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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #465 on: April 20, 2018, 03:30 AM »
A SD2SNES without MSU-1 support is a total blatant waste of cash imho.  Those whom scoff people for wanting a "genuine" one, come on.  KRIKzz makes a quality product, why cheap out and get something inferior which lacks features, let alone quality components?  I know KRIKzz didn't invent the SD2SNES but still, the argument about buying a sub-par Chinese clone over a good quality flash cart is kinda ignorant in my opinion.

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #466 on: April 20, 2018, 04:04 AM »
when i try use sd2snes
System Infomation
to do sd speed test with any sd2snes gsu version glitches out

anyone have same problem i do or just me ?
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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #467 on: April 20, 2018, 04:20 AM »
The issue with the Chinese knock-offs is that while the component on the PCB might SAY it is a certain value or rating, or even manufacturer, they very rarely are.  The sellers are able to sell the boards cheaply because instead of the higher quality, QC'd and validated parts from a reputable manufacturer that cost more money, they use counterfeit parts or parts from lower quality manufacturers.  Those parts are super cheap.

The differences can also be in the way the part functions.  The system checks will generally check to make sure the part is functioning at all, but won't check to see how they are functioning.  If program code is expecting something at Time X, but the cheap Chinese knock-off part is slower and provides it at Time Y, it can cause an error or bug that a higher quality component made board would not.

It's these types of errors which can be infuriating to those developing on a system, and also why there is no support for those knock-offs on these boards.  The guys working on these things don't want to spend their time trying to fix bugs which only exist on the counterfeit boards.
I've been on this forum enough to know that 9 times out of 10 when someone has an issue with their SD2SNES it's in regards to the SD card they're using. Either the SD card is legit broken or formatted improperly. I agree that krikzz shouldn't spend time supporting non krikzz products. I'd like to somehow get a set of data on who has chinese sd2snes boards who don't have any problems and ones who have legit hardware failures.
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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #468 on: April 20, 2018, 04:33 AM »
The issue with the Chinese knock-offs is that while the component on the PCB might SAY it is a certain value or rating, or even manufacturer, they very rarely are.  The sellers are able to sell the boards cheaply because instead of the higher quality, QC'd and validated parts from a reputable manufacturer that cost more money, they use counterfeit parts or parts from lower quality manufacturers.  Those parts are super cheap.

The differences can also be in the way the part functions.  The system checks will generally check to make sure the part is functioning at all, but won't check to see how they are functioning.  If program code is expecting something at Time X, but the cheap Chinese knock-off part is slower and provides it at Time Y, it can cause an error or bug that a higher quality component made board would not.

It's these types of errors which can be infuriating to those developing on a system, and also why there is no support for those knock-offs on these boards.  The guys working on these things don't want to spend their time trying to fix bugs which only exist on the counterfeit boards.
Exactly this. Many of us have learned our lesson buying components on Aliexpress and eBay. You'll order an IC or capacitor that claims to be one thing, but is something else completely. A good percentage of chips simply don't work or produce errors. I can't imagine an entire device made from that trash. Anyone doing electronic work quickly migrates to legit sources like Digikey or Mouser to buy parts, since it's the only way to make sure you're getting what you ordered.

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #469 on: April 20, 2018, 05:30 AM »
The issue with the Chinese knock-offs is that while the component on the PCB might SAY it is a certain value or rating, or even manufacturer, they very rarely are.  The sellers are able to sell the boards cheaply because instead of the higher quality, QC'd and validated parts from a reputable manufacturer that cost more money, they use counterfeit parts or parts from lower quality manufacturers.  Those parts are super cheap.

The differences can also be in the way the part functions.  The system checks will generally check to make sure the part is functioning at all, but won't check to see how they are functioning.  If program code is expecting something at Time X, but the cheap Chinese knock-off part is slower and provides it at Time Y, it can cause an error or bug that a higher quality component made board would not.

It's these types of errors which can be infuriating to those developing on a system, and also why there is no support for those knock-offs on these boards.  The guys working on these things don't want to spend their time trying to fix bugs which only exist on the counterfeit boards.
tons of bull***t  :)
1. I saw peoples here and on discord with their original sd2snes having glitches with gsu v6 as well of me and others that have a chinese one, so what you say is completely no sense for sd2snes. (problem solved with the redguy fix and on v7)
2. Do you really call something that cost 125 euros "CHEAP"? LOL!
3. Do you really think sd2snes making cost is 200$? is much much less
4. If chinese sd2snes was low quality as you said i will have at least 1 error or problems...never appened, all perfect


also from the reviews: - SD slot is not spring loaded, so it's a pain to remove it
my chinese one have the spring  :)
« Last Edit: April 20, 2018, 05:43 AM by Arnold101 »

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #470 on: April 20, 2018, 05:58 AM »
also from the reviews: - SD slot is not spring loaded, so it's a pain to remove it
my chinese one have the spring  :)
My Krikzz-made SD2SNES has a SD card slot that's spring loaded actually.

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #471 on: April 20, 2018, 06:12 AM »
also from the reviews: - SD slot is not spring loaded, so it's a pain to remove it
my chinese one have the spring  :)
My Krikzz-made SD2SNES has a SD card slot that's spring loaded actually.
btw i have the ed64v2 original and not have the spring and i hate it

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #472 on: April 20, 2018, 07:21 AM »
Hey, if you are happy with your counterfeit product, then great!  Enjoy it.  But don't expect any help from the creator of the legitimate device when the cheap components begin to fail.

The issue with the Chinese knock-offs is that while the component on the PCB might SAY it is a certain value or rating, or even manufacturer, they very rarely are.  The sellers are able to sell the boards cheaply because instead of the higher quality, QC'd and validated parts from a reputable manufacturer that cost more money, they use counterfeit parts or parts from lower quality manufacturers.  Those parts are super cheap.

The differences can also be in the way the part functions.  The system checks will generally check to make sure the part is functioning at all, but won't check to see how they are functioning.  If program code is expecting something at Time X, but the cheap Chinese knock-off part is slower and provides it at Time Y, it can cause an error or bug that a higher quality component made board would not.

It's these types of errors which can be infuriating to those developing on a system, and also why there is no support for those knock-offs on these boards.  The guys working on these things don't want to spend their time trying to fix bugs which only exist on the counterfeit boards.
tons of bull***t  :)
1. I saw peoples here and on discord with their original sd2snes having glitches with gsu v6 as well of me and others that have a chinese one, so what you say is completely no sense for sd2snes. (problem solved with the redguy fix and on v7)
2. Do you really call something that cost 125 euros "CHEAP"? LOL!
3. Do you really think sd2snes making cost is 200$? is much much less
4. If chinese sd2snes was low quality as you said i will have at least 1 error or problems...never appened, all perfect


also from the reviews: - SD slot is not spring loaded, so it's a pain to remove it
my chinese one have the spring  :)

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #473 on: April 20, 2018, 08:34 AM »
I had a discussion with my local electronics dealer, he explained that these cheap parts used on discounted or what we are calling counterfeit items and what we can order from China with free shipping for pennies are usually factory seconds, they may very well be made right next to the same parts that we pay regular price for.

So the guy selling you the cheap knock off stuff said it’s good to go?....

Hey, can I interest you in a really nice bridge?

He wasn't selling me cheap stuff, we were talking aboot why not to buy it, the stuff is seconds from the same factories, it's meant to be thrown out but is sold off on places like Ebay and Aliexpress.

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #474 on: April 20, 2018, 09:30 AM »
also from the reviews: - SD slot is not spring loaded, so it's a pain to remove it
my chinese one have the spring  :)

I got an official sd2snes and it has a spring loaded sd slot. Maybe some of the other Everdrives might not have had it but from what i know i think the sd2snes has always had it.

At the end of the day, if your gonna spend money on something atleast buy an official product. Well worth it. Think about it, you get alot more support and dont have to worry when new updates come around. And if you come across any issues you know that the actual creators got your back. Plus MSU1!

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #475 on: April 20, 2018, 10:37 AM »
also from the reviews: - SD slot is not spring loaded, so it's a pain to remove it
my chinese one have the spring  :)

I got an official sd2snes and it has a spring loaded sd slot. Maybe some of the other Everdrives might not have had it but from what i know i think the sd2snes has always had it.


I think he's saying, he read reviews saying Chinese clones aren't spring loaded but it turned out his Chinese clone was in fact spring loaded. He's not saying krikzz carts aren't spring loaded.

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #476 on: April 20, 2018, 10:57 AM »
3. Do you really think sd2snes making cost is 200$? is much much less
Counter question: Do you want to work for free? If you think the manufacturing cost is all that makes up the price you are beyond naive.
Basically, all quality and cost factors aside:
1. you want to fuck me over (and krikzz): buy Chinese. Can't exactly blame you as far as I am concerned. But don't expect any more support or answered questions.
2. you don't want to fuck us over: buy from krikzz.  :P

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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #477 on: April 20, 2018, 11:20 AM »
This thread is getting off-topic. We should stay on the topic of SuperFX development and not discuss wether you should get a Chinese or OG SD2SNES.
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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #478 on: April 20, 2018, 11:36 AM »
3. Do you really think sd2snes making cost is 200$? is much much less
Counter question: Do you want to work for free? If you think the manufacturing cost is all that makes up the price you are beyond naive.
Basically, all quality and cost factors aside:
1. you want to fuck me over (and krikzz): buy Chinese. Can't exactly blame you as far as I am concerned. But don't expect any more support or answered questions.
2. you don't want to fuck us over: buy from krikzz.  :P

And thats what the problem is today Ikari,people expect everything cheap or even worse:FREE.
Now i don't have a problem to pay 200$ for a device thats giving me so much fun for in the place.
And there are so many games on snes that arent cheap,so why there is a problem for the price,i don't understand that.
There is a super everdrive for people that have enough with that and only can or want afford that,and sd2snes where you can play much more and willing to pay for.
I'm happy with my sd2snes ikari,it works perfekt and get support that's increases the games you can play on.
I say thank you,and btw,super fx works nice on it.
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Re: gsu (superfx) support [work in progress]
« Reply #479 on: April 20, 2018, 12:07 PM »
3. Do you really think sd2snes making cost is 200$? is much much less
Counter question: Do you want to work for free? If you think the manufacturing cost is all that makes up the price you are beyond naive.
Basically, all quality and cost factors aside:
1. you want to fuck me over (and krikzz): buy Chinese. Can't exactly blame you as far as I am concerned. But don't expect any more support or answered questions.
2. you don't want to fuck us over: buy from krikzz.  :P

And thats wat is the problem today Ikari,people expect everything cheap or even worse:FREE.
Now i don't have a problem to pay 200$ for a device thats giving me so much fun for in the place.
And there are so many games on snes that arent cheap,so why there is a problem for the price,i don't understand that.
There is a super everdrive for people that have enough with that and only can or want afford that,and sd2snes where you can play much more and willing to pay for.
I'm happy with my sd2snes ikari,it works perfekt and get support that's increases the games you can play on.
I say thank you,and btw,super fx works nice on it.

i am very happy with my sd2snes rev F bought at krikzz it work perfect and super fx run well

I upgraded mine to rev H,works perfekt.
Its great we have now super fx games on sd2snes.