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Title: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Kaixe Rho on November 04, 2020, 05:43 AM
After having spent today, yesterday with my new GBP pulling my hair out about this, I decided I had to consult the experts.

Short Version: Game Boy Player perfectly plays real GBA cartridges but will crash when playing from the X5 in 2 minutes or less, sometimes as little as 4 seconds. Game frozen, lines across the screen, music screeching.

To elaborate: Running GBI (most recent version) through Swiss (release v0.5r927). In regards to GBI, the exact same things happen with each rom regardless of version (standard, speedrunning, high-fidelity). I have exclusively tested no-intro roms, unmodded, etc etc etc.

To try to fix the issue, I have tried the following:

The two micro SD cards I've tried to use are the Sandisk 1 GB Micro SD and Sandisk Ultra 128 GB Micro SD.

My Everdrive's rear says "Everdrive-GBA X5, Model 16, Rev.A, 30.05.2016. I bought it directly from the website.

I think this might be the most important info:
After remembering that there was a "Diagnostic" option, I tried it in and out of the GBP. In both of my GBAs and my DS, all results came back 'OK', SD RD speed = 6.2 MB/s, SD WR speed, 133.3 KB/s.

However, these are the results for the diagnostic being run on the game boy player:
Copy ram to file... OK
STB         test... OK
ROM0      test... Error: 10
ROM1      test... Error: 10
DISK       test... Error: D3
SRAM      test... Error: 1E
FLASH     test... Error: B4
EEPROM  test... Error: 0F
SD RD speed...   Error: DB
SD WR speed...  Error: F5
RTC date: 20FF/FF/FF
RTC time: 7F:FF:FF
RTC test...


Then it immediately drops into the "FPGA Reboot" screen, and stays there.

If anyone could help me, I would really appreciate it. If my ED is just defective, that sucks and I'm bummed but I'll survive, but if it's the GBP, then I have about 25 days to return it and try another one. And if it's the SD card (somehow?) I can buy another one.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Marteicos on November 06, 2020, 08:06 PM
This is a long shot, but did you tried pulling the cartridge a bit after inserting it completely?
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Kaixe Rho on November 07, 2020, 10:11 AM
I've gone back and checked - yeah, it doesn't quite work. I've jiggled it in and out, left and right, nothing.

I've actually gone and tried a few other things - notably, I wanted to take Swiss out of the equation, so I moved all three versions of GBI onto my memory card to boot independently. The only change I noticed was that, sometimes, ROM0 or ROM1 actually succeeds the diagnostic. Everything else still fails.

Anyway, because I forgot to mention: my everdrive software says it's OS version is 1.12, and its FPGA version is 1.02. not sure how relevant that is. I went ahead and ordered a new GBP, so we'll see, but who knows what the problem is.

The "I've tried everything and am at the end of my damn rope" edit:
I have tried:

I'm losing all hope here
I don't know what else there is to try
I've tried to find different releases of GBI, but past versions aren't available on Extrems' github, so it could be that, but the only thing left that makes sense is that my X5 is just trash and I'm the only unlucky idiot that got a defective everdrive and only found out after 3 years when it was too late to get a return. Maybe my 3 micro sd cards were all incompatible in exactly the same way.

The only light of hope was one time, where the diagnostic nearly succeeded for some reason, Error: 10 on both ROM0 and ROM1 but everything went through fine, and the games ran perfectly...but it was just one time, and I didn't do anything special, and trying to recreate it has wasted my entire night and getting nothing done at all. I'm out of ideas.

Edit 2:
Went out and wasted money on a new 32 gb micro sd, class 10, fastest one I could find.
The first time I plugged it in, I finally got a complete clean diagnostic. Hopeful, I tried one of three no-intro roms on there. Crashed within 1 minute. The other two, same deal. The only thing I can figure, unless I'm missing something, is that my everdrive must be totally defective.

This sucks.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: CloneDevil on November 11, 2020, 01:21 AM
Now try deactivating „quick boot“. And only use verified no-intro-roms for testing.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: lee4 on November 11, 2020, 02:24 PM
After having spent today, yesterday with my new GBP pulling my hair out about this, I decided I had to consult the experts.

I think this might be the most important info:
After remembering that there was a "Diagnostic" option, I tried it in and out of the GBP. In both of my GBAs and my DS, all results came back 'OK', SD RD speed = 6.2 MB/s, SD WR speed, 133.3 KB/s.

If anyone could help me, I would really appreciate it. If my ED is just defective, that sucks and I'm bummed but I'll survive, but if it's the GBP, then I have about 25 days to return it and try another one.
if run fine on your GBA and DS
then its problem with gbp
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Kaixe Rho on November 12, 2020, 07:28 AM
Now try deactivating „quick boot“. And only use verified no-intro-roms for testing.
Quick boot has been off, though the diagnostic constantly failing suggests a more fundamental problem. Also, as mentioned, only CRC verified no-intro roms are being tested.

if run fine on your GBA and DS
then its problem with gbp
As mentioned, I was able to get duplicate fail states with not only multiple gamecubes, but game boy players. I bought another one to test, and it fails in exactly the same way. Considering both work - flawlessly! - with official cartridges, I can only surmise there is less of an easy answer at play here.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Quark on November 24, 2020, 10:51 PM
i just set up my GC with GB Player with the hopes of the Everdrive working with my set up. my set up is seemingly the same as yours... GC with GC Loader and SD2SP2 using Swiss with GBI.

i have done some searching and have yet to find a post or walkthrough of this working with this exact set up, only posts like this with the same results. i have ordered an Everdrive already, not yet shipped, so hoping this will work.

--Update--
i have heard from someone that the first version of mini's did have issues with the memory RAM. the latest revision corrected this issue and are working properly. i contacted Ever Drive to confirm and Stanslav confirmed that the one that was sent out to me today is the latest revision. it is coming from Ukraine so it may be a few weeks, will update once i have it set up and hopefully working.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Quark on December 08, 2020, 07:40 PM
I received my Everdrive mini yesterday, red christmas version, and it works flawlessly with my GB Player/GC with GC Loader/sd2sp2/Swiss/GBI. Sometimes GBI hangs on the intro 'GAME BOY' screen but a hit of the reset button and it works. GBA games play flawlessly and the limited GB and GBC roms i have used also play fine using Goomba.

Very happy!!
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Kaixe Rho on January 15, 2021, 05:58 AM
Bought a new Everdrive X5, sure enough, my old one was the problem. It works perfectly, except on gameboy player.
This sucks, but it really was that simple, my old one was defective. I wonder if it had anything to do with how I had to change the battery one time?
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Richardragon87 on January 15, 2021, 06:14 PM
I received my Everdrive mini yesterday, red christmas version, and it works flawlessly with my GB Player/GC with GC Loader/sd2sp2/Swiss/GBI. Sometimes GBI hangs on the intro 'GAME BOY' screen but a hit of the reset button and it works. GBA games play flawlessly and the limited GB and GBC roms i have used also play fine using Goomba.

Very happy!!

Am surprised the Goomba games worked on the GB Player but I guess this was one of the reasons why the Everdrive GBA was the ultimate flash cart that could play any game system imaginable that it was capable of, shame I never used my Gamecube much except over this period of Lockdown just mostly playing the Sonic Mega Collection and Sonic Gems Collection complations as well as the Namco Museum 50th Anniversary disk too...
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: nuu on January 15, 2021, 06:33 PM
The Gameboy Player shouldn't be any different from any other GBA system. If it doesn't work on GBPlayer, something is still wrong. Official games, hacks, homebrew or Goomba Color doesn't matter, they should all work.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: dogman91 on March 08, 2021, 02:01 AM
I have an old Everdrive GBA with the same issue; did yours freeze and make this sound as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5AfG_mkNhU

Happens randomly in the menu for Donkey Kong Country 1 on both Game Boy Player, GBI, and GBA SP. I tested the actual cart to compare and that doesn't freeze at all.

I haven't done much testing beyond that but it seems like it only happens in the menu on this game for some reason? Can anyone else confirm? (I'm hoping to not replace my Everdrive)
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Richardragon87 on March 08, 2021, 02:21 AM
I have an old Everdrive GBA with the same issue; did yours freeze and make this sound as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5AfG_mkNhU

Happens randomly in the menu for Donkey Kong Country 1 on both Game Boy Player, GBI, and GBA SP. I tested the actual cart to compare and that doesn't freeze at all.

I haven't done much testing beyond that but it seems like it only happens in the menu on this game for some reason? Can anyone else confirm? (I'm hoping to not replace my Everdrive)

Sounds like them old days when I tried to run PCE roms with the built in PCEAdvance emulator that was built into the Super Card SD in the 2010's and the save state would always break midway into the game causing that sound... to this day I await the day the X5 can decrypt roms that have hacks on them ^^
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: dogman91 on March 08, 2021, 03:50 AM
Going to order an Everdrive x5 mini and see if the freezing stops... looking at various forum threads in the past there's been problems before with the Everdrive and Game Boy Player for some reason. I think maybe the problem is the one I have is too old basically (it's the first revision Everdrive GBA I got through preorder back in 2016).

Though I guess maybe it is playing the lottery if the PCB isn't faulty or something when ordering a new one? Since I read it's been happening to people with revision B boards.

At the very least I know it is under warranty if this new one acts up.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Richardragon87 on March 08, 2021, 04:06 AM
Going to order an Everdrive x5 mini and see if the freezing stops... looking at various forum threads in the past there's been problems before with the Everdrive and Game Boy Player for some reason. I think maybe the problem is the one I have is too old basically (it's the first revision Everdrive GBA I got through preorder back in 2016).

Though I guess maybe it is playing the lottery if the PCB isn't faulty or something when ordering a new one? Since I read it's been happening to people with revision B boards.

At the very least I know it is under warranty if this new one acts up.

Speaking of which how many games did you play on it before you ran into that issue?
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: dogman91 on March 08, 2021, 05:56 AM
Going to order an Everdrive x5 mini and see if the freezing stops... looking at various forum threads in the past there's been problems before with the Everdrive and Game Boy Player for some reason. I think maybe the problem is the one I have is too old basically (it's the first revision Everdrive GBA I got through preorder back in 2016).

Though I guess maybe it is playing the lottery if the PCB isn't faulty or something when ordering a new one? Since I read it's been happening to people with revision B boards.

At the very least I know it is under warranty if this new one acts up.

Speaking of which how many games did you play on it before you ran into that issue?
I played 4-5 games or so on it to completion on my GBA SP and only ran into the freezing issues occasionally, enough to ignore I guess. Just got a Game Boy Player a year ago or so running Swiss + Game Boy Interface and it's literally guaranteed to do it every time with every game somehow.

Every real cart I use on the Game Boy Player works perfectly fine with no freezing which is what makes me think it's the Everdrive and not the Game Boy Player itself.

Here's a short compilation on the freezes I made just now; with most games it happens at random spots but Donkey Kong Country for some reason consistently crashes at the menu: https://youtu.be/VV64GvAgjcA
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Richardragon87 on March 08, 2021, 06:05 AM
Going to order an Everdrive x5 mini and see if the freezing stops... looking at various forum threads in the past there's been problems before with the Everdrive and Game Boy Player for some reason. I think maybe the problem is the one I have is too old basically (it's the first revision Everdrive GBA I got through preorder back in 2016).

Though I guess maybe it is playing the lottery if the PCB isn't faulty or something when ordering a new one? Since I read it's been happening to people with revision B boards.

At the very least I know it is under warranty if this new one acts up.

Speaking of which how many games did you play on it before you ran into that issue?
I played 4-5 games or so on it to completion on my GBA SP and only ran into the freezing issues occasionally, enough to ignore I guess. Just got a Game Boy Player a year ago or so running Swiss + Game Boy Interface and it's literally guaranteed to do it every time with every game somehow.

Every real cart I use on the Game Boy Player works perfectly fine with no freezing which is what makes me think it's the Everdrive and not the Game Boy Player itself.

Here's a short compilation on the freezes I made just now; with most games it happens at random spots but Donkey Kong Country for some reason consistently crashes at the menu: https://youtu.be/VV64GvAgjcA

It almost looks like the SD card is failing and not the everdrive itself, like for example I used to have a 2GB SD card that worked on the Super Card SD and when it stopped running at random times I had that same issue... which seems to happen when the card runs dry if that's possible.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: dogman91 on March 08, 2021, 06:22 AM
Going to order an Everdrive x5 mini and see if the freezing stops... looking at various forum threads in the past there's been problems before with the Everdrive and Game Boy Player for some reason. I think maybe the problem is the one I have is too old basically (it's the first revision Everdrive GBA I got through preorder back in 2016).

Though I guess maybe it is playing the lottery if the PCB isn't faulty or something when ordering a new one? Since I read it's been happening to people with revision B boards.

At the very least I know it is under warranty if this new one acts up.

Speaking of which how many games did you play on it before you ran into that issue?
I played 4-5 games or so on it to completion on my GBA SP and only ran into the freezing issues occasionally, enough to ignore I guess. Just got a Game Boy Player a year ago or so running Swiss + Game Boy Interface and it's literally guaranteed to do it every time with every game somehow.

Every real cart I use on the Game Boy Player works perfectly fine with no freezing which is what makes me think it's the Everdrive and not the Game Boy Player itself.

Here's a short compilation on the freezes I made just now; with most games it happens at random spots but Donkey Kong Country for some reason consistently crashes at the menu: https://youtu.be/VV64GvAgjcA

It almost looks like the SD card is failing and not the everdrive itself, like for example I used to have a 2GB SD card that worked on the Super Card SD and when it stopped running at random times I had that same issue... which seems to happen when the card runs dry if that's possible.

Ah I wish I can say that was it! I tried two other SD cards I had lying around and unfortunately the same issues were there. Thanks for the suggestion, got a bit of hope for a second haha.

I wonder if it's also possible the Game Boy Player has some compatibility issue(?) that can be addressed in an OS update somehow. Though this problem doesn't seem to be universal for everyone.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: nuu on March 08, 2021, 11:32 AM
Swiss+GBI works fine on my X5. Could it be the roms? Are you using no-intro dumps of roms?


save state would always break midway into the game causing that sound... to this day I await the day the X5 can decrypt roms that have hacks on them ^^
Hacks are not technically any different from non-hacks. This is probably a problem with the emulator.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: dogman91 on March 08, 2021, 03:41 PM
Yep, the No-Intro set. I just ordered a new X5-mini and hoping that will solve it for now.

I tried different rom versions of DKC as well. I'm assuming my current cart is just defective. Though I hope putting these Everdrive X5's in the Game Boy Player doesn't shorten the life of it with a voltage incompatibility or something like that, since I notice it crashes way less on a GBA SP.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Shadow666 on March 08, 2021, 03:44 PM
Yep, the No-Intro set. I just ordered a new X5-mini and hoping that will solve it for now.

I tried different rom versions of DKC as well. I'm assuming my current cart is just defective. Though I hope putting these Everdrive X5's in the Game Boy Player doesn't shorten the life of it with a voltage incompatibility or something like that, since I notice it crashes way less on a GBA SP.

um there is no voltage incompatibility
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: nuu on March 09, 2021, 12:14 PM
Voltage should be fine, GBA uses 3V in GBA mode and 5V in GBC mode.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: shiggypoo on March 09, 2021, 06:19 PM
A few years ago I had a faulty EverDrive GBA X5 that would only crash when used in a GameBoy Player.  Tried 3-4 GameCube systems with GameBoy Players and every one of them would crash (and diagnostics would fail) yet it would work fine in the GBA portable systems I tried it in.  It was the oddest thing but I got a different cartridge and it worked perfectly in everything up until I sold it for my X5 Mini.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Richardragon87 on March 09, 2021, 09:27 PM
A few years ago I had a faulty EverDrive GBA X5 that would only crash when used in a GameBoy Player.  Tried 3-4 GameCube systems with GameBoy Players and every one of them would crash (and diagnostics would fail) yet it would work fine in the GBA portable systems I tried it in.  It was the oddest thing but I got a different cartridge and it worked perfectly in everything up until I sold it for my X5 Mini.

Kind of sealed the deal why I resisted getting the X5 GBA everdrive for so many years after getting the original GB Everdrive, what was the fun of it when you couldn't play it on a TV's Super Gameboy... the enhanced boarders far made it a better value despite the GBA X5 being the ultimate emulation station.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: nuu on March 10, 2021, 04:28 PM
Shiggypoo's X5 was faulty though. Everdrive GB should work on SGB and both Everdrive GB and GBA should work on Game Boy Player (with or without GBI), or else something is probably wrong with the Everdrive.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: dogman91 on March 11, 2021, 10:45 PM
Turned out the GBA Everdrive X5 I had WAS faulty. The new X5 mini I have now passes all the diagnostic tests and runs perfectly on the Game Boy Player. So I guess if you had one of the earlier revisions it's a crap shoot in that sense.

I am happy now though!

Yeah the Everdrive GB I have which is a really early one works fine on the Super Game Boy + Super Game Boy 2 + Game Boy Player. Unless you mean you can't plug the GBA Everdrive into a Super Game Boy for the borders... that's why I got both really.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: Richardragon87 on March 12, 2021, 01:30 AM
Turned out the GBA Everdrive X5 I had WAS faulty. The new X5 mini I have now passes all the diagnostic tests and runs perfectly on the Game Boy Player. So I guess if you had one of the earlier revisions it's a crap shoot in that sense.

I am happy now though!

Yeah the Everdrive GB I have which is a really early one works fine on the Super Game Boy + Super Game Boy 2 + Game Boy Player. Unless you mean you can't plug the GBA Everdrive into a Super Game Boy for the borders... that's why I got both really.

Yeah I see your point the GBA everdrive couldn't run boarders so that's where goomba came in as it has a burn image variant that cannot be interchangeable when changing games, unlike the Everdrive GB on a SGB which had interchangeable boarders of any game that could run them to be played on any other game that didn't have them when the main menu is accessed again.
Title: Re: ED GBA X5 crashes when using Game Boy Player, every time
Post by: nuu on March 12, 2021, 01:52 PM
Yes you really need both EDGB and EDGBA. Playing on Goomba is mostly emulation which mostly defeats the point of a flashcart. Nothing beats playing games on the real original hardware.