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Title: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 25, 2018, 01:32 PM
Month ago was released new flashcart form EZ, im wondering its better than x5? Any one have it?  :D

I found some info about that:

http://www.ezflash.cn/omega.html (http://www.ezflash.cn/omega.html)

https://youtu.be/2UqYTI5VKMA (https://youtu.be/2UqYTI5VKMA)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 01:37 PM
I don't believe it as an RTC feature... so its one step backwards.

Edit: I was thinking of the Ez-Flash Reform.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 01:40 PM
http://www.ezflash.cn/ez-flash-omega-announced/

Then again this does indicate it has a real time clock...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 25, 2018, 01:40 PM
I don't believe it as an RTC feature... so its one step backwards.

Well someone showing this function on movie: https://youtu.be/HmnRUL61QxI (https://youtu.be/HmnRUL61QxI)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 01:44 PM
They sound virtually equal then... Other than changeable case sizes...

The only thing that would get me to buy a new GBA flash cart though is extra features like maybe rumble pack support, solar support, and motion control, compatiblity for GBA/DS game links (all types of linking between GBA and DS carts used over the course of DS release history). Also I want save states.

However, I own all the weird GBA carts that have motion, solar, or rumble already.

I'd be especially happy if the rumble worked with DS Rumble compatible games.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 25, 2018, 01:47 PM
They sound virtually equal then... Other than changeable case sizes...

The only thing that would get me to buy a new GBA flash cart though is extra features like maybe rumble pack support, solar support, and motion control, compatiblity for GBA/DS game links (all types of linking between GBA and DS carts used over the course of DS release history). Also I want save states.

However, I own all the weird GBA carts that have motion, solar, or rumble already.

I'd be especially happy if the rumble worked with DS Rumble compatible games.

Ok, thanks for comment!
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 01:48 PM
Case build on the EZ Flash looks pretty cheap though... not durable.

Here is the DS/GBA connectivity I was referring too... This is a must buy feature for me if someone includes it...

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_DS_games_with_GBA_connectivity

Someone mentions that Omega has a higher battery drain... draining 1-2 hours faster than a regular cart.

 EDGBA has almost same battery drain as a regular cart as far as I can tell...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 01:55 PM
Ok the reviewer claims that Omega has save state options! That sounds like something that might interest me...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 25, 2018, 04:15 PM
Ok the reviewer claims that Omega has save state options! That sounds like something that might interest me...

My friends will have it on may, we will see what is it. Im looking smth for ds lite, compact size shell is awesome, and important for me. ED looking awful with ds lite...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 04:58 PM
TO be honest anything specifically designed for DS Lite to me should also come with rumble feature for DS games... But unfortunately that gets overlooked..

I would love to see the original EZ Flash V/ 3in1 get a redesign, and brought back.

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NORFLASH
DIRECT BOOT
Launch game, if game was written by WRITE TO NOR ADDON, it will equal BOOT WITH ADDON
DELETE
Select the last game in the list and choose this option will delete the game from NORFLASH, otherwise a warning will be occurred.
FORMAT
Erase the whole NORFLASH completely. it will cost 4 minutes to be done. use it with caution. DO NOT TURN OFF THE CONSOLE POWER WHEN FORMATTING, IT WILL DAMAGE THE NORFLASH.

I theory Direct Boot sounds like the feature that original 3in1 had, which could be allowed to have a single game in memory to load up bypassing the flashcart's main menu. It also allowed GBA/DS connectivity for at least some games....

Found a good detailed review:

https://gbatemp.net/review/ez-flash-omega.765/
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 25, 2018, 05:29 PM

Found a good detailed review:

https://gbatemp.net/review/ez-flash-omega.765/

Thanks, and what are you think?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on April 25, 2018, 05:34 PM
Features that the Omega has over the X5:
Savestates
Cheats
reset-to-menu function
a global RTC that actually works with mltiple games
so small, it can even sit flush in a DS-Lite

Features the X5 has over the Omega:
lower power drain
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 05:38 PM
That sounds about right...

Maybe add that X5 has more durable plastic shell, apparently not as 'tight'.

It sounds interesting... even if the Save States apparently isn't perfect....

Can you confirm if the "direct boot" is similar to the one that was on the 3in1/EZ-F V combo? Or am I reading that wrong, or reading too much into it?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 05:41 PM

Found a good detailed review:

https://gbatemp.net/review/ez-flash-omega.765/

Thanks, and what are you think?

I'm strongly thinking about buying one, if I can get confirmation on Direct Boot functioning like the old 3in1... I want something that at least allow me to unlock extras in my DS games through connectivity. Sounds like not worth it for emulation, same problems as Goomba emulator on x5, and save states may not be worth it, unless updates can improve it.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on April 25, 2018, 05:43 PM
Can you confirm if the "direct boot" is similar to the one that was on the 3in1/EZ-F V combo? Or am I reading that wrong, or reading too much into it?
You're probably reading the wrong feature into it. There is no way to have a single game in memory, the card will always have to go trough the menu.

The shell of the Omega has a decent quality, it's a lot more sturdy than the old EZ-Flash IV shell - but it's a tight fit inside a GBA SP in particular (Gameboy Micro and a regular GBA seem to be less of an issues in this regard) But then again, for me flashcards are a kind of cartridge that pretty much stay inside the system all the time.

That said, I don't have an EDGBA to compare it to in terms of build quality, but judging from my EDGB and ED64 the build quality of the X5 should be higher

EDIT: I wonder of Krikzz is now considering an EDGBA X7 with similar features and smaller size.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 06:09 PM
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"You're probably reading the wrong feature into it. There is no way to have a single game in memory, the card will always have to go trough the menu"

Unless its able to fake a header (shows up in the system as header of whatever you keep primary in the NOR)... maybe...

Potentially couldn't they just have something in the O/S, skip to auto load the game? Something similar to how old DS used to have a setting that would skip from menu directly into the game, if you have hte feature flagged? But put the boot up right into the cartridge itself, an a way to bypass it?


What is confusing about it is they had a feature with the same term/name in the list of features for the 3in1.

I wish someone would ask them more clearly what the option is there fore, and its full purpose?

http://www.ezflash.cn/product/ez-flash-3-in-1/

Quote
NDS Lite compatible
Extension memory support
Browser compatible
Third-party flash card compatible
128Mbit PSRAM
256Mbit Nor-Flash
Rumble support
GBA game direct boot

Autoboot/direct boot used to be more common... under certain conditions in older flashcarts.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/auto-boot-load-a-single-rom-file-from-gba-cart.428994/

Going by that, one possibility is that maybe once you flash a game to NOR, then remove the SD card, maybe it would bypass the menu altogether, and load directly from the NOR. I wish they'd explain what "Direct Boot" actually means more clearly.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 06:14 PM
Can you confirm if the "direct boot" is similar to the one that was on the 3in1/EZ-F V combo? Or am I reading that wrong, or reading too much into it?
You're probably reading the wrong feature into it. There is no way to have a single game in memory, the card will always have to go trough the menu.

The shell of the Omega has a decent quality, it's a lot more sturdy than the old EZ-Flash IV shell - but it's a tight fit inside a GBA SP in particular (Gameboy Micro and a regular GBA seem to be less of an issues in this regard) But then again, for me flashcards are a kind of cartridge that pretty much stay inside the system all the time.

That said, I don't have an EDGBA to compare it to in terms of build quality, but judging from my EDGB and ED64 the build quality of the X5 should be higher

EDIT: I wonder of Krikzz is now considering an EDGBA X7 with similar features and smaller size.

Well, the X5's shell quality is really robust... Other than some tightness in my replacement case (the initial case had a crack in the back side). It feels like same quality as case used for Boktai games... There is possibility of stripping the screw though (which I discovered happened to the case I was replacing), which hopefully can be improved upon in future iterations.

If Krikkz announces a x7 with similar options, or even better or more optins, I certainly would go for it, over the EZ Flash . I'm very happy with his products I've used so far.

I'm certainly going to wait it out for a while before I  buy any new GBA flashcart.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 25, 2018, 06:29 PM
Little comparison of summary:https://imgur.com/a/RXQUJ1J (https://imgur.com/a/RXQUJ1J)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 07:40 PM
Ya, no way I'd sell my X5 just yet. It works nearly flawlessly, and no having to patch anything. Too much to go 'wrong' with the method EZ-Flash uses.

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for me flashcards are a kind of cartridge that pretty much stay inside the system all the time.

Well I run two flashcards at least... GB/GBC EDGB X7 and X5 for GBA games. Emulation quality is just not that good to run all on the same flashcard.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on April 25, 2018, 07:50 PM
Couldn't care less about the save states or the cheats function, if I would still need a patching program in order to get the roms working and even that the loading times are high and don't have RTC support, the Ez Flash is yet to top the ED GBA
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 07:59 PM
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even that the loading times are high and don't hace RTC support

This has RTC support, and around the same loading speed as the EDGBA X5, less than 3 seconds.

In fact the RTC is better than the ED-GBA in it can provision different times for each game, and maintain multiple clock data. One game won't erase the clock data for another game.

The patching system on this new one is done by the flash card itself at the same time it loads the game in that less than 3 second window, not something you have to manually do yourself in a seperate computer program like on older EZ Flash models, but its mainly for for cheats options and convert some of the save options to be comptatible with its save technology.

Otherwise I agree not having to even be concerned that a game 'patched' correctly is much better feature on the EDGBA X5. Drag and drop clean roms, and don't have to worry that the files get corrupted by bad patching.

Its different than the EZ-Flash Reform model. I mixed the two up at first too.

Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on April 25, 2018, 08:18 PM
Just watched the video, it indeed looks superior to the ED GBA, but I couldn't avoid noticing that some people had heavy energy draining issues
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on April 25, 2018, 09:28 PM
And what about the compability? ED GBA has near 100%, but can't seem to find any info about the EZO, only that the GBC emulation is a hit or miss with that cartridge
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 10:39 PM
The more features you push onto a flash card, the more they will drain. Especially if a flash card has some kind of processor to do its 'magic'.

But apparently the drain is improved on the Omega over the drain that the Reform had... Reform was apparently much worse.

But Krikkz is still better on that front.

And what about the compability? ED GBA has near 100%, but can't seem to find any info about the EZO, only that the GBC emulation is a hit or miss with that cartridge

I think previous EZ Flashes were roughly 90% or more for compatiblity... But part of the problem was they had less PSRAM than the equivalent memory on the X5 (for larger games, and games that needed larger saves), that's fixed on the Omega.  But beyond that compatiblity is still going to come down to system correcting patching the files to work with the flash card's memory, and that's something X5 doesn't have to bother with.

I want to know what "direct boot" is, and how well the patch abilities work, and how well save states work before I decide on this new device though... Hopefully, Krikkz will be motivated to announce his own competition as well.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 25, 2018, 10:52 PM
I tried to sign up to EZFlash's website in order to ask questions but their captcha is broken...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on April 26, 2018, 12:02 AM
And what about the compability? ED GBA has near 100%, but can't seem to find any info about the EZO.
Compatibility is near 100%, too. Some games might have issues with the reset/cheat/savestate function but you can always "clean boot" games without patches if a game has issues.

Even the reform had near 100% compatibility (I am not sure where some of your numbers like 90% come from, tbh.)

manually patching ROMs hasn't been a thing for almost a year now, EZ-Flash has implemented automatic on-the-card patching for the EZ-Flash IV and Reform last year.

@Galron: the ezflash team is active on the GBA section of gbatemp.net under the moniker "EZ-Flash2". If you have an account there, you can drop your questions there.

Edit: regarding power consumption - yes, the Omega is still rather thirsty. I did a benchmark and I was able to run a rom for just shy of 6hours o my gba SP.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 26, 2018, 09:50 AM
I was looking at the lists for pre-reform (so it didn't apply to Reform) compatiblity lists that are online. Quite a few games that worked on EDGBA x5 would not work on the earlier versons of EzFlash, ... at least not without some hacking/patching, at least according to those lists (but who knows how accurate they were). The main issues people were pointing to was large game file sizes being a problem, but that's one reason the NOR was there in the first place IIRC? And issues with certain game saves files.

Reform itself doesn't look like a bad flash cart, except for its lack of RTC, and its a bit slower.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on April 26, 2018, 09:57 AM
I was looking at the lists for pre-reform (so it didn't apply to Reform) compatiblity lists that are online. Quite a few games that worked on EDGBA x5 would not work on the earlier versons of EzFlash... at least not without some hacking/patching. The main issues people were pointing to was large game file sizes being a problem, but that's one reason the NOR was there in the first place IIRC? And issues with certain game saves files.

Reform itself doesn't look like a bad flash cart, except for its lack of RTC, and its a bit slower.

Some games required a "reset" before launching the ROM on the EZ-Flash IV and Reform (like yoshis Island), but there were ways to invoke this manually and at with firmware version 2.02 they introduced a config setting to make this behaviour the default (Modified kernels already did this way before that).

Just out of curiousity: What compatibility list did you check?

Larger games needed to be written to the NOR which can take a few minutes but load instantly once they are on it.

Still, compatibility is pretty much 100% on the EZ-Flash IV, Reform, Omega and EDGBA X5. (I know the 512Mbit GBA Video Releases are incompatible with the EZ-Flash cards, most likely with the EDGBA X5 as well.)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 26, 2018, 01:22 PM
I dont' remember exact sites, to be honest I just googled "EZ-Flash compatibliy lists".
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: FeverDrive on April 28, 2018, 06:01 AM
Well... EDGBA X5 has better build quality, less energy consumption and full support and replacement if something fails
Ez Flash Omega is smaller and cheaper, I guess the people who wanted the cartridge to sit flush in the console will choose the EZ Flash.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 28, 2018, 01:27 PM
And what about the compability? ED GBA has near 100%, but can't seem to find any info about the EZO.
Compatibility is near 100%, too. Some games might have issues with the reset/cheat/savestate function but you can always "clean boot" games without patches if a game has issues.

Even the reform had near 100% compatibility (I am not sure where some of your numbers like 90% come from, tbh.)

manually patching ROMs hasn't been a thing for almost a year now, EZ-Flash has implemented automatic on-the-card patching for the EZ-Flash IV and Reform last year.

@Galron: the ezflash team is active on the GBA section of gbatemp.net under the moniker "EZ-Flash2". If you have an account there, you can drop your questions there.

Edit: regarding power consumption - yes, the Omega is still rather thirsty. I did a benchmark and I was able to run a rom for just shy of 6hours o my gba SP.

Localhurst, as I don't really actively post at GBAtemp, is there any chance you could ask the team on our behalf, to clear up any misunderstanding as to what the "direct boot" feature is intended to do/purpose?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on April 28, 2018, 09:46 PM
I think we'll just have to wait while some people sacrifices their wallets so they can discover if it's an improvement or just a good try
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: slaphappygamer on April 29, 2018, 01:32 AM
The fact that saving does not rely on a battery is nice
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: JCR1 on April 29, 2018, 03:27 AM
I bet that the actual everdrive gba x5 can have more features and improvements in firmware updates but krikzz is very busy developing for several everdrives.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 29, 2018, 07:33 PM
I doubt hte features would be added 'software/firmware' side. Although in theory it might be possible to add such features through software alone (as I think was the case for some ds R4 flashcarts, which added 'save states' in a later firmware update I think). Could third party custom firmware be an option? Who knows...

Also I doubt Krikkz would do a software method additions when he can split the systems up into different types, and charge for each one....
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on April 30, 2018, 10:32 AM
Well... EDGBA X5 has better build quality, less energy consumption and full support and replacement if something fails
Ez Flash Omega is smaller and cheaper, I guess the people who wanted the cartridge to sit flush in the console will choose the EZ Flash.
Indeed! Shell size is a big plus of this flashcart!
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on April 30, 2018, 06:48 PM
Localhurst, as I don't really actively post at GBAtemp, is there any chance you could ask the team on our behalf, to clear up any misunderstanding as to what the "direct boot" feature is intended to do/purpose?

I figured out what you mean by direct boot, you're referring to the option "direct boot" referenced in the manuals nor section. This option is just the boot option for the games in nor. When you launch a game via PSRAM, you can select between "clean boot" and "boot addon". The latter will enable extended features like cheats and save states.

When writing a game to NOR you can only select "direct boot" which will launch the game from NOR.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on April 30, 2018, 10:28 PM
TBH the X5's shell size is not that big... or obtrusive.... It's roughly the same size as GBA games that have motion control like Yoshi's Topsy Turvy, or the Boktai games. Nothing as bulk as the classic Gameboy sized shells.

I barely notice it, and only if I'm looking at it..
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Deltax5 on April 30, 2018, 10:41 PM
Does link cable still work with this?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 01, 2018, 12:07 AM
Does link cable still work with this?
GBAx5 supports link cable without a problem, even the GC link, and even using it through Nintendont with native controlers toggled on
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 01, 2018, 01:48 AM
Does link cable still work with this?

Yes. This includes the EZ-Flash omega and reform as well as the EDGBA 5X. Reportedly, GCN link compatibility also works fine on all three cards but I can't confirm because I lack a gamecube.

TBH the X5's shell size is not that big... or obtrusive.... It's roughly the same size as GBA games that have motion control like Yoshi's Topsy Turvy, or the Boktai games.

Probably not a big issue on the classic gba where the game sticks out where it isn't in the way. But for the GBA SP and Gameboy Micro, I find playing the boktai games and yoshis universal gravitation is uncomfortable because the cartridge is in the way of my hands. Actually, on the DS Lite as well, there it sticks out even more Tha a regular GBA cart.

It's just a point to consider whe making your choice. If battery runtime is important and the larger case doesnt bother you, the EDGBA X5 might be the right choice.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 01, 2018, 02:33 AM
Let's put it simple:
If you're casual, go for the EZO, if you're a hardcore gamer, or like to play for hours and hours, go for the EDGBAx5
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: overtrash on May 02, 2018, 11:48 AM
Let's put it simple:
If you're casual, go for the EZO, if you're a hardcore gamer, or like to play for hours and hours, go for the EDGBAx5

I'll buy omega for the DS Lite, in next month probably. X5 will be sitting in my modded GBA(AGS101)...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 03, 2018, 11:48 AM
I'm not exactly sure how 'amount of time' players spend playing is going to have much bearing on experience of using one or the other. Unless of course the EZO 'burns' out with heavy play, and X5 runs fine.

Of course the only difference being you'll get to play an hour or two longer with the x5 just because it doesn't draw as much power. However, many heavy player,  generallly play plugged in during long bouts, to avoid having to worry about battery draining mid play.

Non-casual playhers could certain take advantage of features that EZO offers over the X5 as well.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 03, 2018, 11:49 AM
Does link cable still work with this?

Yes. This includes the EZ-Flash omega and reform as well as the EDGBA 5X. Reportedly, GCN link compatibility also works fine on all three cards but I can't confirm because I lack a gamecube.

TBH the X5's shell size is not that big... or obtrusive.... It's roughly the same size as GBA games that have motion control like Yoshi's Topsy Turvy, or the Boktai games.

Probably not a big issue on the classic gba where the game sticks out where it isn't in the way. But for the GBA SP and Gameboy Micro, I find playing the boktai games and yoshis universal gravitation is uncomfortable because the cartridge is in the way of my hands. Actually, on the DS Lite as well, there it sticks out even more Tha a regular GBA cart.

It's just a point to consider whe making your choice. If battery runtime is important and the larger case doesnt bother you, the EDGBA X5 might be the right choice.

GCN link works with X5 just fine, I tested on a wii myself.

As for the system I play on is an AGS-101 and it really doesn't stick out far, at all. I barely notice it. It doesn't even dig into my palms. It would stick out on a DS, but all GBA games do.

Even playing with the GB x7 on a SP sticks out much further, but never digs into my palms, and is mostly unnoticeable while playing. 

MY biggest problem with the x7 though is I sometimes accidently bump the savestate button with my pinkies, in the middle of a game, bringing up the menu.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: BRNexus on May 06, 2018, 06:29 AM
While GBA X5 is a quality product, the Omega is clearly superior and $40 cheaper to boot.   Also, not annoying overhang.

Krikzz should either drop the price of the X5 or come out with something that can actually compete with the Omega. 

If you are playing at home battery drainage should be irrelevant since you can just plug into outlet.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Deltax5 on May 06, 2018, 04:26 PM
Im so tempted just getting a omega. It has cheat codes and save stat's which I want. I have a m3 lite and have no issue's with it but I think link cable doesn't work so i hear never tried actually. I need to know if the omega has any issue's with link cable. Also can you use the omega as a second ds cart to load ds game also like my m3 lite.
I may just suck it up and get the x7 I just hope it releases by 2019 sometime.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: BRNexus on May 06, 2018, 10:55 PM
Im so tempted just getting a omega. It has cheat codes and save stat's which I want. I have a m3 lite and have no issue's with it but I think link cable doesn't work so i hear never tried actually. I need to know if the omega has any issue's with link cable. Also can you use the omega as a second ds cart to load ds game also like my m3 lite.
I may just suck it up and get the x7 I just hope it releases by 2019 sometime.

A X7 GBA from Krikzz will probably be superior in terms of power draw and overall quality, but I'm betting it will be close to 2.5x the cost of the Omega without any extra real features over it.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 10, 2018, 02:05 PM
If x7 doesn't offer at least save states and cheats I won't be upgrading at all to it... It needs to truly surpass the x5 beyond 'simply being smaller', and truly surpass the omega.

To be honest I'd rather see everything get renumbered... Make x3 and x5 the 'small' ones, make X7 a little oversized with extra features maybe even solar or motion control, or vibration. Sure there is only like 3 games per each feature... 3 boktai games for solar, 3 motion control games, and 2-3 games with vibration built in... I personally own all of the games already. But it would be kinda cool to have it all in one cart.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 10, 2018, 02:09 PM
Im so tempted just getting a omega. It has cheat codes and save stat's which I want. I have a m3 lite and have no issue's with it but I think link cable doesn't work so i hear never tried actually. I need to know if the omega has any issue's with link cable. Also can you use the omega as a second ds cart to load ds game also like my m3 lite.
I may just suck it up and get the x7 I just hope it releases by 2019 sometime.

Doesn't the omega use micro sd, and micro sd adapters? Just like the Kriccz stuff?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 14, 2018, 06:21 PM
Only negative that I can see (and for me this is a huge negative)... The battery for the RTC on the Omega is not replaceable. Non replaceable batteries is a problem with many of the older Ez-Flash products as well.

http://www.maxconsole.com/threads/updated-official-maxconsole-ezflash-omega-review.46870/

"Non-removable lithium ion battery."

If something goes wrong with the battery, or it no longer holds a charge, it will make the entire flashcart use for RTC games completely useless. At least it can still save regular saves to the SD without the battery or having to push any buttons.

But most people are paying for the RTC for that function to always be available, and replaceable.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 14, 2018, 08:00 PM
No removable battery, guess that's ends the fight, the EDGBAx5 wins
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 14, 2018, 08:12 PM
I wonder if that's how they saved room too (so it can fit in the DS GBA slot)... by using a non-standard, non-changeable battery...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 14, 2018, 09:36 PM
I wonder if that's how they saved room too (so it can fit in the DS GBA slot)... by using a non-standard, non-changeable battery...
Sounds like one way to save space (and costs) . While replacing the soldered on battery isn't really that hard (I have done it to both of my boktai cartridges), I can see why some people do not feel comfortable about that.

BTW these arent "non standard". Batteries with soldering tips are readily available.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 15, 2018, 11:45 AM
It's hard to tell really but it looks like they encased the battery in something that way more protective than your average Nintendo era 'perma-battery' and its flimsy strip of metal. Not sure what the case is and if it can be recycled for use on other batteries.

(https://gbatemp.net/attachments/img_0748-jpg.116991/)


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nPhElwXj2L4/TVKNHoZQ1oI/AAAAAAAAAKs/Sw3x4329Vew/s1600/DSCN7708.JPG)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 15, 2018, 11:51 AM
see the attachment for a picture of the board. Looks like a CR1220 battery to me:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Pcs-2-Pins-tabs-CR1220-1220-3V-Cell-Coin-Battery-Right/222869994359

your picture is a prototype, they probably used different components for that :)
You can often find these shrink wrapped batteries in Laptops for the CMOS. Technically you could probably also shrink wrap the battery yourself using shrink tubing, but that seems only a reasonable option if you're soldering often and already have the materials in stock. Not something for a "one-off-job".

EDIT: Either way: Yes, the battery is soldered in place on the omega, and yes, it's definatelly a lot more comfortable on the EDGBA with its battery holder. And while it isn't too hard for someone with rather basic soldering skills to replace the battery, it's not for everyone and it's understandable if someone who doesn't have the time or patience (or doesn't feel comfortable soldering) or simply doesn't have a soldering iron doesn't want to deal with that.

EDIT 2: I also just realized that the image of the Golden Sun cartridge you posted is actually a counterfeit card. Original GBA games don't have that black blob on them. Also, Golden Sun uses Flash storage for its savegame and therefore wouldn't require a battery. Just a bit of information I noticed :)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 15, 2018, 02:05 PM
Ya, I wasn't sure about the image of the black sun, funny thing though it was on a website discussing how to replace batteries LOL!

https://ap.nintendo.com/detect/photos/gameboy_advance.jsp

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LqDwoa3ABZw/UMaVCPtWFwI/AAAAAAAAAVk/vgE-CsgJSHY/s1600/IMG_0102.JPG)


Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 15, 2018, 02:10 PM
A list of the games that do have batteries.

https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/221224/do-gba-cartridge-batteries-run-dry-after-some-time
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: BRNexus on May 15, 2018, 03:04 PM
Thankfully the battery is only used for RTC and not actually save data.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on May 16, 2018, 06:39 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gameboy/comments/8jecob/warning_ez_flash_omega_cant_save_using_an_gba_sp/

Hmm...

Quote
So yeah multiple users, including me, have noticed that the new EZ Flash Omega can't save using a GBA SP 101. An AGB 001 does work perfectly.
I don't know if this happens with everyone, but it did for me and other people. And only while using the SP 101... So you might want to wait it out if you are planning to use a SP 101.
See these two topics for more info:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-doesnt-save-a-single-game-ags-101.503885/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-initial-error-and-save-issues.503551/
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 16, 2018, 03:09 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gameboy/comments/8jecob/warning_ez_flash_omega_cant_save_using_an_gba_sp/

Hmm...

Quote
So yeah multiple users, including me, have noticed that the new EZ Flash Omega can't save using a GBA SP 101. An AGB 001 does work perfectly.
I don't know if this happens with everyone, but it did for me and other people. And only while using the SP 101... So you might want to wait it out if you are planning to use a SP 101.
See these two topics for more info:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-doesnt-save-a-single-game-ags-101.503885/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-initial-error-and-save-issues.503551/

Right, that's unfortunate. I wonder what causes the saves not working on the AGS-101 model of the GBA SP. It apparently works perfectly fine with any other GBA (AGB-001, AGS-001, GB Micro, DS, DS Lite).
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: BRNexus on May 16, 2018, 11:16 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gameboy/comments/8jecob/warning_ez_flash_omega_cant_save_using_an_gba_sp/

Hmm...

Quote
So yeah multiple users, including me, have noticed that the new EZ Flash Omega can't save using a GBA SP 101. An AGB 001 does work perfectly.
I don't know if this happens with everyone, but it did for me and other people. And only while using the SP 101... So you might want to wait it out if you are planning to use a SP 101.
See these two topics for more info:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-doesnt-save-a-single-game-ags-101.503885/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/ez-flash-omega-initial-error-and-save-issues.503551/

Right, that's unfortunate. I wonder what causes the saves not working on the AGS-101 model of the GBA SP. It apparently works perfectly fine with any other GBA (AGB-001, AGS-001, GB Micro, DS, DS Lite).

Well it does work on some people's 101 models, but not all.    Perhaps you have to wait a bit longer for the save to work before shutting off power?

Anyways, I'm sure this can be fixed via a firmware update.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: FeverDrive on May 17, 2018, 06:45 AM
This gives +1 point for the Everdrive GBA  :P
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 17, 2018, 09:23 AM
Actually +2 points, swappable battery is a big plus
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 17, 2018, 09:46 AM
Actually +2 points, swappable battery is a big plus

So the EDGBA X5 is now only 6:3 behind :P
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 17, 2018, 11:14 AM
Actually +2 points, swappable battery is a big plus
So the EDGBA X5 is now only 6:3 behind :P
What would make the EZO better than the EDGBA aside from the size and price?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 17, 2018, 11:33 AM
Points for the EZO
1. Size
2. Price
3. No battery needed for saving games
4. RTC can keep the time properly for multiple games (no workaround needed)
5. Savestates
6. Cheats

Points for the EDGBA
1. Lower Power consumption
2. Easily replaceable battery (atually required for saving games)
3. no compatibility issues with the AGS-101 model
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: BRNexus on May 18, 2018, 08:14 AM
I'm sure Krikzz is going to want to release an X7 sooner than later, but I'm sure it will come with quite the premium when you consider X5 is already $99. 
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: FeverDrive on May 18, 2018, 09:35 PM
Points for the EZO
1. Size
2. Price
3. No battery needed for saving games
4. RTC can keep the time properly for multiple games (no workaround needed)
5. Savestates
6. Cheats

Points for the EDGBA
1. Lower Power consumption
2. Easily replaceable battery (atually required for saving games)
3. no compatibility issues with the AGS-101 model
4. Better build quality (plastic shell + PCB)
5. One year warranty service (free fix or replacement)
6. Partial lifetime warranty

Good luck getting warranty from the chinese manufacturer  ::)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: BRNexus on May 19, 2018, 02:46 AM
My Omega came in today.    Saves work just fine on my GBA SP 101 model.   
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 22, 2018, 04:30 PM
My Omega came in today.    Saves work just fine on my GBA SP 101 model.
they seem to have narrowed it down to European AGS-101 models and are allegedly working on a fix
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: JCR1 on May 22, 2018, 06:35 PM
In omega also you need wait 5-10 seconds after saving, if you don't, you can corrupt your micro sd and lost your saves, that's is a BIG problem for me.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 22, 2018, 07:28 PM
In omega also you need wait 5-10 seconds after saving, if you don't, you can corrupt your micro sd and lost your saves, that's is a BIG problem for me.
Wait wut? Nobody seem to mention that before, interesting.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Cloudmp on May 23, 2018, 06:04 AM
I bought an omega recently, on the first day of use it worked perfectly, on the second day, as i turn on the console, 70% of the time would appear the message "bootloader not found", so i had to turn off the console, remove the cartridge, and insert it again, until it worked. on the third day it was dead, only this message would appear, I had to return to the seller and ask for my money back, the build quality does not seem to be so great with this cartridge.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on May 23, 2018, 10:24 AM
In omega also you need wait 5-10 seconds after saving, if you don't, you can corrupt your micro sd and lost your saves, that's is a BIG problem for me.
In omega also you need wait 5-10 seconds after saving, if you don't, you can corrupt your micro sd and lost your saves, that's is a BIG problem for me.
Wait wut? Nobody seem to mention that before, interesting.

The time you have to wait depends on the speed of your SD card. Since the omega does not have a battery backed SRAM (and therefore doesn't need a battery to save) it has to write the save to the SD card imidiatly after saving. But this write operation takes a few seconds. On my class 10 card I usually just count to 3 in my head.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: MasterBuller on May 23, 2018, 08:31 PM
I bought an omega recently, on the first day of use it worked perfectly, on the second day, as i turn on the console, 70% of the time would appear the message "bootloader not found", so i had to turn off the console, remove the cartridge, and insert it again, until it worked. on the third day it was dead, only this message would appear, I had to return to the seller and ask for my money back, the build quality does not seem to be so great with this cartridge.  >:( >:(
Seems that the EZO isn't that superior to the EDGBA after all
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: dvd2vcd on May 23, 2018, 09:41 PM
can soneone test EZO on gamecube GB player?  ;D
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Shadow666 on May 24, 2018, 03:11 AM
can soneone test EZO on gamecube GB player?  ;D

it works
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on July 14, 2019, 09:31 AM
Well I just got an Omega on a whim because they are so cheap now,  and I have to say I am very surprised at how much I like it!
It may actually replace my X5, which was bought to replace my EZflash IV. Lol
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on July 15, 2019, 02:59 AM
Have the worked the bugs out of it? How well does it save?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on July 15, 2019, 01:14 PM
I haven't had any issues at all yet.
So far so good!
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on July 15, 2019, 06:38 PM
Have the worked the bugs out of it? How well does it save?
The saving hasn't changed.
In an effort to prevent issues like this (http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=8980.0) they made a choice and designed the card to save directly to the sd card.
While that's a neat foresight, it's awkward. You have to know to wait a few seconds after saving until the save has been written to the sd card.

Other than that minor quirk, it works great, as it always has.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on July 16, 2019, 02:57 AM
Ah, it's probably because I'm not playing on a handheld that I haven't had that save issue.
It takes me a while to get my ass up and switch off. Lol

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/gummybear_gb/Mobile%20Uploads/20190716_005425.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gummybear_gb/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20190716_005425.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on July 16, 2019, 11:06 PM
Ya, I figure Mega SD will have a similar kind of save feature? I doubt it'll be a problem on a console as I don't expect to have the habit of shutting it off as soon as I'm done playing. ON a portable I might be too quick to shut off.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on July 17, 2019, 02:21 AM
We'll have to wait and see about the Mega SD.
I have pre-ordered it as it looks truly epic.

I just hope it doesn't have a laundry list of issues like the Super SD System 3 did.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on July 18, 2019, 06:48 AM
SD2SNES Pro had a few issues too early launch, but hey updates have been coming out in a timely fashion.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: EmperorOfTigers on August 16, 2019, 02:24 PM
The power consumption is lower on the EverDrive GBA X5 so that's something pretty important to consider. Otherwise they are pretty similar. I bet the EverDrive GBA X5 is probably of better build quality though.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Kobe on August 22, 2019, 09:34 AM
I'm going on a trip and was going to get a Everdrive X5. It would cost me $100 after the discounts I have on Stone Age Gamer. But then I came across this thread, and it seems that for $40 less, I can get the EZ Omega for just $60 and it is a superior product with many more features. My issue is that I had an EZ Flash IV and that thing was a complete piece of trash.

Which should I go with, EZO or the X5?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Shadow666 on August 22, 2019, 11:34 AM
Def X5
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on August 22, 2019, 12:21 PM
Yeah definitely the X5.
Who doesn't love spending more money for less features, right?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 22, 2019, 08:34 PM
Well I ordered one of the EZ Omegas, will test it out. I'm sure save states will be handy...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Kobe on August 22, 2019, 08:41 PM
Yeah definitely the X5.
Who doesn't love spending more money for less features, right?
Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 22, 2019, 09:08 PM
The only real downside I can see with Omega, is not so easy to replace battery (you might need to tape/solder in a new one if it dies, I don't know if that battery is 'rechargeable' or not?). But the battery is only used for real-time clock feature games on the Omega. Whereas on X5 the battery is also used for game saving too.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Localhorst86 on August 22, 2019, 09:56 PM
I'm going on a trip and was going to get a Everdrive X5. It would cost me $100 after the discounts I have on Stone Age Gamer. But then I came across this thread, and it seems that for $40 less, I can get the EZ Omega for just $60 and it is a superior product with many more features. My issue is that I had an EZ Flash IV and that thing was a complete piece of trash.

Which should I go with, EZO or the X5?

Seeing as you already had an EZFlash product (the IV), which part of it bothered you exactly? It might help us determine which would be the better choice for you.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Kobe on August 23, 2019, 04:35 AM
Well, the EZ Flash was simply too complicated for me to use. I like to use my Flash Carts mainly to run ROM hacks, and the EZ Flash wasn't able to run any of them. It wasn't even able to run some basic ROMs like Pokemon, which needed to be edited with a Hex editor and all this other crap done with it... The load times were also quite long. I didn't like the interface that much.

All in all, a pretty lousy product that I definitely regret getting. I just want a GBA flash cart that I can put my entire GBA Romset on, including hacks and translations, and have them run perfectly (although I understand the limitations with games like Wario Ware Twisted and Boktai). I also don't want to have to do any additional modifcation or hacking to allow the ROMs to run properly.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: FeverDrive on August 24, 2019, 12:10 AM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 24, 2019, 12:19 AM
New GBA everdrive refresh? Does it come with new features? Or just X5 with a new smaller form factor?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: lee4 on August 24, 2019, 06:46 AM
source of that picture
https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/1143145155622572032
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on August 24, 2019, 01:07 PM
Looks nice, but if it's just a shrunken X5 then I won't be bothering.
Krikzz doesn't actually answer the features question.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 24, 2019, 03:55 PM
SOmeone there called it an x7... But unless it actually adds new features it doesn't disserve to be called x7... Just a new 'revision' of old...

Even stuff like SD2SNES and SD2SNES Pro has undergone 'larger' and 'smaller form' factors. For example some that fit into a north american style cart case, and others that only fit in European/Super famicom style cart cases.

It honeslty would make much more sense to just convert all future GBA into this smaller form factor, unless there is a need to 'add' extra features, and larger space is needed (motion, rumble, and/or solar features).

Also by looking at the board, it just looks to be a "ED GBA 'rev' P1, showing it to be in the same line as previous ED GBA. P1 means 'prototype'?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Shadow666 on August 25, 2019, 04:04 AM
"Someone there called it an x7" yea so if "someone" called it an x9 makes it so that is a big fat no just some user not apart the team
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 25, 2019, 05:35 AM
That's my point, it's stupid of people to jump conclusion that this is an "x7" without an 'x7' being announced.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: FeverDrive on August 25, 2019, 07:31 AM
unless there is a need to 'add' extra features, and larger space is needed (motion, rumble, and/or solar features).
(https://i.imgur.com/ckxWEDI.png)

 ???

(https://i.imgur.com/hSoXeGv.png)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 25, 2019, 08:01 AM
I just don't see the point of selling an X5 and X7 that both share essentially the same features, but only changes the size of the form factor.

I think it would make best sense to at least phase out the oversize model, make both use the same 'small form factor' but just add premium features like at least "save states" and 'cheat system' onto x7. Those appear to be at least the standard add-ons to the GB X7, and Mega Everdrive X7 for example.

I don't see why X7 should 'cost more' if all it does is change form factor, and doesn't add anything new to flashcart. Presumably there would be no reason to have an x5, if both were exactly the same, other than 'form factors'. Small form factor for all (including a cheaper 'x3' (no rtc?, no real-time battery save? (see GBX3)), would probably make the most sense.

However, until I see a good 'x7' and see what features it has. I'm fine with my X5, and I've bought Omega to test out. I have more than one GBA or DS option, so I can also take advantage of multiple Flash carts such as for using for game linking between consoles or Gamecube, so I still feel like its an investment.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Kobe on August 25, 2019, 09:37 AM
Coming soon :o

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.
I decided to just go ahead and get the X5, since they had free shipping on SAG that was ending on Friday, plus they had another $8 coupon and I had a few more points saved up for additinal discounts.

The reason I still paid twice as much for an X5 over the EZO was from reading reviews of the EZO. Seems that on paper it is the superior product, but long term reliability is an issue, as is the build quality. A lot of people were quite unhappy with losing their saves as well. I haven't really had any negative experiences with the Everdrive line, but have had a bad experience with the EZIV so that was my main decision.

I just hope I didn't screw myself over if an X7 is coming out in the near future.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 25, 2019, 10:49 PM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 25, 2019, 11:23 PM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.

It's defnitely smaller (see attachment)... The difference is that chips have been moved to both front and back of the card. In attachement i've put the new model over the "X5" in the same picture. Its obvious size comparison photo, comparing new model to the X5.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 25, 2019, 11:27 PM
If you look around you can find the Omega for $20-$30 including shipping. I don't expect it to be anywhere the build quality of the $100-$120 X5.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 25, 2019, 11:59 PM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.

It's defnitely smaller (see attachment)... The difference is that chips have been moved to both front and back of the card. In attachement i've put the new model over the "X5" in the same picture. Its obvious size comparison photo, comparing new model to the X5.

But it wasn't the circuit board I am talking about. It was the top part, the mostly known as Yoshi Topsy-Turvy stylized shell which had that top area that a lot didn't like as it poked out the bottom when used on GBA SP's. Maybe I am seeing things wrong and that circuit board wont have the Yoshi styled shell and will be a standard GBA cart size?
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 26, 2019, 03:01 AM
The X5 has a Boktai style case, which is about the same size as Yoshi Topsy Turvy Case, or Drill Dozer case. You can see that case on the lower board because that is an x5 being compared to two top images, which are the front and back of the new EDGBA model.

The new board 1/3 less than the original X5 as we can see if you put the board on top of the older board... Which means most of the top shell (which you can see in X5) sticks out above the new board. So a new shell will have to be made for this new board, and it will be much closer to fitting snug on a standard GBA.

For better comparison it would be helpful to look at an actual GBA cartridge board (here is a fake vs real cart comparison) image:

(http://i.imgur.com/YaQDRGv.jpg)

As you can see the general board shape on the new board (upper boards being compared next to the x5) is about the same shape and size as an actual standard GBA cartridge board, even has that little U shaped indentation in the middle where the screw goes.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 26, 2019, 04:10 AM
Oh I'm seeing it now. The circuit board chips have all been lowered down as opposed to the wider sized X5 had them on that Topsy-Turvy type part. I guess it's anyone's guess if the cart will be GBA sized and not Yoshi styled this time.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on August 26, 2019, 06:06 AM
If you look around you can find the Omega for $20-$30 including shipping. I don't expect it to be anywhere the build quality of the $100-$120 X5.

The difference is that the Omega is machine assembled and everdrives are human assembled.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on August 26, 2019, 06:09 AM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.

Every post you make you have to mention SNESadvance. Lol
It's never going to be any good. The GBA doesn't have the power, the resolution or the buttons.
Nobody cares about it, man. It's only ever going to be an experiment, it will never be usable.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 26, 2019, 06:38 AM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.

Every post you make you have to mention SNESadvance. Lol
It's never going to be any good. The GBA doesn't have the power, the resolution or the buttons.
Nobody cares about it, man. It's only ever going to be an experiment, it will never be usable.

Yeah... no one will care about it as it needed time and effort to work...

Also guess these 4 imgur links really don't show progress do they?

https://imgur.com/a/lpxsOam

https://imgur.com/a/EFVLq5l

https://imgur.com/a/KW8jkJP

https://imgur.com/a/j3vH4Jb

The first image is the premade one the other is the correction
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on August 26, 2019, 11:55 AM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.

Every post you make you have to mention SNESadvance. Lol
It's never going to be any good. The GBA doesn't have the power, the resolution or the buttons.
Nobody cares about it, man. It's only ever going to be an experiment, it will never be usable.

Yeah... no one will care about it as it needed time and effort to work...

Also guess these 4 imgur links really don't show progress do they?

https://imgur.com/a/lpxsOam

https://imgur.com/a/EFVLq5l

https://imgur.com/a/KW8jkJP

https://imgur.com/a/j3vH4Jb

The first image is the premade one the other is the correction

A bunch of screen shots don't change the 6fps, no sound, cut off screen and physical lack of 2 buttons.
It.
Will.
Not.
Work.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Marteicos on August 26, 2019, 01:51 PM
Even the Nintendo DS lacks the power to Run Snes prolerly, you were needed to change background layers manually.

Don't take us wrong, it is still impressive to see it trying to run them but from a practical point of view it don't work.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 26, 2019, 02:42 PM
Coming soon :o

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D91EY3QXsAAdmpt?format=jpg&name=small)

Yeah, I understand this is a Krikzz forum, but not sure why people are recommending the X5 so vehemently when it seems the only benefit it has over the EZO is better battery life (I'll be using my DS and GBASP for this so I can always recharge the batteries before fully drained) and better build quality. Plus it will cost $40-50 more. Can someone who owns both chime in? I want to order soon as I'll be leaving on a relatively long trip and my only form of gaming will probably be with this flash cart.
Well,  the EZFLash Omega clocks drifts over time considerably by several minutes. Also if the EZOmega malfunctions after 6 months can you get an almost free replacement/fix from your chinese seller? I guess not.

Looks awfully like the X5, I don't know how it seems to be smaller as it still has the huge top area for the extra stuff. I think a huge selling point would be if someone managed to advance the SNESAdvance support feature. I know the X5 had native for Game Gear, NES and Master System but as from what I managed to re-create to make SNES games actually work better on a GBA this is a must and would be vastly superior as a selling point.

Every post you make you have to mention SNESadvance. Lol
It's never going to be any good. The GBA doesn't have the power, the resolution or the buttons.
Nobody cares about it, man. It's only ever going to be an experiment, it will never be usable.

Yeah... no one will care about it as it needed time and effort to work...

Also guess these 4 imgur links really don't show progress do they?

https://imgur.com/a/lpxsOam

https://imgur.com/a/EFVLq5l

https://imgur.com/a/KW8jkJP

https://imgur.com/a/j3vH4Jb

The first image is the premade one the other is the correction

A bunch of screen shots don't change the 6fps, no sound, cut off screen and physical lack of 2 buttons.
It.
Will.
Not.
Work.

What if I could revive how the old devs managed to make those speed hacks, what if someone could make a GBA variant of the SNES sound chip kind of like how the PCEAdvance had that mixer feature that used GBA audio to compensate for the lack of decent sound emulation, what if I could make it so that every game could use the same style as how Nintendo did those ports for the SNES to GBA games having the camera follow the sprite instead of those badly decided premade following games that make the screen go up everytime somone jumps, and as for the lack of buttons they were already assigned to be set to have multiple ones for example to play a multi button game like Castlevania IV it is possible to set the ingame buttons to be these...

Y = B
B = A
X = L
A = R
L = L
R = R
Start = Start
Select = Select

Accessed by pressing A, B, Start and Select at the same time and mostly useful for Super Castlevania IV

Though to back up my words I once even did this - https://www.sendspace.com/file/f9m0dq

So yeah if you can manage to play the above on your X5 there is huge potential, I wouldn't sell the idea short as of yet.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 26, 2019, 02:59 PM
Someone got Wolfenstien 3D to work on Gameboy color...

https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/19/wolfenstein-3d-ported-to-game-boy-color-on-turbocharged-cart/

But it actually took putting a seperate CPU on the custom cartridge they made.

Technically if you did something like a Super Gameboy where the entire gameboy system is put into a cartridge, you might get it to 'work' partially.  Sure if you had a large enough and fast enough FPGA on a flashcart, and that flashcart FPGA could 'be a SNES' hardware/cpu/graphics processing, and just pass the video and sound through the speaker, and screen, then it might be possible to 'see' the game played on a GBA.

However, that woudl still leave the problem of 'not enough buttons'.... THere are a handful of SNES games that don't utilize all the buttons anyways, so those would probably be able to be played on the system if buttons are mapped properly. But most of the  best games utilize all the buttons, and there simply aren't enough on the system. One way to possibly get around that is do 'combo button' pushes, but that could cause problems itself like being overly complicated, and having actions you don't want to do happen before before you can pull of a combo.

Also dealing with an FPGA and other hardware that could handle this? Probably extremely expensive... at least $200... the other issue is it would have to be essentially an extremely shrunken down Mister or Super NT basically, and that might not be feasible on a GBA size cart, even if you made a special cart that stuck out as much as needed (for example something closer to the Warioware Twisted cart, or larger)...
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: James Cree on August 26, 2019, 04:01 PM
Someone got Wolfenstien 3D to work on Gameboy color...

https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/19/wolfenstein-3d-ported-to-game-boy-color-on-turbocharged-cart/

But it actually took putting a seperate CPU on the custom cartridge they made.

Technically if you did something like a Super Gameboy where the entire gameboy system is put into a cartridge, you might get it to 'work' partially.  Sure if you had a large enough and fast enough FPGA on a flashcart, and that flashcart FPGA could 'be a SNES' hardware/cpu/graphics processing, and just pass the video and sound through the speaker, and screen, then it might be possible to 'see' the game played on a GBA.

However, that woudl still leave the problem of 'not enough buttons'.... THere are a handful of SNES games that don't utilize all the buttons anyways, so those would probably be able to be played on the system if buttons are mapped properly. But most of the  best games utilize all the buttons, and there simply aren't enough on the system. One way to possibly get around that is do 'combo button' pushes, but that could cause problems itself like being overly complicated, and having actions you don't want to do happen before before you can pull of a combo.

Also dealing with an FPGA and other hardware that could handle this? Probably extremely expensive... at least $200... the other issue is it would have to be essentially an extremely shrunken down Mister or Super NT basically, and that might not be feasible on a GBA size cart, even if you made a special cart that stuck out as much as needed (for example something closer to the Warioware Twisted cart, or larger)...

But at that point you are no longer using the actual original hardware.
You could make a cart that runs PC games and just passes video and sound down to the GBA, but I wouldn't be interested in that shit :-)
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: bola on August 26, 2019, 04:52 PM
Well they put a segacd in a FPGA on a cart and people lapped it up

if the FPGA in the cartridge has room in it for other cores.. have at it I say. Probably the SNES is a bit ambitious though.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 26, 2019, 08:41 PM
Someone got Wolfenstien 3D to work on Gameboy color...

https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/19/wolfenstein-3d-ported-to-game-boy-color-on-turbocharged-cart/

But it actually took putting a seperate CPU on the custom cartridge they made.

Technically if you did something like a Super Gameboy where the entire gameboy system is put into a cartridge, you might get it to 'work' partially.  Sure if you had a large enough and fast enough FPGA on a flashcart, and that flashcart FPGA could 'be a SNES' hardware/cpu/graphics processing, and just pass the video and sound through the speaker, and screen, then it might be possible to 'see' the game played on a GBA.

However, that woudl still leave the problem of 'not enough buttons'.... THere are a handful of SNES games that don't utilize all the buttons anyways, so those would probably be able to be played on the system if buttons are mapped properly. But most of the  best games utilize all the buttons, and there simply aren't enough on the system. One way to possibly get around that is do 'combo button' pushes, but that could cause problems itself like being overly complicated, and having actions you don't want to do happen before before you can pull of a combo.

Also dealing with an FPGA and other hardware that could handle this? Probably extremely expensive... at least $200... the other issue is it would have to be essentially an extremely shrunken down Mister or Super NT basically, and that might not be feasible on a GBA size cart, even if you made a special cart that stuck out as much as needed (for example something closer to the Warioware Twisted cart, or larger)...

But at that point you are no longer using the actual original hardware.
You could make a cart that runs PC games and just passes video and sound down to the GBA, but I wouldn't be interested in that shit :-)

Yes that's more or less what things like Super Gameboy and Gameboy Player are... just alternate hardware put into a cartridge or add-on to 'pass through' a different hardware. There is an attachment you can get to run Sega games on a Super Nintendo for example. Same sort of thing, although that one requires a seperate sound cable for sound IIRC. I'm not sure if that device uses emulation or FPGA though (but is some kind of clone). THere is also that Wideboy 64 for N64 that allows people to play GB games on N64.

Even flashcarts are using 'FPGA" so are technically very different from the original hardware they were running on, they are only 'replicating' the original hardware. But that's different use of FPGA than using FPGA to run a competitors hardware, or even earlier generation hardware.

On some level 'custom chips' SNES used were a similar method, in that they used 'new hardware' (non stock hardware) in order to get new features to work on the system. Be it more like additional CPUs or video or sound features. FPGA can be seen as the new 'custom chip'... MSU-1 is another new 'custom chip' more or less (allowing CD sound and video streams in games).


As for PC on GBA... there a few PC to GBA emulation programs out there... Such as GBAGI... Probably not enough power or memory to do something like full ScummVM though...

https://www.zophar.net/consoles/gameboy/agi.html
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 26, 2019, 09:02 PM
But at that point you are no longer using the actual original hardware.
You could make a cart that runs PC games and just passes video and sound down to the GBA, but I wouldn't be interested in that shit :-)

That's my exact response when someone says that the processor of running Super Nintendo Games was so worst off on GBA they would likely would be more used to playing it on a Raspberry Pi or a Linux processor though of course we have always lived in a world where accuracy is a thing and due to the fact it was never finished due to the Nintendo DS coming out there no further progress to fix every game to run on a GBA.

It also didn't help with the forsaken ports that Nintendo brought out which would bleach out the colors, scale into the screen way to much and overall give the games a really bad audio chip, as of what I have seen of them running on a AGS-101 screen there was huge potential to see how capable a GBA could run there games. It only needed certain values altered and I did a lot of research on it elsewhere.
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 26, 2019, 09:08 PM
Of course with romhacking its possible to at least restore the color, but possibly improve the 'sound chip' quality as well. Use less compressed sound, since there is plenty of extra space to deal with (on a flashcart).
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Galron on August 26, 2019, 09:33 PM
Then there is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar9WRwCiSr0
Title: Re: New EZ Omega is better than X5?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 26, 2019, 09:38 PM
Then there is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar9WRwCiSr0

Seeing that reminds me how mind blowing it was for those old NES to SNES games that were made many years ago which kind of resembled a vintage trainer complete with a menu and had either a replaced sound track or no sound track at all, so seeing NES games like Star Force, Burger Time and some others running on a real hardware SNES was mind-blowing back in the day!

And if I remember correctly they were made by Anthrox which even all those years back it goes without saying NES games could have worked on a SNES... just look up the game "BurgerTime (A&S NES Hack)" for example and try it. Am not sure if it exists on later packs but as I run an older one it clearly exists in the Hacks folder of the Super Famicom/Super Nintendo pack by Smoke Monster dated back in the 2010's but it should exist in later sets too.