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Hi everyone,

This is the first time I'm posting over here. For the past few days, I have been watching YouTube videos about the EverDrive V7 and those creators HIGHLY recommending the newer EverDrive cartridge. The only concern that I have is: Virtual Pro Wrestling 2. I currently have the Ultra EverDrive V3 model & it's a custom shiny blue (the flake blue) but I remember I had to get my friend to help me out with downloading the English Translation Pack for Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 and moving it over to the EverDrive V3 with the ROM. Am I still able to download VPW 2 and move it on over to the EverDrive V7 cartridge, while also being able to download the English Translation Pack onto the cartridge as well?

I have owned this EverDrive V3 cartridge for over 2 years & since I have been hearing SO MUCH about the V7 cartridges, I thought I would be safer than sorry by upgrading to the more popular/newer/I THINK better model, as opposed to keeping the V3 one that I have. Usually the only games I play are: Virtual Pro Wrestling 2, WWF No Mercy, WcW vs. nWo Revenge, Smash Bros BUT I eventually want to get into Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2, the other WCW games I have not listed, and I really DO want to slowly but surely expand to my N64 collection in the future! In the event I don't, that's why I'm not sure there's a need to upgrade to V7 but that's solely up to me. I have not purchased the EverDrive V7 model, because I wanted to make sure VPW 2 is still compatible with the V7 WHILE ALSO still being able to download the English Translation Pack. That English Translation Pack is a big deal to me & I would not download this game, if I had to play in it's original PAL language since I cannot read Japanese.

Another thing too: Is there a ROM for Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 with the English translations already being planted into the ROM itself, without me having to download a separate translation pack? I'm afraid I'm going to run into A LOT of trouble trying to download the english translation pack & I'm afraid it's going to be hard. Anybody here that can provide the answers to my questions, I would appreciate it A DOZEN

P.S. I do apologize if my post is one of the dumbest posts out there; I have no high knowledge of these technical stuff, but I'm looking to upgrade a BIG WAY to my N64 collection!!! I'm not that much of a gaming nerd as well, although I wish I did at times  ;D

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 03:28 AM »
Hey there. Asking for ROMS is not, and should not, be allowed here.

Speaking from a v3 owner, I don't see the need to upgrade unless it broke.

The only real benefit to use the x7 if:

A) you have PAL & NTSC consoles and can't be bothered to flick the region switch. The x7 auto-detects the console's region.
B) you have the v2.0/2.5 and want to upgrade.
C) your v3 is not equipped with UltraCIC II and is only limited to one region.
D) your UltraCIC II V3 broke down/got destroyed.

The v3.0 with UltraCIC II can do what the x7 can, just that the parts for making v3.0 carts have been discontinued.

As for the English translation of VPW2, there's no difference whenever it's on v3 or x7. It'll play the same.

If you already have a clean Japanese VPW2 ROM, go to https://www.romhacking.net/patch/, place the rom in "rom file" then place the .rup file in "patch file" then click "Apply patch". This will give you the patched rom back. Then drag the patched ROM into the SD card.

I may add that the x7 OS is now compatible with v2.5 & V3 Everdrives so you're not really missing out. Also do check out jonesalmighty's fork of the 2.12 OS with extra improvements such as a 240p small text menu.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2020, 04:48 PM by supersign »

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 06:03 AM »
Thank you so much for all that you have said!!! I'm confused as to what the UltraCIC II is although I have heard of it from videos, and when you say stuff about the x7 OS being compatible with the V2.5 & V3 Everdrives/2.12 OS improvements and small text menu information, ALL of that does confuse me but PLEASE don't judge me for that? Again I'm not really knowledgeable about this type of stuff, but I'm really wanting to play my N64 again and start having fun with VPW2 mainly and getting to WWF No Mercy eventually.

I texted my friend recently & he actually advised me that IF I do get the new EverDrive that I want, by still having my current V3 EverDrive, he said I could just:

1) Move the entire file of VPW2 that has the English Translation Pack to my Laptop from my V3 EverDrive's SD-Card
2) Place my new SD-Card of the V7 IF I ever get one, to my Laptop
3) On my Laptop, that whole entire folder of VPW2 that has the English Translation Pack because my friend helped me get that around 2018, move that into my NEW V7 card that would obviously come with my eventual new EverDrive V7 if I ever decide to get that.

Would all of that work as well, this way I shouldn't and wouldn't have to download the ROM again & get the English Translation Pack from scratch? Let me know ASAP OTHERWISE, I do apologize and I did not mean to break any rules. Honest from the bottom of my heart that won't happen again & I thought with a forum like this, I could mention that because I know I called "Krikzz" Customer Service/E-mailed them and was told I couldn't be informed on that. Since I was suggested on here, I thought it would make sense to ask that BUT honest I don't mean any harm & I fully understand why it cannot be discussed.

I do feel better knowing the V3 is STILL AN AMAZING EVERDRIVE to keep & just because V7 is out and is the newest one, doesn't mean I should jump ship to that immediately! From what I have learned about the V3 EverDrive, it's pretty much a "Limited-Edition" product so it makes me cherish it more!!! I would LOVE to own an EverDrive product that has a new warranty though, in the event something drastically & surprisingly happened to my current EverDrive & once it breaks I cannot do anything about it, so that was why the V7 was also enticing to me (as Lame as it sounds LOL) but typically, I take GREAT CARE of my electronics so!!!

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 04:00 PM »
Thank you so much for all that you have said!!! I'm confused as to what the UltraCIC II is although I have heard of it from videos, and when you say stuff about the x7 OS being compatible with the V2.5 & V3 Everdrives/2.12 OS improvements and small text menu information, ALL of that does confuse me but PLEASE don't judge me for that? Again I'm not really knowledgeable about this type of stuff, but I'm really wanting to play my N64 again and start having fun with VPW2 mainly and getting to WWF No Mercy eventually.
Don't worry. In the meantime, try the new 3.05 on your V3 and see how that goes.

I texted my friend recently & he actually advised me that IF I do get the new EverDrive that I want, by still having my current V3 EverDrive, he said I could just:

1) Move the entire file of VPW2 that has the English Translation Pack to my Laptop from my V3 EverDrive's SD-Card
2) Place my new SD-Card of the V7 IF I ever get one, to my Laptop
3) On my Laptop, that whole entire folder of VPW2 that has the English Translation Pack because my friend helped me get that around 2018, move that into my NEW V7 card that would obviously come with my eventual new EverDrive V7 if I ever decide to get that.
I don't quite understand #3. You don't need to put the .RUP patch file in the SD card, the ROM needs to be patched on your laptop. The Everdrive V3 & x7 only supports IPS & APS on-the-fly patching, not RUP files. Unless you store patch files in the SD card for storage purposes, which I don't personally do but you do you.

Would all of that work as well, this way I shouldn't and wouldn't have to download the ROM again & get the English Translation Pack from scratch?
If you follow my instruction of patching, it won't overwrite the original ROM, the patched ROM will save as a new copy and the original ROM will stay intact.

I do apologize[...]
No worries! It's all good, man.

I do feel better knowing the V3 is STILL AN AMAZING EVERDRIVE to keep & just because V7 is out and is the newest one, doesn't mean I should jump ship to that immediately! From what I have learned about the V3 EverDrive, it's pretty much a "Limited-Edition" product so it makes me cherish it more!!! I would LOVE to own an EverDrive product that has a new warranty though, in the event something drastically & surprisingly happened to my current EverDrive & once it breaks I cannot do anything about it, so that was why the V7 was also enticing to me (as Lame as it sounds LOL) but typically, I take GREAT CARE of my electronics so!!!
Oh yeah, the V3 still holds up to this day.

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2020, 08:01 PM »
Unless some firmware upgrade adds some fancy feature that v3.0 can't do, I'm sticking with v3.

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2020, 07:54 AM »
Thank you so much for all that you have said!!! I'm confused as to what the UltraCIC II is although I have heard of it from videos, and when you say stuff about the x7 OS being compatible with the V2.5 & V3 Everdrives/2.12 OS improvements and small text menu information, ALL of that does confuse me but PLEASE don't judge me for that? Again I'm not really knowledgeable about this type of stuff, but I'm really wanting to play my N64 again and start having fun with VPW2 mainly and getting to WWF No Mercy eventually.
Don't worry. In the meantime, try the new 3.05 on your V3 and see how that goes.

I texted my friend recently & he actually advised me that IF I do get the new EverDrive that I want, by still having my current V3 EverDrive, he said I could just:

1) Move the entire file of VPW2 that has the English Translation Pack to my Laptop from my V3 EverDrive's SD-Card
2) Place my new SD-Card of the V7 IF I ever get one, to my Laptop
3) On my Laptop, that whole entire folder of VPW2 that has the English Translation Pack because my friend helped me get that around 2018, move that into my NEW V7 card that would obviously come with my eventual new EverDrive V7 if I ever decide to get that.
I don't quite understand #3. You don't need to put the .RUP patch file in the SD card, the ROM needs to be patched on your laptop. The Everdrive V3 & x7 only supports IPS & APS on-the-fly patching, not RUP files. Unless you store patch files in the SD card for storage purposes, which I don't personally do but you do you.

Would all of that work as well, this way I shouldn't and wouldn't have to download the ROM again & get the English Translation Pack from scratch?
If you follow my instruction of patching, it won't overwrite the original ROM, the patched ROM will save as a new copy and the original ROM will stay intact.

I do apologize[...]
No worries! It's all good, man.

I do feel better knowing the V3 is STILL AN AMAZING EVERDRIVE to keep & just because V7 is out and is the newest one, doesn't mean I should jump ship to that immediately! From what I have learned about the V3 EverDrive, it's pretty much a "Limited-Edition" product so it makes me cherish it more!!! I would LOVE to own an EverDrive product that has a new warranty though, in the event something drastically & surprisingly happened to my current EverDrive & once it breaks I cannot do anything about it, so that was why the V7 was also enticing to me (as Lame as it sounds LOL) but typically, I take GREAT CARE of my electronics so!!!
Oh yeah, the V3 still holds up to this day.
Sorry this message is late. When I get to having time to do this & I have concerns, I'm going to shoot you a message if that's okay! Thanks for all the insight you have provided me & hopefully I won't have any crazy issues with anything & etc. As I said before, happy to know I'm safe with the V3 & I don't need to upgrade to V7 fast.

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2020, 06:33 PM »
Hi, it has been a while! I also have Everdrive V3.0 and im surprised that there is a newer product and OS as well.
However whats the improvements of the OS? I havent got updated since last year...
Any changes to the Gameshark ?

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2020, 03:37 AM »
you have v3.0
you do not need upgrade to X7
as no new benfits

gameshark is limited due hardware
same with real gameshark
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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2020, 03:00 AM »
VPW2 English works on X7. I have an X7 and it is all I will probably "EVER" need. ha

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Re: VPW2: Upgrade to EverDrive V7 OR Stick With Ultra EverDrive V3?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2020, 09:48 PM »
you have v3.0
you do not need upgrade to X7
as no new benfits

gameshark is limited due hardware
same with real gameshark

Is it? I'm not well up on the hardware side of things, so I might well be wrong, but I thought that the only effective difference between the physical Gameshark, and the emulated Gameshark on the Everdrive 64 is that there is no physical button on the Everdrive that could serve as a substitute for the button that is on a real Gameshark. The only two other differences that I'm aware of are:

1. The Everdrive 64 currently won't allow as many different codes to be used at once as you can on a real Gameshark,

and

2. Different models of Gamesharks (such as the different version number of the Gamesharks, the Action Replay, the Xploder 64/Xplorer 64, and the Equaliser) have a variety of different software based functions, from a built in database of game cheats, to the ability to search/test/create your own new cheats, to even looking through the memory with a graphics viewer.

As far as I'm aware, everything from points one and two could be emulated on the Gameshark. And the physical button could be simulated by having the Gameshark emulation react to a given combination of buttons on the controller pad instead of the (non-existent) Gameshark button.