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Title: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 29, 2019, 03:30 AM
I recently purchased and everdrive from amazon and I got a pack of roms that I found on reddit.It is the first link in google if you type Everdrive Collection Torrent.This particular collection is known as the no intro collection.As a result of this particular collection,I am using a cracked Kazooie instead of the original rom.I noticed that the top left corner of the screen is a little bit rounded.This does not happen with any other game.Can everdrive 3.0 run this game without using the cracked rom?What can I do to fix this graphical glitch?Thanks.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 29, 2019, 03:53 AM
If you are running ever drive 3.0. You should't need the cracked rom I think?

Have you tried downloading similar from from another no-intro set?
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 29, 2019, 05:20 AM
If you are running ever drive 3.0. You should't need the cracked rom I think?

Have you tried downloading similar from from another no-intro set?

No I have not.I am scared of trying a new banjo rom because I heard that it deletes your gamesave.Is this true?
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 29, 2019, 06:42 AM
Not on a 3.0 with the CIC chip as far as I know.

It will on a 2.5 which was the reason for the hack.

You can also find a hacked version available in a thread here as well if you want to test it.

Edit:
ALso seems 3.0 may auto patches the rom anyways? ALthough that can be disabled, and the CIC chip is to avoid the copy protection issue anyways.
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=6862.msg53361#msg53361
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 29, 2019, 05:51 PM
Not on a 3.0 with the CIC chip as far as I know.

It will on a 2.5 which was the reason for the hack.

You can also find a hacked version available in a thread here as well if you want to test it.

Edit:
ALso seems 3.0 may auto patches the rom anyways? ALthough that can be disabled, and the CIC chip is to avoid the copy protection issue anyways.
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=6862.msg53361#msg53361

How do I know if I have ultra-cic 2?I bought my everdrive a week ago from amazon.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 29, 2019, 07:00 PM
It’s standard I think. Look at the spec listings on Krikzz site.

Even newer 2.5s have it now apparently.

https://www.amazon.com/EverDrive-64-v2-5-Nintendo/dp/B079X2HK7W/ref=asc_df_B079X2HK7W/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312201696123&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6521634841806151150&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1024290&hvtargid=pla-574169729412&psc=1
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 29, 2019, 08:02 PM
It’s standard I think. Look at the spec listings on Krikzz site.

Even newer 2.5s have it now apparently.

https://www.amazon.com/EverDrive-64-v2-5-Nintendo/dp/B079X2HK7W/ref=asc_df_B079X2HK7W/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312201696123&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6521634841806151150&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1024290&hvtargid=pla-574169729412&psc=1

I tried the standard rom called "Banjo-Kazooie (U) [!].z64" and I still see the left corner off my screen cut off a bit.I don't have this problem with any other rom and I can't test this since I do not own the original game.Does anyone here know a fix?
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 29, 2019, 10:35 PM
[!] is not a no-intro set as far as I know... I'm not sure what dump, but that symbol usually means its not an accurate dump I think....
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 29, 2019, 11:13 PM
I have tried 3 separate roms.Which one do you recommend?This issue does not occur in any other game and I don't see it happening in project 64.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 29, 2019, 11:24 PM
I can't tell you where to find a "no-intro' set... they are clean/perfect dumps. I can't guarantee it will fix the problem, but it would be best place to start, for trouble shooting.


I wish I could give you more specific advice (links), but I can't. Best I can say is google something like "Banjo-Kazooie (USA) (No Intro - Nintendo 64)" and make sure pages that come up specify no-intro.... The file name is usually just "Banjo-Kazooie (USA).zip"
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 12:09 AM
I can't tell you where to find a "no-intro' set... they are clean/perfect dumps. I can't guarantee it will fix the problem, but it would be best place to start, for trouble shooting.


I wish I could give you more specific advice (links), but I can't. Best I can say is google something like "Banjo-Kazooie (USA) (No Intro - Nintendo 64)" and make sure pages that come up specify no-intro.... The file name is usually just "Banjo-Kazooie (USA).zip"

I tried one that has the exact file name you mentioned and I am having no luck fixing the issue.What does "No-Intro" mean?
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 30, 2019, 01:13 AM
http://www.no-intro.org/

It's an organization that verifies rom dumps. Making sure they have been correctly dumped.  Believe me if you see a site that offers the verified roms, it will say 'no-intro' under the subheading, or zip file, archive, or whatever you have pulled it from. If you don't see no-intro listed on the website its likely not a no-intro rom, and could be just anything.

Note one of the words I listed in my previous paragraph is a 'clue' it is a name of a certain website that has a full N64 no-intro """"archive"""". I may have repeated the website's name twice in this post even... ;)


THere is also a website that rhymes with 'tonic'...
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 02:24 AM
http://www.no-intro.org/

It's an organization that verifies rom dumps. Making sure they have been correctly dumped.  Believe me if you see a site that offers the verified roms, it will say 'no-intro' under the subheading, or zip file, archive, or whatever you have pulled it from. If you don't see no-intro listed on the website its likely not a no-intro rom, and could be just anything.

Note one of the words I listed in my previous paragraph is a 'clue' it is a name of a certain website that has a full N64 no-intro """"archive"""". I may have repeated the website's name twice in this post even... ;)


THere is also a website that rhymes with 'tonic'...

I downloaded the one from archive, and the one that rhymes with tonik. They both have the same glitch on the left upper corner of the screen.This is driving me crazy and I do not own the original Banjo to test this problem.I am wondering if the problem is with the everdrive 3.0. I tried on two tvs and they both have this problem.I have also tried two different Everdrive 3.0 and two different consoles.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 30, 2019, 03:18 AM
Can you put up screen shots, so I can see it, and test it myself? I haven't played through this particular game so I don't know exactly what I'm looking for... and its been years since I saw the original game on a console anyways. So I don't know if its an issue with the game or not...
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 03:53 AM
Can you put up screen shots, so I can see it, and test it myself? I haven't played through this particular game so I don't know exactly what I'm looking for... and its been years since I saw the original game on a console anyways. So I don't know if its an issue with the game or not...

I will try to get a good picture,I tried taking a few pictures of the CRT but due to the nature of the CRT I cannot get a picture that illustrates the issue.This guy on gamefaqs seems to have a similar issue https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/196694-banjo-kazooie/answers/448307-is-your-game-centered-on-the-screen-seriously-read-on (last comment). I may have to order a BK cart to try it out myself.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 30, 2019, 05:32 AM
Can you test it on a modern tv? Does it do the same thing?


I tried running roms on my crt and saw nothing out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 04:49 PM
Can you test it on a modern tv? Does it do the same thing?


I tried running roms on my crt and saw nothing out of the ordinary.

Here is a picture on an HDTV.Notice on the left corner how there are screen abnormalities.On the CRT it is a bit different,but it still has part of the corner chipped off.

https://imgur.com/zAv9HZv
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 30, 2019, 05:08 PM
Ahh, I see. I don't see it on my CRT tv possibly because of overscan settings. I don't know what's causing it. I'll check on my HDTV later.



Also notices that the distortion seems to occur on both the left and right sides of the image, and possibly through the image like horizontal bars. It's just more noticeable on the left in your image.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 06:11 PM
Ahh, I see. I don't see it on my CRT tv possibly because of overscan settings. I don't know what's causing it. I'll check on my HDTV later.



Also notices that the distortion seems to occur on both the left and right sides of the image, and possibly through the image like horizontal bars. It's just more noticeable on the left in your image.

I noticed it on the right too,just didn't mention it because it's not as easy to see and I wasn't sure if you could see it in the picture.On the CRT it has a similar issue as well.It only happens with this game so I am not really sure what is happening here.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: supersign on May 30, 2019, 06:14 PM
Looks like it's screen jitter caused by your cables. What N64 cable do you connect to the CRT? Have you tried different cables?
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 07:01 PM
Looks like it's screen jitter caused by your cables. What N64 cable do you connect to the CRT? Have you tried different cables?

I use the default composite cables that came with the n64.I have tried two different cables and both have the same problem.It only happens with Banjo though,it doesn't happen with any other game I have tried.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 30, 2019, 07:57 PM
I switched to higher quality s-video cables recommended from a gaming site and it improved a lot of visuals on the tv. I will test the game on original components and see I notice anything you describe.

https://www.retrorgb.com/n64.html
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 30, 2019, 11:55 PM
I switched to higher quality s-video cables recommended from a gaming site and it improved a lot of visuals on the tv. I will test the game on original components and see I notice anything you describe.

https://www.retrorgb.com/n64.html

Let me know if you see the issue with normal cables.Right now I am considering if I should buy the original BK game for testing.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 31, 2019, 01:02 AM
I had zero distortion with the game on my HDTV... Let me list the name of the roms I tested...

Banjo-Kazooie (USA) (Rev A).n64 (I got this one from an aforementioned 'archive'...)

Banjo-Kazooie (U) (V1.1).z64 (not sure where I got this one, might not be a 'no-intro', might be copy protection hacked version... not sure.)
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 31, 2019, 02:57 AM
I had zero distortion with the game on my HDTV... Let me list the name of the roms I tested...

Banjo-Kazooie (USA) (Rev A).n64 (I got this one from an aforementioned 'archive'...)

Banjo-Kazooie (U) (V1.1).z64 (not sure where I got this one, might not be a 'no-intro', might be copy protection hacked version... not sure.)

I tried Rev A and I still have distortion.I ordered an S-video cable to see if it solves the problem.I find it weird that this happens on both the tv's i tried.I am on the verge of buying Banjo to see if the original has the problem as well.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 31, 2019, 03:46 AM
Ya, thing is I tried it with both cables on my CRT no problems. I tried it with original composite on the HDTV (it doesn't have Svideo)… I had no issues.

I would recommend testing a different N64, in case its something internal with the n64 as well....
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 31, 2019, 05:39 AM
Ya, thing is I tried it with both cables on my CRT no problems. I tried it with original composite on the HDTV (it doesn't have Svideo)… I had no issues.

I would recommend testing a different N64, in case its something internal with the n64 as well....
I tried both n64's I have and they both have this problem.I also tried with my friends everdrive. Only thing I haven't tried is using the original banjo.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 31, 2019, 05:58 AM
Somehow I don't think the original banjo is going to fix this... I don't know what to say.... It seems to be rare... Maybe your two machines suffer the same weird alignment of stars....
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on May 31, 2019, 09:45 AM
Somehow I don't think the original banjo is going to fix this... I don't know what to say.... It seems to be rare... Maybe your two machines suffer the same weird alignment of stars....

Well I mostly want to know if my everdrive is defective.I am getting a cable in the mail tomorrow to test it with.If not I will have to shell the 25$ for banjo.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on May 31, 2019, 10:01 AM
THat's the issue though, I would think if your Everdrive was defective it should be glitching out on more than just this one game, and most likely all of them. It's a seriously freak issue, that could have a number of causes... I don't know what to tell you...
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on June 01, 2019, 02:57 AM
THat's the issue though, I would think if your Everdrive was defective it should be glitching out on more than just this one game, and most likely all of them. It's a seriously freak issue, that could have a number of causes... I don't know what to tell you...
I recieved the S video cable today and the problem persist unfortunately.I guess I will have to buy a copy of banjo kazooie.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on June 01, 2019, 03:18 AM
I will be shocked if the problem stops with the actual copy of banjo kazooie….
Note I think you put up example of someone who had the problem with an actual cartridge... So the problem is probably a problem in the game itself, if that's the case, but tied to maybe certain brands of tvs… Every tv is different...


I'm not sure there is anything wrong with your Everdrive, or there should be more problems like this in more games... Maybe you just haven't tried out a enough games to know for sure (if it is a ED problem)… BUt the odds that that same problem would 'exist' on some ED drives, and not all (I had no problems), and that you would encounter two Ever DRives with the problem (you and your friends), seems like it should be pretty rare.

We can discount the problem being with the roms, as very few people seem to be able to replicate the problems. I couldn't...

Could it be different models of N64? SNES went through several variants and changes throughout the life of the system... Maybe the N64 did as well? Minor changes to chips being used could change how they sound, interact with the system, visuals, etc... The odds that you and your friend ended up with similar models of N64 from the same era is more likely, since the changes would have been mass-produced. For what its worth my N64 was probably from  mid to late in the N64's life.

Yes, the N64 went through several motherboard revisions...
https://nintendo64.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Motherboard_Revision
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: planetsuzy on June 09, 2019, 10:54 AM
I bought a copy of Banjo Kazooie and the problem still persist. I don't know why more people haven't reported the problem. I guess in theory both my nintendo 64s could have a problem but I just feel like that is unlikely.
Title: Re: Banjo Kazooie Evedrive 3.0
Post by: Galron on June 09, 2019, 02:02 PM
I don't have the problem on my tv and or n64. Again it oculd be a difference in 'model'. Nintendo did various revisions of the system throughout the systems lifespan.

At least we can rule out there being a problem with your flashcart itself...