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Title: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 29, 2013, 09:19 PM
krikzz can you remove the smite button please, alot of users are leaving negative rep and i dont know why, maybe they are jelous of my console/everdrive collection  ::) the only button needed is applaud if you dont like something then at least you cant hijack a persons rep points by leaving negative all the while, i have alot of positive points but its overshadowed by negative points, there are some very very jelous sad ppl on here  >:(
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Relikk on April 29, 2013, 11:47 PM
Grow up.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 12:05 AM
Grow up.
see what i mean, your typical thread hijacker who leaves neg rep...
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Kerr Avon on April 30, 2013, 01:33 AM
Is there a way to see who left you bad points? I've never tried to give bad points to anyone, so I don't know how it works, but I thought you'd have to give a reason, and then the reason and your (user) name would be stored along with the point. Otherwise surely the system is open to abuse.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on April 30, 2013, 01:53 AM
i've never paid attention to this function tbh. dvd2vcd why are you worried about this? what happens bad if you get too many - points anyway? lol. this forum ain't a popularity contest or anything so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Troyus on April 30, 2013, 02:23 AM
I logged on today and I have my first 2 neg rep. No idea why.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Drakon on April 30, 2013, 02:44 AM
I love the smite button.  I want people to know I'm hated.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on April 30, 2013, 03:35 AM
@ Drakon - neg rep like a badge of honor. nice one lol.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: goombakid on April 30, 2013, 04:50 AM



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Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Chilly Willy on April 30, 2013, 04:54 AM
I've only hit smite twice, and both were on posts that were personal attacks against someone who didn't deserve it. There are a bunch of people who feel little about smiting others, but I think what happened to dvd2vcd shows it can be abused... I don't see how he got almost 100 smites overnight without someone seriously abusing the smite button. There needs to be more restrictions on it at least... make sure no one from the same IP is hitting it more than once per post, and also make a minimum time between smites to the same person per user. I'm certain that one user probably hunted down 100 posts made by dvd2vcd and smited them all as fast as he could find them in an effort to drive dvd2vcd's karma negative.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: goombakid on April 30, 2013, 05:13 AM
I think it should just be eliminated...but that's just me. Makes no sense to have it.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 05:40 PM
wow...another 9 neg reps since i started this thread lol i think il call them war wounds  8)
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on April 30, 2013, 09:01 PM
i got another one since last night aswell lol. reminds me of bruce almighty "smite me almighty smiter" lol
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on April 30, 2013, 09:08 PM
i got another one since last night aswell lol. reminds me of bruce almighty "smite me almighty smiter" lol
haha ya gotta laff im wondering whos neggin me tho...111 points now  ???

im convinced we have a "serial smiter" amongst us on the forum  :o
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on April 30, 2013, 09:45 PM
a member with a god complex? whoever it is should go and play some black and white and cool off lol.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Drakon on April 30, 2013, 11:09 PM
I honestly didn't notice it until you started this thread.  Now that I've noticed it, it doesn't bother me.  Popularity on a small support forum is like being the king of pakistan.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 01, 2013, 02:22 AM
You know what might be a good substitute? Post the number of "applauds" vs the total number of posts. Someone with 3 applauds and 74 posts would clearly have more to say than someone with 3 applauds and 740 posts.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: reprep on May 01, 2013, 11:22 AM
i really like the smite button. i try to find which post caused this and who gave this etc. also i should confess i enjoy smiting posts. not that i did a lot, but i enjoyed the process.

also for a country with over 180 million population, king of Pakistan is not a nice title. i am not from Pakistan, but i really don't like people who think world only consists of the Usa.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: nuu on May 01, 2013, 01:28 PM
Yeah Drakon you should apologise to the people of Pakistan!

Anyway back to topic, if bad rep really bothers you, you should just try to not stick out too much. I got mine when I stated my opinion once.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Gh0st on May 02, 2013, 02:10 AM
Wow, looks like Krik actually removed the button.

This is honestly a bit shameful. Yes, there are people that will abuse the ability to smite (But also applaud) other users, but taking it away completely does not solve the problem.

Look at the following scenario.

User A is nice, but doesn't post much. He's gotten on people's bad sides before, but it wasn't from a personal attack or anything. Let's say his karma is +10/-2. Been a member for 4 months, by the way.
User B is a dick. He constantly bashes other users, and is constantly going on and on about how Krik should make something that he wants, bashing anything he doesn't like, etc. Very rarely constructive, but does occasionally post good content. His karma is +20/-200. Member for 5 months

Now, a new user can look at the two user's karmas, and with ease can discern that User A is probably a nicer/better person than B.

However, let's look back at the scenario without smiting.

User A would have 10 karma. User B would have 20.

A new user would mistakenly think that User B is a better person than A.

My Proposal? Just remove the whole system, or keep the smite/applaud system. Removing only the smiting option almost turns the forum into a totalitarian state. What only removing the smite option says is this:
"You can either like what I say, or be impartial to it. You can't not like what I say" (Sorry for the double negative, I couldn't think of another wording).

Now, with regards to the original intent of this thread, yes, I understand dvd's concern. However, if you're literally being smited to the stars, you may want to look back on yourself and what you've said. Remember, not everything is everyone else's fault. There will be people that disagree with what you say, but simply taking away their voice is not the solution to the problem. Listen to what they say, and you may find that they have a legitimate concern.

That is all. Have a nice day, everyone.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Redifer on May 02, 2013, 03:12 AM
Removing it is shameful? I don't see how. Most forums have nothing of the sort and they function just fine. It's just something that Simple Machines Forums happens to have.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Gh0st on May 02, 2013, 04:13 AM
Removing it is shameful? I don't see how. Most forums have nothing of the sort and they function just fine. It's just something that Simple Machines Forums happens to have.
Removing the smite function but not the applaud function is. If he would have removed both, I would have had no qualms.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 02, 2013, 05:36 AM
thank you krikzz :) +1 justice prevails :) at the end of the day i was being smited for being a jaguar fan, yet i own loads of consoles and everdrives lol
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 02, 2013, 08:08 AM
Look at the following scenario.

User A is nice, but doesn't post much. He's gotten on people's bad sides before, but it wasn't from a personal attack or anything. Let's say his karma is +10/-2. Been a member for 4 months, by the way.
User B is a dick. He constantly bashes other users, and is constantly going on and on about how Krik should make something that he wants, bashing anything he doesn't like, etc. Very rarely constructive, but does occasionally post good content. His karma is +20/-200. Member for 5 months

Now, a new user can look at the two user's karmas, and with ease can discern that User A is probably a nicer/better person than B.

However, let's look back at the scenario without smiting.

User A would have 10 karma. User B would have 20.

A new user would mistakenly think that User B is a better person than A.

It's not a matter of nicer/better, it's about providing useful info. Maybe User B is a dick, but he provides more useful info. If you think his being a dick outweighs the info, put him on ignore.

Yes, there may be better systems, but this change is for the better. Maybe something else can work better... so be sure to make suggestions. The smite button is too easy to abuse and had to go. If you can come up with a better smite, make a proposal and maybe it will be adopted.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: deksar on May 02, 2013, 11:22 AM
Popularity on a small support forum is like being the king of pakistan.
One of the most horrible example I've ever read in a heck of a long time! Terrible logic, bro.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: KRIKzz on May 02, 2013, 12:18 PM
Popularity on a small support forum is like being the king of pakistan.
One of the most horrible example I've ever read in a heck of a long time! Terrible logic, bro.
But sound funny (:
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Grambo on May 02, 2013, 04:26 PM
Popularity on a small support forum is like being the king of pakistan.
Pakistan's population is pretty high. I would argue being the King of Pakistan is more like popularity on a rather large forum that's full of sand.


also for a country with over 180 million population, king of Pakistan is not a nice title. i am not from Pakistan, but i really don't like people who think world only consists of the Usa.
Lol, yeah Drakon. Stop being so American  ;)
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on May 02, 2013, 04:28 PM
i thought it was a little funny aswell tbh.  unfortunatly here in the uk most harmless jokes have become considered offensive and political correctness has gone out of control these days. cant say anything anymore without being branded a racist. the sad thing is that this protection don't apply to everyone here.
 my wife is romanian and at the moment there is a lot of romanian, bulgarian, polish hating going on and nothing at all done about it and is allowed to be considered funny. it's like as if people can say whatever they want about eastern europeans but you cant say nothing not even an harmless joke about asians or blacks without the racist card being played. shame everyone just cant get along. a jokes a joke. i'm welsh and where i come from we are all branded sheep shaggers lol. i think it's funny.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: MockyLock on May 02, 2013, 09:12 PM
I'm french, meaning obviously i feed myself with frogs, nails, bread and wine :)
And obviously i stink...

Well, i think that the "pakistan joke" was a bit tactless, but there was for sure no offense.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on May 02, 2013, 09:37 PM
yeah your right the french seem to get a bashing in the uk aswell sadly.
 i spent 11 months in romania all in all around transylvania and moldova and all the time i spent there the people were very friendly towards me a welsh guy. i find it a little embarrassing sometimes when the wife has to tolerate the complete opposite in the uk. still you cant educate fools i guess. i'm not on about jokes though i love a good joke and we take it well but some things go beyond a joke. i'm not a fan of that borat movie for instance. if that movie was made about another race they would have played hell imo. 
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: nuu on May 03, 2013, 02:44 AM
Even if it's funny some jokes crosses the line. Laughing at someone's nation is one of those and isn't harmless at all. If you have ever experienced someone badmouthing your nation even as a joke you'll understand.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Chilly Willy on May 04, 2013, 01:20 AM
I used to love The Bigot Family on the Bizarre TV series. I don't see a problem with racial jokes as long as you don't believe them AND aren't using them to attack a person or group. If you're telling them just to be hurtful, I draw the line there.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: JimmyMz on May 04, 2013, 07:07 PM
What is the logic behind removing the "smite" option, but keeping a negative karma count krikzz?
I don't personally care if smiting is removed, but does it not make more sense to remove the fact that it ever existed? Maybe my thinking is flawed, but I could strongly debate my point. I have smited and have been smited, but I smited posts that screamed "I'm an idiot" or "I'm ignorant" or my favorite "I'm an expert and know everything, but I have very little knowledge to back up my strong statements....and Mommy didn't hold me enough as a child." There is definitely a place in this world for the almighty smite button. I'm going to make one and put it next to my computer (like in the Staples commercials, if you live in the US, you know what I mean) so as to help with the inevitable withdrawals I'm sure to suffer when someone's post fits the criteria mentioned above.  :)
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on May 04, 2013, 07:15 PM
i have never felt the urge to smite someone on a forum thus the reason i never noticed it before this thread. if someone posts something annoying i'm like what the hell and think nothing more of it. i agree though that keeping the applaud/smite count and removing the buttons is a little pointless. i guess krikzz wernt taking it that seriously and removed the option due to the possibility of it getting a little out of hand lol.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 04, 2013, 07:35 PM
a little out of hand? see my smites lol i didnt deserve that many  ???
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Troyus on May 04, 2013, 09:34 PM
Dont growl at the guy too much. He by NO means needs to keep this forum open at all. We are very lucky he does and responds to us.
Dont abuse the priveledge!
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: butfluffy on May 04, 2013, 10:39 PM
i don't think anyone is growling at him in the least. for the most part krikzz gets utmost respect from members here from what i read anyway. also it's appreciated that he took the time to pay attention to the fact a user was being singled out on this forum and the smite button was certainly being abused. to my knowledge dvd2vcd's only crime here has been showing enthusiasm towards a possible future jaguar everdrive project, ok i guess it may have pissed a few users off but the smite button was in overdrive imo .
from my experience here dvd2vcd seems like a good guy and he seems to be a keen everdrive enthusiast. hopefully krikzz read his request to remove the smite button due to the overkill abuse and decided to remove the function in the interest of fairness not because anyone here is on his back and demanding anything.
 i think what we were saying earlier is just that maybe it's better to wipe the slate clean with previous applaud/smites which are still on view and dvd2vcd has -116 i believe, which is silly.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 04, 2013, 11:23 PM
i hold my hands up for hoping for a jagED its pretty obvious lol in a nut shell i love all everdrive products, its consistant updates is awesome, after market help is quality from krikzz and all you guys.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Drakon on May 10, 2013, 12:29 AM
Yeah Drakon you should apologise to the people of Pakistan!

Anyway back to topic, if bad rep really bothers you, you should just try to not stick out too much. I got mine when I stated my opinion once.

Okay that was rude and I apologize, I've met nice pakistani people.  Anyway don't let it bother you, if you do they're just going to do it more.  I was kinda hoping my comment would get me lots of juicy smites.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: nuu on May 13, 2013, 05:08 PM
Heh, I think you really are a good guy.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: reprep on May 13, 2013, 05:11 PM
yup, i too think drakon is a good guy. he always informed me about mods, hacks etc. when i PMed him.
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 13, 2013, 05:47 PM
yh same here i like drakon i like lookin at his mods n hacks  ;D they r cool
Title: Re: krikzz can you remove the smite button please
Post by: Drakon on May 15, 2013, 06:02 AM
Heh, I think you really are a good guy.

yup, i too think drakon is a good guy. he always informed me about mods, hacks etc. when i PMed him.

yh same here i like drakon i like lookin at his mods n hacks  ;D they r cool

*insert blushing smiley that doesn't exist*