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X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« on: March 10, 2021, 06:45 AM »
In a lot of games, and especially demos/homebrew, the cart button doesn't work AT ALL. I'll press it several times and nothing happens, even though it's enabled in the OS' options menu. In some games, it works fine. I just got the Everdrive, and the button feels clicky and healthy, and there's no visible issue with anything on the cart... it just doesn't work very often.

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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2021, 07:05 AM »
In a lot of games, and especially demos/homebrew, the cart button doesn't work AT ALL. I'll press it several times and nothing happens, even though it's enabled in the OS' options menu. In some games, it works fine. I just got the Everdrive, and the button feels clicky and healthy, and there's no visible issue with anything on the cart... it just doesn't work very often.

This is the first time I have heard of the "cart button" what is it suppose to do?
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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2021, 08:53 AM »
It's more of a "for lack of a better word" term. Push in on front of cart, button is pressed, in-game menu to save/load state or soft reset appears.

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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2021, 04:48 PM »
It's more of a "for lack of a better word" term. Push in on front of cart, button is pressed, in-game menu to save/load state or soft reset appears.

So what you are saying is their was no official way to go back to the in-game menu without turning the device off and the cart button was meant to activate a trigger which reset it back without having to turn it off and on again... well the Everdrive GBA didn't have a reset to menu feature either it was only applied to the SD2SNES for obvious reasons but it still is possible to reset to the menu of the everdrive without turning it off but it would require taking the cart out and putting it in while the Gameboy is on but for what it's worth it's not a issue just pushing the switch down and up again to reset the Gameboy it was a pretty simple 90's method for games I think.
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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2021, 05:55 PM »
It's more of a "for lack of a better word" term. Push in on front of cart, button is pressed, in-game menu to save/load state or soft reset appears.

So what you are saying is their was no official way to go back to the in-game menu without turning the device off and the cart button was meant to activate a trigger which reset it back without having to turn it off and on again... well the Everdrive GBA didn't have a reset to menu feature either it was only applied to the SD2SNES for obvious reasons but it still is possible to reset to the menu of the everdrive without turning it off but it would require taking the cart out and putting it in while the Gameboy is on but for what it's worth it's not a issue just pushing the switch down and up again to reset the Gameboy it was a pretty simple 90's method for games I think.
It's on the store page as a feature for the Everdrive GB x7 specifically, and it's literally required to be used to save SRAM to the SD card on the x3. https://krikzz.com/store/home/46-everdrive-gb.html
This is also how you make and use save states, so you'd expect it to work regardless of how it was usually done "originally". It's literally a button INSIDE the cartridge, and you push in on the front of the cartridge, the cart flexes, and the button is pushed. A lot of Everdrives have one of these buttons somewhere, my Turbo Everdrive has one too. (You can even SEE it in the pictures on the store page, it's just above the sticker, just off-center to the right. It's a very light color.)
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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2021, 06:51 PM »
button work for retail games only

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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2021, 10:38 PM »
It's more of a "for lack of a better word" term. Push in on front of cart, button is pressed, in-game menu to save/load state or soft reset appears.

So what you are saying is their was no official way to go back to the in-game menu without turning the device off and the cart button was meant to activate a trigger which reset it back without having to turn it off and on again... well the Everdrive GBA didn't have a reset to menu feature either it was only applied to the SD2SNES for obvious reasons but it still is possible to reset to the menu of the everdrive without turning it off but it would require taking the cart out and putting it in while the Gameboy is on but for what it's worth it's not a issue just pushing the switch down and up again to reset the Gameboy it was a pretty simple 90's method for games I think.
It's on the store page as a feature for the Everdrive GB x7 specifically, and it's literally required to be used to save SRAM to the SD card on the x3. https://krikzz.com/store/home/46-everdrive-gb.html
This is also how you make and use save states, so you'd expect it to work regardless of how it was usually done "originally". It's literally a button INSIDE the cartridge, and you push in on the front of the cartridge, the cart flexes, and the button is pushed. A lot of Everdrives have one of these buttons somewhere, my Turbo Everdrive has one too. (You can even SEE it in the pictures on the store page, it's just above the sticker, just off-center to the right. It's a very light color.)

Ah I see... I guess I'm not familiar with this because of the way the label goes over the button even more so when hooked to a SGB it's near impossible to do that too xD
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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2021, 12:39 AM »
button work for retail games only

OS requires hook to reset, as homebrew have no memory location to hook with
So it's based on a database of hook offsets? That's... interesting. I thought it'd be something like swapping out bank 0.

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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2021, 01:16 PM »
What are these hook offsets? Locations to insert the reset code into?

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Re: X7 - Cart button doesn't work very often
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2021, 06:32 PM »
it still is possible to reset to the menu of the everdrive without turning it off but it would require taking the cart out and putting it in while the Gameboy is on

In case anyone is curious; don't do this with any original console. Ever.