, 02:40 AM
i imagine that sd cards are going to keep getting bigger aswell and maybe with firmware updates larger future sizes will be supported. if someone would have told me years ago that we could have 64gb micro sd cards it would have sounded a little far fetched i guess.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: copyman on February 23, 2014, 06:47 AM
Had no idea Atari 2600 has a flashcart! Thanks for letting me know. Might get one someday.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 23, 2014, 10:42 AM
i imagine that sd cards are going to keep getting bigger aswell and maybe with firmware updates larger future sizes will be supported. if someone would have told me years ago that we could have 64gb micro sd cards it would have sounded a little far fetched i guess.

I have been around for quite a few years

I have seen 512mb memory cards go from £20 to 20 for £5
16gb go from £60 to about £5 and now I kinda sneer at that size
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: FriendofSonic on February 23, 2014, 08:51 PM
I'd love to get in on the bulk order with you guys.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: justinwebb on February 24, 2014, 03:59 PM
I know krikzz doesnt do any disc drive systems but this dreamcast GDROM is pretty cool
http://dknute.livejournal.com/42609.html
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 24, 2014, 05:11 PM
Bloody hell I forgot about that one, the Dreamcast SD card thingys are not very useful (from what ive herd) but a full drive replacement would help no end.

Providing I can play ISos of games I own that is.

Just read the post, he aint making them to sell
WHY CANT WE HAVE NICE THINGS!!??[/size]
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 24, 2014, 06:04 PM
nice to see dreamcast gettin some love, also 3do but would be better if it was more widely available tho shame really because of this it probably wont do well at all :( playstation is something im not interested in at the moment as i have a test debug ps2 anyway which covers both ps1 + 2 titles, im still waiting for a jaguar solution more than anything, the games are getting really more expensive and harder to find now, i have found loads of info about jaguar cart pcb layout etc the info is out there its not hard to find and i really cant believe it hasnt been done by krikzz yet, he obviously seems to be more sega and ninty focused.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on February 24, 2014, 06:09 PM
the Dreamcast SD card thingys are not very useful (from what ive herd)
you heard right lol i have one and not very good, chinese quality, and only run sdiso, very limited indeed, fmv framerate is choppy and horrid too.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on February 24, 2014, 06:16 PM
Im always on the look out on ways to avoid having carts/disc laying about at my games nights.

as long as the things aren't bloody expensive, if the Dreamcast SD card thingy could be used as a save device id have one.

Got a massive memory card for PS2 (all arcade games saved on it, theres a lot)
if only there was one for PS1 that didnt have me messing about with buttons
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: justinwebb on February 25, 2014, 02:57 AM
Bloody hell I forgot about that one, the Dreamcast SD card thingys are not very useful (from what ive herd) but a full drive replacement would help no end.

Providing I can play ISos of games I own that is.

Just read the post, he aint making them to sell
WHY CANT WE HAVE NICE THINGS!!??[/size]
This is a whole drive replacement and runs games perfectly.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: KalessinDB on February 26, 2014, 01:22 PM
Good god the DC replacement isn't dead in the water?  That's amazing, hadn't heard anything about it in years...
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: butfluffy on February 26, 2014, 05:21 PM
damn i want a one of these for the dc, the 3do a psio and the upcomming gb/gbc everdrive, this hobby is going to keep getting more and more expensive lol (but worth it).
 i still aint got the psvita i want with 64gb memory card. then there are others i want to get in time nintendo 3ds, ps4, xboxone and even the wii-u. it's gonna end up worthwhile me paying the bedroom tax for my spare room just to store all these systems lol.
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: magnus87 on March 06, 2014, 05:17 PM
a C64 Everdrive could be a great for Commodore fans  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlrvMxRPQeg

(http://i.imgur.com/MiZWABx.jpg)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 07, 2014, 12:30 AM
that commodore cart is fantastic!
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: Retro-Nerd on March 11, 2014, 09:27 PM
There is already a nice Flashcart for the C64. The EasyFlash and EasyFlash 3 carts. You can bundle e.g. PRG files into 1 MB compilations and flash it. Multi-part games though has to be patched for the cartridge format. There are nice EF releases for Maniac Mansion, Zak McKracken, a Epyx Games collection, Pirates! etc. Also supported are the old 8/16 KB carts, Ultimax and Ocean Type 1 carts. Nearly no loading times, it's great :)

http://skoe.de/easyflash/doku.php?id=start




 
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: dvd2vcd on March 12, 2014, 01:30 PM
@Relikk

More products, more chances to get one

That point is justified when there are genuine improvements to be made on existing solutions. In this case, there simply aren't enough reasons to produce something that can actually improve or surpass the 1541 Ultimate.
agreed, a krikkz jaguar solution is a perfect example, it would deffo improve over the jagCF and skunkboard also krikkz products are available worldwide, you just cannot find/get a jag flashcart anywhere at the moment, krikkz can really dominate this hands down.

i dont know if ppl realise this but the skunkboard is open source including the PCB layout :)
http://www.harmlesslion.com/cgi-bin/showprog.cgi?search=skunkboard (http://www.harmlesslion.com/cgi-bin/showprog.cgi?search=skunkboard)
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: DBloke on March 12, 2014, 06:26 PM
The one game thing puts me off
Title: Re: Upcomming Everdrives?
Post by: goombakid on March 13, 2014, 04:53 AM
This thread was going all over the place. Feel free to start a new one. But please, keep it civil (read: Keep trolling/bickering to a minimum).