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General => EverDrive GBA => Topic started by: Mad Hatter on August 27, 2019, 05:16 PM

Title: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Mad Hatter on August 27, 2019, 05:16 PM
There was a lot of discussion in the EZ Flash Omega thread, which I am not sure why. I thought it would be better for this to get it's own topic.

I agree that it shouldn't be called an "x7", because that implies that there are new features and not just a shrunken cart. But let's not get into a meaningless debate. Krikzz is referring it as the x7 as well, so let's just leave it at that.

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Source: https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/1143145155622572032

Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Mad Hatter on August 27, 2019, 05:19 PM
I always held off purchasing the x5.  That cartridge sticking out would irk me.  I felt it was inevitable that an x7 would be released in a standard cart size.

I still have an EZ Flash IV that plays standard GBA games just fine. I'm actually still on the fence. I don't do rom hacking, homebrew, emulation. And I have all the RTC Pokemon games. EZ Flash IV no longer needing an outside patching software was a huge gain as well. So that is why I am still ok with an EZ Flash IV atm. But I love Krikzz's products. Maybe once my EZ Flash IV finally craps out, I will buy an GBA x7.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Richardragon87 on August 27, 2019, 06:02 PM
I grew up and adapted to love the Super Card SD before the X5 was first made. It was a much more compact smaller sized cart kind of like how a GBA cartridge looks like and best of all it didn't stick out the bottom while the other usually got knocked around as it poked under the area so my hands always knocked it usually when in the heat of gaming of sweat.

The only factor I suppose the X5 had was the usage of various embedded emulators it could run, GG, SMS and NES to name a few.

The only downside is it had no support for PC Engine games or Turbografx-16 for that matter... only premade sets can play those ones. I did hear a lot of it getting a dead battery so likely that issue needs to be resolved first and foremost.

But if it's true it will be the same size as a GBA cart that is a step forward over the Yoshi Topsy-Turvy sized cart the X5 used.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on August 27, 2019, 08:24 PM
I'm pretty sure both x5 and x7 will share this new redesign but with different set of features. Ther emight even be room for an 'x3' that cuts out some of the features like the 'RTC' to save money.

It wouldn't make sense to make two different models with same feature set and charge more for the 'smaller one' when the parts should be about the same price for both... It's much easier to just build with one design in mind as well, rather than creating confusing two models that 'do the same thing'.  Say for example following ED-GB line, X5 costing $90-100, and x7 costing $120-130.... If they do the same thing, instead of selling both he should only sell the new one to avoid confusion...

Infact, if they are the same things (except maybe a upgraded FPGA), maybe going the route of "N8 Pro" or the "SD2SNES Pro" would make for a better naming convention... Even SD2SNES Pro went through two revisions one that was full size cart (like Famicom) size, and the others that were smaller and could fit in a SNES style case.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Mad Hatter on August 27, 2019, 10:13 PM
eh. It doesn't really matter at this point. Krikzz is referring it as the "x7". So for now, I guess it's the project name at least. It could change, it could not.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: James Cree on August 27, 2019, 10:38 PM
It would be great if Krikzz still read his own forums sometimes.
That way he could comment and clear up the confusion.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Mad Hatter on August 27, 2019, 11:51 PM
It would be great if Krikzz still read his own forums sometimes.
That way he could comment and clear up the confusion.

eh, I know some might say I am being fanboy. But 99.9% of the questions are answered on here or his Twitter. Yea, you have to go digging around, but it's not that big a deal.

It'd be hard to go through every single question, especially when people are asking about future projects that even Krikzz is probably unsure of. 

For this, it just seems like people just want more in regards to the x7. If you look at his Twitter, it's pretty straight forward. The x7 is basically the same GBA Everdrive but in a standard cart size.

Honestly, what realistic features could he add?

I would like a GB/GBC & GBA cart in one. But that's being unrealistic.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on August 27, 2019, 11:59 PM
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"Honestly, what realistic features could he add?"

What most of his x7 lines have (Mega ED X7, and ED-GB x7)... "Save states", and built in "cheat options". THat's basic, same stuff that competion includes at least... It's what what the EDGB X7 includes beyond cheaper x3 and x5 (although with EDGB RTC is also one of its main selling features, something X5 already has).

He does need to add an improved RTC method, as current method can only track one game at a time. I think EDGBx7 handles multiple RTC games in a better manner.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: nuu on August 28, 2019, 07:11 PM
And GBA-DS linkage support. Krikzz said he "can't see any sense for NOR flash" which sounds like he didn't understand the question.

I don't know if it has to be NOR flash but as long as it's possible for the Everdrive to behave like real GBA cartridges do with a rom of the user's choosing, I would be happy.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on August 28, 2019, 08:54 PM
And GBA-DS linkage support. Krikzz said he "can't see any sense for NOR flash" which sounds like he didn't understand the question.

I don't know if it has to be NOR flash but as long as it's possible for the Everdrive to behave like real GBA cartridges do with a rom of the user's choosing, I would be happy.

I think it needs to be able to hold a single game into memory somehow. Non volatile for the GBA linkage to work. NOR or otherwise. Then offering a mode in which the flashcart can directly load into that that rom. So that from a DS games perspective it reads header data from that rom, and not the flashcart itself.

If he could get saves working correctly for transfers in Pokemon, and other problematic 'data transfer' games, he'd have one of the best flashcarts out there.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: nuu on August 28, 2019, 11:21 PM
Yes that's the one big thing that's still missing.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Shadow666 on August 29, 2019, 03:02 AM
noone said that was an "X7"
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: lee4 on August 29, 2019, 02:25 PM
krikzz did said it 2 years ago
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=6881.msg53494#msg53494
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on August 29, 2019, 03:42 PM
2 years ago, and whatever his plans are now are two different things. At this point there could very well be a new revision of X5 as wel as a new release of the X7, but in the new form factor.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: bola on October 17, 2019, 11:04 PM
Lots of carts updated with no new features (e.g. everdrive64 v3 - a low volume product) while this one is not released.

Time doesn't stand still.. analogue pocket might get my money instead.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: lee4 on October 18, 2019, 04:00 PM
as old component hard to get or re-design of pcb
there are always newer models
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: James Cree on October 20, 2019, 05:00 PM
as old component hard to get or re-design of pcb
there are always newer models

But usually those newer models aren't renamed in such a way that it appears they have more features, when they actually don't.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Localhorst86 on October 20, 2019, 05:32 PM
as old component hard to get or re-design of pcb
there are always newer models

But usually those newer models aren't renamed in such a way that it appears they have more features, when they actually don't.
They use new parts and might require different software. Reason enough to give them a new name as to not confuse customers (e.g. "use this file for ED64 before 2019, this file for ED64 after 2019") - a good opportunity to align the name to the current naming scheme.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: lee4 on October 25, 2019, 05:06 PM
Quote from: krikzz
Can't say. Planned hardware features did not fit in existing hardware design, so in near future i will release only x5 mini, in regular gba cart formfactor.
For X7 i should start all from scratch.
source:
https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/1187486779466768384

Quote from: krikzz
X5 mini likely will be released in end of 2019-begin 2020.

For x7 i planned at least isolated rtc and savestates
source:
https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/1187495430856364032
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Shadow666 on October 28, 2019, 02:01 AM
Quote from: krikzz
Can't say. Planned hardware features did not fit in existing hardware design, so in near future i will release only x5 mini, in regular gba cart formfactor.
For X7 i should start all from scratch.
source:
https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/1187486779466768384

Quote from: krikzz
X5 mini likely will be released in end of 2019-begin 2020.

For x7 i planned at least isolated rtc and savestates
source:
https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/1187495430856364032

Like i been saying from the start that it was an X5 redesign now we have word concert from the horses mouth :P
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on November 06, 2019, 09:31 PM
Save states good. A good upgrade.

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Like i been saying from the start that it was an X5 redesign now we have word concert from the horses mouth

Yes, it's the only thing that makes since. Change the form factor and release all future versions in that form factor. Then put the 'extras' features in the x7 with whatever required form factor it needs, and charge more for the extras.

as old component hard to get or re-design of pcb
there are always newer models

But usually those newer models aren't renamed in such a way that it appears they have more features, when they actually don't.
They use new parts and might require different software. Reason enough to give them a new name as to not confuse customers (e.g. "use this file for ED64 before 2019, this file for ED64 after 2019") - a good opportunity to align the name to the current naming scheme.

Also previously if there isn't a major upgrade, but simply part replacements/board revisions, I think he uses 'Pro' to distinguish it from earlier versions.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: mofoofinvention on February 01, 2020, 12:23 AM
it looks like this is actually coming out
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Richardragon87 on February 01, 2020, 12:26 AM
it looks like this is actually coming out

And it's going to be so awesome taking me way back to the Super Card SD games. To finally have a GBA Everdrive that wont get knocked with my pinkie fingers xDD

But joking aside I hope this version can incorporate PC Engine support, I mean to overcome the Super Card SD it would be awesome if it could just load roms on the go... I don't need to say SNES as it already runs them.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Shadow666 on May 22, 2020, 07:20 AM
YO THE "X7" IS HERE!!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs (https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs)
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Richardragon87 on May 22, 2020, 08:20 AM
YO THE "X7" IS HERE!!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs (https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs)

GREAT NEWS!!! If Retrotowers get wind of them I'll likely get one for my birthday in a months time, kind of wish the million dollar question was it would now be able to hold as micro SD card reader which could be inserted into it. The mini ones are so fragile when you would have to push them up and down, I know of a past drive that could do that and if the Mini X5 was able to. I may have likely been able to speed up my SNESAdvance revival project ^^
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on June 11, 2020, 06:23 AM
YO THE "X7" IS HERE!!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs (https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs)

That link just goes to new version of the X5 "mini". I don't see any information on an x7 yet....

This article said no plans for "x7" yet..

https://everdrive.me/cartridges/everdrive-gba-x5-mini.html?fbclid=IwAR3pNgQERzUqY456AoMAgr5bxtGimjbAKhqplGcP6jrUEq905B5PnFxbH1Q

But that was in January, so I don't know if there has been anctual plan for the x7, since then.
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Shadow666 on June 11, 2020, 06:36 AM
YO THE "X7" IS HERE!!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs (https://tinyurl.com/y73vcxfs)

That link just goes to new version of the X5 "mini". I don't see any information on an x7 yet....

This article said no plans for "x7" yet..

https://everdrive.me/cartridges/everdrive-gba-x5-mini.html?fbclid=IwAR3pNgQERzUqY456AoMAgr5bxtGimjbAKhqplGcP6jrUEq905B5PnFxbH1Q

But that was in January, so I don't know if there has been anctual plan for the x7, since then.

yes it was a joke for the idiots on this tread calling it an X7 when krikzz didnt even call it that
Title: Re: GBA "x7" (Standard Size) to be released soon?
Post by: Galron on June 14, 2020, 09:49 AM
Ha, thanks for clearing that up. Cracks me up now that you explained it!

I'll have to keep my eye open to see if an X7 actually is released in the future, but I have no reason to upgrade... THe original X5 is great as it is! It does what I need done (short of save states).